Re: [Tagging] Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - childcare

2011-05-12 Thread Sean Horgan
I personally like when OSM definitions are linked to other references, especially a well-known source like wikipedia. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/social+service: social service n. 1. Organized efforts to advance human welfare; social work. 2. Services, such as free school lunches,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 11.05.2011 23:45, schrieb Stefan Bethke: Am 11.05.2011 um 23:01 schrieb Tobias Knerr: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can still be determined at any point

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/5/11 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can still be determined at any point along the road from just the single outline

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it. To summarize what I intended to say: * I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a counter example yet. * If everyone mapped road parts as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - voting - childcare

2011-05-12 Thread Flaimo
i changed the main key to service_times, but i kept the subkey. otherwise it would be problematic in case someone want to tag the office hours separately. flaimo Message: 6 Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 01:15:26 +0200 From: M?rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread john
Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes. There are sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk. Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider. On one street here in Nashville, Tennessee, USA, the sidewalk is about three meters to the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Stefan Bethke
Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it. To summarize what I intended to say: * I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/5/12 Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr: Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it. To summarize what I intended to say: * I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a single outline area for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - voting - childcare

2011-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/12 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: i changed the main key to service_times, but i kept the subkey. otherwise it would be problematic in case someone want to tag the office hours separately. IMHO the key service_times refers to the feature, which is children daycare in this case. There is no

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/12/2011 7:58 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes. There are sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk. Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider. On one street here in Nashville, Tennessee,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/12 j...@jfeldredge.com: Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes.  There are sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk.   Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider.  On one street here in Nashville, Tennessee, USA, the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - childcare

2011-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/12 Sean Horgan seanhor...@gmail.com: I personally like when OSM definitions are linked to other references, especially a well-known source like wikipedia. at least then link to a specific version of an article. From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/social+service: social service n.

[Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread Sam Vekemans
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:contact:website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website According to taginfo, the former isn't used much... and in JOSM i havent yet seen it actually used.. For consistency, please help align the tagging schema to JOSM. So then when changes are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
Stefan Bethke wrote: Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr: * I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a counter example yet. Ever been to any city? Should I post photos just looking out the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread fly
Am 12.05.2011 19:03, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Stefan Bethke wrote: Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr: * I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a counter example yet. Ever been to any city?

Re: [Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread Flaimo
the reason for that might be, than no editor supports the contact: syntax. personally, i always use it and type it in manually without the JOSM preset, because it makes locating all the contact information in long tag lists much easier. same goes for addr:, payment: and fuel: hopefully in the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/12 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: What do we do with dual-carriage ways ? Sometimes there exist paved connections between both directions. Maybe blocked by a barrier but that is no need. if they are constantly connected (no change of the paving, no physical barrier) it's actually not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/12/2011 2:31 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/5/12 flylowfligh...@googlemail.com: What do we do with dual-carriage ways ? Sometimes there exist paved connections between both directions. Maybe blocked by a barrier but that is no need. if they are constantly connected (no change of the

Re: [Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread fly
Am 12.05.2011 20:26, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: 2011/5/12 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: the reason for that might be, than no editor supports the contact: syntax. personally, i always use it and type it in manually without the JOSM preset, because it makes locating all the contact information in

Re: [Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread Flaimo
when was the topic of webcams ever mentioned? they have nothing to do with this topic. also we are not talking about what counts as a contact information and what not. pretty much everybody agrees that phone, fax, e-mail and website are seen as contact information, probably because millions of

Re: [Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread Mike N
On 5/12/2011 4:52 PM, Flaimo wrote: the numbers you list are like that because, as i mentioned before, most use the presets for tagging. if the presets would be changed to use the contact: prefix, the situation would be exactly the contrary in two years. so we should list advantages and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway

2011-05-12 Thread fly
Am 12.05.2011 22:27, schrieb Stefan Bethke: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.569837lon=10.027266zoom=18layers=M For comparison: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8hq=ll=53.569829,10.026878spn=0.0015,0.003468t=hz=19 (about two years old, a couple of details have changed since.) As you

Re: [Tagging] website=*url* vs. contact:website=*url*

2011-05-12 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/12 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: when was the topic of webcams ever mentioned? they are part of the contact-proposal. I mentioned them to point out, that even if everyone followed this proposal and added contact: to some of the tags, this wouldn't improve overall consistency. contact

Re: [Tagging] Vote / Opinion poll about history=event

2011-05-12 Thread John Smith
Out of boredom I tried to think up all the non-physical tags currently in wide spread use: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:historic%3Devent#Why_even_obscure_tags_should_be_documented_if_they_are_likely_to_be_mapped.21 I doubt the list is exhaustive, but these are obviously important