Re: [Tagging] road accident memorials

2023-06-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2023-06-10 20:57, Greg Troxel wrote: Anne-Karoline Distel writes: I would say that memorial:cause=traffic_accident would leave the options open whether the victim intended to die or not. OK but IMHO traffic_crash is better. 'accident' is an assertion of no blame, and there are messy

Re: [Tagging] drones

2023-02-10 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2023-02-10 11:43, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: What do people think about a key like drone? I'm thinking of heritage sites/ tourist attractions, of course. I noticed on a Welsh heritage site that they had an icon for all the amenities and permissions, and they had one for "Drones not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

2023-01-03 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2023-01-03 12:51, Philip Barnes wrote: Shops selling wool are commonly referred to as wool shops so why not shop=wool? Yarn doesn't seem very intuitive to me as a native English speaker. Nowadays, a lot of yarn is acrylic, or polyester, or cotton, or some other materials, or a mixture.

Re: [Tagging] Strange tags

2019-10-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2019-09-30 12:38, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 02:41, Kevin Kenny > wrote: Given that the lists at this point are arbitrary, That was the conclusion I came to after a more detailed reading of the wikipedia page.  Until a couple of days ago

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-06-18 21:00, Bryan Housel wrote: *Proposal:* I’d like to drop `covered=booth` as a suggested tag, as it’s superfluous.  If the telephone feature has `booth=yes` or `booth=K6` you know it’s a booth.  Then we’re not repurposing the `covered=*` for a thing that it doesn’t normally do in

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-05-25 19:31, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I forgot how many different objects qualified, I now listed  some "It includes for example food trucks that are not permanently staying in one place, products sold from cart, portable table, tent, or by somebody holding products for sale."

Re: [Tagging] Culverts and Fords

2018-02-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-02-28 23:21, Vao Matua wrote: François I don't have an example.  I was trying to think of an example where layer would be needed for a stream/road crossing.  A pipe would probably be a better example. Sorry to cause a distraction. My real question is "Why not allow tunnel=culvert

Re: [Tagging] Additional sub tags for survey mark

2017-11-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2017-11-20 23:47, Warin wrote: Hi, There have been attempts in the past to add sub tags to man_made=survey_point https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurvey_point To me there are 2 'types'. they are quite different; Triangulation (or 'trig point') that are visible over quite

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-27 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2017-09-27 23:45, Kevin Kenny wrote: I think my earlier posting on this subject got lost. The Wiki shows 'shop=agrarian' whose definition seems to fit. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dagrarian (The name stinks, but it's there. I'd call it a 'feed and seed store' or a 'farm

Re: [Tagging] Beautified JSON presets for natural=tree

2017-07-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2017-07-22 13:50, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Removing the name key from the JOSM preset wouldn't stop somebody adding a name tag in the few cases where a tree really was named. Nor would it remove name tags from existing trees. But what's wrong with having the name as an optional tag on the

Re: [Tagging] Power Tower Landuse = ?

2017-07-04 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2017-07-04 14:49, Mark Bradley wrote: In American English most people would call the structure a tower, but according to the convention of OSM using British English, I would defer to the word "pylon." In British English, yes the general public usually call them 'pylons'. But this is not

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2017-03-16 04:13, Tod Fitch wrote: The “direction” tag [1] has different uses that seem disjoint to me. 2. To specify direction (clockwise/counterclockwise) around a roundabout (not sure why this is needed as it should be apparent from local laws or specified with a “oneway=yes”).

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-21 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-10-21 14:07, Greg Troxel wrote: Craig Wallace <craig...@fastmail.fm> writes: I think this is wrong. A nature reserve an area to protect wildlife, not to allow it to be shot. A nature reserve is managed for the purposes of conservation. So if an area is primarily for h

Re: [Tagging] Hunting area tagging

2016-10-21 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-10-20 16:33, Kevin Kenny wrote: Since nobody else has stepped forward to answer this, as far as I can tell, let me take a whack at it: I think that the best tagging for a hunting reserve that the current renderer knows about is 'leisure=nature_reserve". That's how the state wildlife

Re: [Tagging] Abusing name tags on type=route

2016-09-18 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-09-18 16:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 18 set 2016, alle ore 07:11, Michael Tsang > ha scritto: How should we cope with the situation like this use the "note" key Or the "description" key, if it is

Re: [Tagging] Galleries versus art shops

2016-02-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-02-15 09:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2016-02-15 10:36 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr >: So, in my opinion, are the Van Gogh Museum and Rijksmuseum: were it not for the element 'museum' in their names, we would think of these

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pools

2015-12-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-12-15 22:41, Matthijs Melissen wrote: In addition, it seems that the swimming pool tags are used for two different things: the pool itself, and the entire building/area (including showers, cafe, etc.). Would it be useful and possible to resolve this ambiguity? We currently have

Re: [Tagging] improve tagging of traffic_calming

2015-11-20 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-11-20 16:33, Dave Swarthout wrote: No. That change would not be okay. AFAIK the correct tagging scenario is highway=traffic_calming traffic_calming=bump (or chicane, or other types as stated in the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming) This is a hierarchical

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-06 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-11-06 13:44, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Andy Townsend > wrote: Obviously in places where a road can have multiple equivalent references (such as the US) route relations perfect sense (as does figuring out

Re: [Tagging] Unmarked opening hours

2015-10-16 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-10-17 01:59, Dave Swarthout wrote: Agreed. Why would you add a tag when you don't know a value to assign? N In addition, concerning the signed:opening_hours=yes/no, there is no need to assign more tags to describe a lack of information about the first one. The point is, it is useful

Re: [Tagging] post_box:type values, meter in particular

2015-10-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-10-15 20:54, Holger Mappt wrote: Hi, The post_box:type Wiki page [1] was created two months ago and the key was added to the JOSM preset recently [2]. That means that the values show up in Launchpad for translation. The "meter" type in particular is hard to translate as it is not clear

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-06-10 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-06-10 07:44, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's a writeup on a Duck tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3539479319/history I strongly feel that amenity=charging_station is fully entrenched as a

Re: [Tagging] fire extinguisher class

2015-04-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-04-23 18:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: That makes much more sense, and as you say, maps the physical characteristics. The letters seem like specialist knowledge that few people will be

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-04-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2015-04-17 07:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: If you entered Pinnacles Campground Site 12 into your OSM powered GPS, would you not be happy if it took you all the way to Site 12? In practice that would also require: addr:housenumber=12 addr:street=[unnamed service road] They are not

Re: [Tagging] Defining genre for public bookcases

2015-01-07 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-12-27 17:34, Guillaume Pratte wrote: This could give: literature:genre=science-fiction literature:genre=mystery literature:genre=cookbook literature:genre=comedy … What do you think? I think 'literature' is not the best word for this. Yes, literature can refer to any

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common

2014-08-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-08-28 16:01, Pieren wrote: I find a bit harsh that leisure=common has been completely withdrawn from the wiki map features in the middle of the summer. If it's a UK specific tag, then move it to a special UK map features page/table, no ?

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-06-22 10:08, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 5:22 PM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: Better use an own tag like flow_direction=forward/backward/both/none or similar. This way we will cover all three cases mentioned below. Where is the difference between

Re: [Tagging] Gritting routes

2014-03-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-03-23 22:07, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, I have some winter gritting/salting routes that I am trying to work out how best to tag them. I was thinking of creating a route relation, but I may need to add some new roles: * forward:grit implies the gritting truck grits this road whilst

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

2013-10-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-10-17 09:52, Pieren wrote: Could someone explain the difference between tourism=guest_house and tourism=bed_and_breakfast ? Both are suggested here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house but only guest_house is really documented in the wiki. In taginfo, we find

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-08-19 00:24, André Pirard wrote: Hi, There are many wiki articles mentioning the road side and tagging what's on it, e. g.parking. But I couldn't find how to tag a plain road side itself. It is not part of the roadway (chaussée) but it's part of the public highway (voie publique). Often

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-08-19 14:37, Tod Fitch wrote: On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: Sounds like you mean the shoulder. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder It should usually be tagged as an attribute on the highway, not mapped as a separate way or area. Craig +1 Except

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of topographic areas with a name

2013-08-18 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-08-17 16:47, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: Maybe we should try a completely different approach. We could draw a way along the approximate center line of the feature and tag it with name=*, topo_feature=mountain_range|ridge|valley|... A renderer that wants to display the name should draw it

Re: [Tagging] Observations on use of the diet: tag

2013-07-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-06-28 14:36, fly wrote: On 26.06.2013 02:29, Murry McEntire wrote: If tags are added to diet=*, I believe lactose_free is in common use whereas lacto_free is not so much. Also consider that a product made with lactose removed dairy would accurately be lactose_free but not lacto_free.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-06-23 20:54, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: While we're on the subject of building tagging: Prior to major building outline imports, OSM tended to contain mostly important or notable building outlines. People might do a business district, or the largest buildings in town, or the church, or zoo...

Re: [Tagging] bicycle-no on motorways

2013-02-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 09/02/2013 12:54, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 23:25 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: Err, that's what the signs are for... :) There are plenty of places where it is possible to cross between England and Wales where there are no signs. I am less familiar with the Scottish border,

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/11/2012 11:25, Philip Barnes wrote: I think that is very country specific, not something that can be tagged worldwide. In the UK, beyond speed limits, there are no rule differences between urban and rural roads. However you have me curious, how do you see the rules as different? In

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=escape_lane

2012-10-12 Thread Craig Wallace
On 12/10/2012 16:38, José Juan Sánchez del Arco wrote: I have updated an old proposal, relating to highways, escape lanes for trucks and cars alongside motorways to stop them. Please visit the proposal page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/escape_lane I think this is just

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=kennel)

2012-09-13 Thread Craig Wallace
On 13/09/2012 10:13, Andrew Errington wrote: Off the top of my head we have 'stables', 'kennels' and 'cattery'. Each name is very specific. Also, they are not limited to welfare (lost, abandoned or abused animals), there are commercial businesses which look after animals while their owners go

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/08/2012 08:42, Markus Lindholm wrote: Also, no one has offered any other solution to the routing issue. The divider tag has been proposed, but I think it has been demonstrated not to work, as routing decision are made on the node and not on the line. Where has it been demonstrated not to

Re: [Tagging] Update of article highway=mini_roundabout

2012-05-27 Thread Craig Wallace
On 27/05/2012 15:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 13:43 -0400, Anthony wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Martin Vonwaldimagic@gmail.com wrote: I'll just want to let you know, that I reworked the article about mini-roundabouts and want to update it within the next days.

Re: [Tagging] Shop=bag shop=haberdashery in wiki map features page

2012-05-13 Thread Craig Wallace
On 13/05/2012 18:37, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: Since Haberdashery doesn't have it's own wiki page an(d) is quite an complicated word may I ask: Wtf is it? .. And why on earth would we use it (over luggage or bag(s), which are understood by pretty much anyone)? I think you are confusing

Re: [Tagging] gym as an amenity value

2012-03-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 09/03/2012 10:04, Erik Johansson wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 18:16, Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm wrote: The term gym is ambiguous, as it can also mean gymnasium. ie a place at a school for sports, or a place for doing gymnastics etc. I think its best to avoid the term for tagging.

Re: [Tagging] gym as an amenity value

2012-03-08 Thread Craig Wallace
On 08/03/2012 16:54, Clifford Snow wrote: I do not see gym listed as a value for the tag amenity. I would like to see it as a recognized key value for amenity. Taginfo, http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/amenity shows 644 gym, 8 Gym and some forms of health_club. Gym is defined as A

Re: [Tagging] Named gates

2011-08-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 01/08/2011 13:12, Josh Doe wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com mailto:bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote: But there's no reason to change the

Re: [Tagging] highway=path, path=hiking

2011-07-16 Thread Craig Wallace
On 16/07/2011 15:27, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:51 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: highway=path, path=hiking doesn't say any more to me than highway=footway on its own would. The distinction is well constructed versus rough, minimal maintenance.

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is at

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - daycare

2011-04-21 Thread Craig Wallace
On 21/04/2011 16:13, Flaimo wrote: created a proposal for amenity=daycare: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/daycare more information on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daycare day care is a very vague and ambiguous term. I assumed it referred to care of elderly

Re: [Tagging] historic tagging, obelisks

2011-02-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 01/02/2011 12:11, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: To tag obelisks I suggest man_made=obelisk an alternative could be historic=obelisk but some obelisks are actually not old, so historic might not yet be an appropriate tag for them. In combination with historic:civilization and historic:period

Re: [Tagging] historic tagging, obelisks

2011-02-01 Thread Craig Wallace
On 01/02/2011 13:35, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/2/1 Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm: As that Wikipedia article says, its just a particular style/shape of monument or memorial. So I think it would be best tagged as historic=monument or historic=memorial, plus a subtag for obelisk. Maybe

Re: [Tagging] Deprecated features - highway=disused

2010-12-21 Thread Craig Wallace
On 21/12/2010 20:17, Wyo wrote: Craig Wallace wrote: I think using disused=yes is a very bad idea. It will break all of the existing renderers/applications that don't know Here is a sample of a disused canal which doesn't break at all. I don't think it would break with highways. If you use

Re: [Tagging] Deprecated features - highway=disused

2010-12-20 Thread Craig Wallace
On 20/12/2010 22:23, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: I came across http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Disused_road today. I applied the proposal page template, indicating that the proposal had been obsoleted, as noted in the commentary on the page. Looking at the tag info for

Re: [Tagging] Editing road layouts that have bus routes

2010-12-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 15/12/2010 15:31, Laurence Penney wrote: The other day I tidied up a road junction near where I live in Bristol, moving nodes and deleting a way with the aid of Bing imagery. I found it more problematic than I expected because of a bus route that went along the road - the deleted way seems

Re: [Tagging] Bus depot?

2010-12-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/12/2010 23:43, Dave F. wrote: Hi How are bus depots being tagged? These are places where bus are stored, say overnight, when not in use. I've looked on taginfo there was only one use of bus_depot, so I assume it's being tagged differently, but not sure how. There was some discussion

Re: [Tagging] Charity tagging

2010-12-06 Thread Craig Wallace
On 06/12/2010 19:19, Laurence Penney wrote: The whole point of the social_facility, as described on the wiki, is clearly around helping people at that place. Charity shops such as Oxfam and British Heart Foundation - even if they have broad aims of social justice - just don't fit into this at

Re: [Tagging] geology taggin?

2010-11-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/11/2010 19:30, Ulf Lamping wrote: BTW: There was exactly *no* good example, which real world problem could be solved with landcover that can't be done with: surface, natural and/or landuse. I think it would help with the mess of natural=wood vs landuse=forest. eg if I see an area of

Re: [Tagging] geology taggin?

2010-11-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/11/2010 20:57, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/11/14 Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm: BTW: There was exactly *no* good example, which real world problem could be solved with landcover that can't be done with: surface, natural and/or landuse. I think it would help with the mess of

Re: [Tagging] landuse for arboretum

2010-11-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 11/11/2010 02:18, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: perhaps: landuse=botanical_garden collection=arboretum|fruticetum|viticetum|pinetum|... I'd prefer keeping landuse values at a minimum, and using subtags where necessary.

Re: [Tagging] landuse for arboretum

2010-11-10 Thread Craig Wallace
On 10/11/2010 22:01, Richard Welty wrote: i'm currently doing the boundaries for the Pine Hollow Arboretum south of Albany NY. none of the current landuse/natural tags seem quite appropriate. landuse=forest and natural= wood are closest, but i'd hesitate to use either without a subtype tag

Re: [Tagging] new highway tag for small and informal footpaths; trail

2010-10-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 22/10/2010 17:14, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: We could hijack the trail page (given that trail to native speakers implies what I want to express) Not really; see the rails to trails movement. Yes, trail is

Re: [Tagging] Chamber of Commerce?

2010-10-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 23/10/2010 01:00, Alan Mintz wrote: In most cities in the US, and even some smaller towns, there's an organization called the Chamber of Commerce. With varying participation from municipal government, it's a portal for new businesses to come to for help and information, networking with other

Re: [Tagging] Is highway=service, service=drive_thru a good idea?

2010-10-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 17/10/2010 11:40, Richard Weait wrote: And if service=drive_thru is to be revised, perhaps drive_thru=yes/no from Map Features should follow the same plan. Also redirecting drive_thru=yes to drive_in seems very wrong. A drive through and a drive in are very different in my experience.

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/10/2010 14:36, Andrew Errington wrote: So, when we get a renderer that can render name:ko + (name:en) we can delete all name=* which have been typed in that form and then rename name:ko=* to name=* No, this would not be helpful. Because then how do you know what language the name tag

Re: [Tagging] Country names

2010-10-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/10/2010 14:51, Peter Körner wrote: To render a German map there are two possibilities: 1. render name:de if it exists, name otherwise 2. render name if its identical to name:de, name (name:de) otherwise name does hereby refer to the local name ((how do the people that live there call

Re: [Tagging] Successful proposal

2010-10-13 Thread Craig Wallace
On 13/10/2010 15:04, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about removing highway=byway from the mapfeatures? It is used less then 2000 times (which is very little for highway), and it is UK-only, so IMHO no reason at all to be listed on the main features page, could be moved to mapfeatures UK. Yes,

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-20 Thread Craig Wallace
On 20/09/2010 19:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Hi, I'm asking for comments to the new barrier types listed here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/New_barrier_types Shouldn't barrier=curb use the UK spelling, ie kerb? Also, I don't see the need for barrier=swing_gate. It

Re: [Tagging] Vacant shop tagging...

2010-08-18 Thread Craig Wallace
On 16/08/2010 11:11, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/8/16 Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm: On 15/08/2010 22:30, John Smith wrote: I'm not sure this is the best way to do things, what do others think? If its vacant, then its not a shop, so shouldn't be tagged as such. IMHO a shop is a shop

Re: [Tagging] tagging farmers markets?

2010-08-16 Thread Craig Wallace
On 17/08/2010 01:43, Richard Welty wrote: i don't see an obvious tag in the system. i'm not talking about shop=farm, where the shop is physically located at the farm, but about places where one or more producers come together to sell. some are intermittant (and would need schedule tags), but

Re: [Tagging] tagging farmers markets?

2010-08-16 Thread Craig Wallace
On 17/08/2010 03:09, Richard Welty wrote: ok, but how about a physical building named Ryan's Farmers Market where i presume (i haven't been inside, i just saw it for the first time today) the produce is from local farmers, but it's a conventional brick-and-mortar store with normal hours.

Re: [Tagging] Vacant shop tagging...

2010-08-15 Thread Craig Wallace
On 15/08/2010 22:30, John Smith wrote: I'm not sure this is the best way to do things, what do others think? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:shopoldid=517645diff=next If its vacant, then its not a shop, so shouldn't be tagged as such. Otherwise it will

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-07-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/07/2010 11:30, Richard Mann wrote: winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery and shop=vineyard, I'd use the more generic term

Re: [Tagging] Route relation

2010-07-10 Thread Craig Wallace
On 10/07/2010 11:29, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: Hi my first try with relations i am tying to make a route relations it is relation 1027135, it is some way segments with 3 bus stops i keep getting validation errors in JOSOM error: Role stop unknown error: Role route unknown dont know what

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-29 Thread Craig Wallace
On 29/06/2010 16:40, Jason Cunningham wrote: And I'm about to edit it back to sport=association_football. The use of soccer should never have crept in to OSM. I've made it clear that I think the use of soccer will be very controversial in the UK. I could never participate in a project that

Re: [Tagging] 'name' variation tags standardisation

2010-06-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 25/06/2010 13:04, y...@o2.pl wrote: Now there is a good trend to use colon in key names. Maybe we should move these tags below? int_name - name:international nat_name - name:national reg_name - name:regional loc_name - name:local old_name - name:old alt_name - name:alt or

Re: [Tagging] 'name' variation tags standardisation

2010-06-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 25/06/2010 16:36, Alex Mauer wrote: On 06/25/2010 10:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: But how do you know whether the part after the colon is a language code or a type of name? eg alt is the ISO 639-2 code for Southern Altai. Does openstreetmap use the ISO 639-2 codes? It looks to me like

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 24/06/2010 14:47, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2010 23:14, aellaw_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: Still, I was hoping for a better word than yard. What was wrong with Liz's suggestion? shop = supplies supplies =

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants - Timber Merchant

2010-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 24/06/2010 15:37, John Smith wrote: On 25 June 2010 00:34, Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm wrote: shop=supplies is meaningless. Every shop supplies something. What about something like shop=industrial_supplies ? That seems to be a fairly common name for these sorts of places around here.

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

2010-05-27 Thread Craig Wallace
On 27/05/2010 22:09, Liz wrote: rest area has been redirected to highway=services with a note to a Wikipedia entry. The wikipedia entry is huge and after much scrolling down the page it becomes quite obvious that Rest Area has many meanings on highways worldwide. While highway=services is

Re: [Tagging] More tagging questions

2010-05-07 Thread Craig Wallace
On 07/05/2010 21:09, Jonas Minnberg wrote: In Sweden we have special barriers in the ground that only larger vehicles can pass, meant to allow buses but not normal cars - is there a tag for such a thing or should I make one up? barrier=bus_trap it's listed on the Key:barrier page, but without

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Craig Wallace
On 06/05/2010 13:49, Jonas Minnberg wrote: Ok so I keep running into these; green areas visible on satellite imagery that are tagged as parks but aren't really. My first instinct was to remove them, but that was mostly met with skepticism and alternative tag suggestions. So I am thinking of

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)

2010-04-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 28/04/2010 19:43, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:27 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I agree that cart=yes would probably be the best solution. That way, you avoid the confusion between different regional dialects, and the

Re: [Tagging] Marina - mapnik render change

2010-04-17 Thread Craig Wallace
On 17/04/2010 23:41, Dave F. wrote: Hi Replies in-line: Sam Vekemans wrote: Sounds like a good change to me :) OK, but what do you suggest for the water part of a marina? If its a body of standing water, then tag it as natural=water. Most marinas will be part of a larger body of water

Re: [Tagging] Proposal for more detail on leisure=playground

2010-03-25 Thread Craig Wallace
On 25/03/2010 14:11, antony.king wrote: Hi all, As a result of not being able to find public outdoor play facilities for my disabled child, I've started a bit of a project to collect data on such things. To which end, there is now a project page here:

Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses

2010-01-27 Thread Craig Wallace
On 27/01/2010 12:37, Matthias Julius wrote: Emilie Laffrayemilie.laff...@gmail.com writes: What you have done looks good. I think it makes sense. Would you tag a business facility that is not really an office like a machine shop or other production facility as office=* as well? I would

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/12/2009 09:15, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Roy Wallacewaldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree - from the wiki: highway=path is a route open to the public which is not intended for motor vehicles with four or more wheels. I think highway=path is perfect.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-14 Thread Craig Wallace
On 14/12/2009 16:37, Mike Harris wrote: Well, first of all, what you describe would still be correctly labeled as a path. However, I have to really doubt that 90% of ways tagged with path are probably unsuitable for any traffic other than pedestrian. Maybe 90% are unpaved, but unpaved does

Re: [Tagging] A first step towards bringing the wiki and tool support closer together

2009-12-08 Thread Craig Wallace
On 09/12/2009 01:27, Steve Bennett wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see how this is beneficial. As others have said, it just encourages tagging for the *current implementation of* the renderer, as