On 26 October 2010 07:53, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
I would consider those to be informal=yes, were I to use this tag.
As Felix pointed out, that doesn't add anything useful to describe the
current state of the path, only how it may have been formed, the first
picture you posted
2010/10/25 Felix Hartmann extremecar...@gmail.com:
There is no such thing as informal.
maybe you should rename your username from extremecarver to
extremeopinionist ;-)
Of course there are informal ways/paths. Not every informal looking
path is indeed informal, but that doesn't imply that there
2010/10/25 Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net:
I would consider those to be informal=yes, were I to use this tag.
you _are_ to use this tag, go ahead ;-)
cheers,
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2010/10/26 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 26 October 2010 07:53, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
I would consider those to be informal=yes, were I to use this tag.
As Felix pointed out, that doesn't add anything useful to describe the
current state of the path, only how it
On 26 October 2010 20:34, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 26 October 2010 07:53, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
I would consider those to be informal=yes, were I to use this tag.
As Felix pointed out, that doesn't
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote:
I think that 4-way and 3-way stops can be handled unambiguously by
highway=stop. More complex stops should probably be modeled with turn
restrictions.
type=restriction
restriction=stop
roles=from,to,via
But a stop
On 27 October 2010 00:17, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
What's wrong with something like highway:forward=stop or
highway:backward=stop for the node where one must stop?
Editors won't honour that sort of detail, so if the direction of the
way is flipped for what ever reason than the
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
But a stop sign isn't a restriction; it has the main effect of slowing
average speed. If our router is so precise that the seconds added by a
stop sign count, it can easily calculate the nearest intersection to
each
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Adam Schreiber sa...@clemson.edu wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
What's wrong with something like highway:forward=stop or
highway:backward=stop for the node where one must stop?
How does that capture
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 October 2010 00:17, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
What's wrong with something like highway:forward=stop or
highway:backward=stop for the node where one must stop?
Editors won't honour that sort of
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 27 October 2010 00:17, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
What's wrong with something like highway:forward=stop or
The amount of delay varies according to the traffic, particularly in cases
where one cross-street is not required to stop at the intersection. I have
encountered intersections where, at rush hour, you effectively can't make a
left turn from the side street, or go straight across, because the
What about putting stop signs beside the way at their actual position?
This would indicate the direction automatically (dependent if the
traffic is right or left-sided) and is error prone to direction
changes of the way. Any potential router could evaluate those in
preprocessing while building the
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
The amount of delay varies according to the traffic, particularly in cases
where one cross-street is not required to stop at the intersection. I have
encountered intersections where, at rush hour, you effectively can't make a
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
What about putting stop signs beside the way at their actual position?
This would indicate the direction automatically (dependent if
2010/10/26 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:01 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
The amount of delay varies according to the traffic, particularly in cases
where one cross-street is not required to stop at the intersection. I have
encountered intersections where, at rush
On 10/26/2010 05:32 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
you _are_ to use this tag, go ahead ;-)
Thanks, but it’s not that I feel restricted from using this tag. I just
don’t feel the need to tag paths as being informal; highway=path is
quite enough for my purposes.
—Alex Mauer “hawke”
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:46 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
What about putting stop signs beside the way at their actual position?
This would indicate
Am 26.10.2010 16:50, schrieb Anthony:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 October 2010 00:17, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
What's wrong with something
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Peter Wendorff
wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:
Am 26.10.2010 16:50, schrieb Anthony:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 27 October
2010/10/26 sylvain letuffe li...@letuffe.org:
Some people advocate this should be a tagged as
highway=path+via_ferrata_scale=something, I don't.
I agree, that would harm more then help.
But the informal path this thread is about, unless I haven't been able to
understand what it really
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
How would you handle this case? http://www.leevartanian.com/2008/07/02/alto/
It makes more sense to mark where you have to stop, not where the sign
telling you to
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
See attached. Do both streets have a stop sign, or does one street
have two stop signs?
I'd say: bad mapping. Put the signs nearer to the road so it is clear
which road they
Am 26.10.2010 17:50, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
2010/10/26 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
You'd probably need a relation to assign each stop sign to the street.
This seems like a lot of work for something so common.
no, you wouldn't need any relation and would give the work over to the
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
See attached. Do both streets have a stop sign, or does one street
have two stop signs?
I'd say: bad mapping. Put the signs nearer to the road so it is clear
which road
Am 26.10.2010 20:00, schrieb Anthony:
Right, that's where the 99%/1% thing comes into place. I don't think
it's true that 100% of stop signs face opposite the nearest
intersection. So there has to be a tag for those exceptions.
Now, you could say that the tag is only needed for those
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Peter Wendorff
wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:
While I agree completely at avoiding relations, that's a hard task for the
router.
It's extremly much work to take in account data combined with the data you
need only via the coordinates as source.
Node on the
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Peter Wendorff
wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:
Am 26.10.2010 20:00, schrieb Anthony:
Right, that's where the 99%/1% thing comes into place. I don't think
it's true that 100% of stop signs face opposite the nearest
intersection. So there has to be a tag for
Am 26.10.2010 20:35, schrieb Anthony:
Perhaps you are right - but please, can you give me an example?
I cannot imagine why there should be a stop sign without intersection.
I'll try to get you an example, but first you have to precisely define
intersection using words like way, node, highway,
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Peter Wendorff
wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote:
Am 26.10.2010 20:35, schrieb Anthony:
Perhaps you are right - but please, can you give me an example?
I cannot imagine why there should be a stop sign without intersection.
I'll try to get you an example, but
2010/10/26 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/10/26 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
See attached. Do both streets have a stop sign, or does one street
have two stop signs?
I'd say: bad mapping. Put the signs
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:31:40 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I am speaking of narrow (in
all cases below 1 metre, I'd say less then 0.5 m actually, usually
20-30 cm). They have to be not planned, not maintained, ground
surface: they are simply there because people (or
2010/10/26 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net:
The WTO definition is better for mapping purposes. Otherwise I have to
decide if a hotel is used by 'business' guests or 'holiday' guests.
These uses of a hotel do overlap.
IMHO this is an argument against tourism as such: it is not even clear
On 10/25/2010 10:29 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
For example, what would you tag this?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8hq=hnear=Vercelli,+Piedmont,+Italyll=45.314604,8.414012spn=0.001633,0.004128t=hz=19layer=ccbll=45.314594,8.413845panoid=VAMbvxwaZiigA_JUOfHBkwcbp=12,348.5,,0,31.53
Path,
2010/10/26 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
There are two values highway=footway and highway=pedestrian and I do not know
which are the differences between them. The wiki does not contain a decisive
difference mark.
footways are generally smaller. pedestrian indicates a road but
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote:
Basically pedestrian is for things in urban areas, like streets,
footway is for paths in parks and in woods..
Not quite. Sidewalks in urban areas are highway=footway.
Highway=pedestrian is essentially something that could
On Martes 26 Octubre 2010 22:33:35 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/10/26 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
There are two values highway=footway and highway=pedestrian and I do not
know which are the differences between them. The wiki does not contain a
decisive difference
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Noel David Torres Taño
env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
Thanks to both. My problem is this: I have a street in a city, in a pedestrian
zone, but it is small enough to be unsuitable for cars.
I don't think there's a clear line. If it has a name that suggests it
was
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Noel David Torres Taño
env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
Thanks to both. My problem is this: I have a street in a city, in a pedestrian
zone, but it is small enough to be unsuitable for cars.
Near that, I have another one, just in the limits of the urban zone (maybe
On 25/10/2010 09:29, Simone Saviolo wrote:
For example, what would you tag this?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8hq=hnear=Vercelli,+Piedmont,+Italyll=45.314604,8.414012spn=0.001633,0.004128t=hz=19layer=ccbll=45.314594,8.413845panoid=VAMbvxwaZiigA_JUOfHBkwcbp=12,348.5,,0,31.53
highway=path.
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