Re: [Tagging] Tagging U-Turns (Was: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection)

2010-07-23 Thread Ross Scanlon
Should we be tagging where it's allowed or where it's not allowed or where it's signed specifically one way or the other? Only where it's signed. -- Cheers Ross ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread Ross Scanlon
The right long term solution for this stuff is to use country-specific tags, (eg, in australia we could use amenity=ses_station or something), and to centrally define (in machine-readable terms) what those country-specific tags are. But I think we're a fair way from being able to implement

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Ross Scanlon
Actually we could do both, we could add emergency=* tags to existing POIs without any problems as far as I know, and in future remove the old amenity tag. I think this is a better option. Just need to make sure that a date is set to remove the old amenity tags. -- Cheers Ross

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Ross Scanlon
On 29 July 2010 19:15, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Just need to make sure that a date is set to remove the old amenity tags. What would a reasonable time frame be? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Thread Ross Scanlon
Better yet - just don't change it. This sort of change just isn't worth the pain and hundreds of developer hours that could be better spent on moving the project forward. Yes - this sort of change might make the tag heirachy prettier - but not enough to justify the work. Garbage. It's not

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
Well done. Pretty much none of the others do. I look forward to your patches :) Heres the patch for the default.style for osm2pgsql node,way emergency text nocache,polygon Wasn't worth a diff patch as it's only one line. (30 seconds) Mapnik for instance has manual rules -

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:05:19 +0100 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2010 16:26, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Total time 6 minutes Hundreds of hours, yeah right. The program I've been talking about uses osm2pgsql and mapnik so I'm well aware

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Thread Ross Scanlon
I just don't see an ambulance/fire station as an emergency. I mean, if you fall down and injure yourself you don't try get to the station you 'phone up get an ambulance to come to you. The suggestion is to have fire, police and ambulance as emergency. -- Cheers Ross

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

2010-07-31 Thread Ross Scanlon
Work out why it doesn't appear (5 min - your patch is actually very slightly wrong btw, can you spot your mistake?) Spotted my friday afternoon coding did you. Glad to see someones on the ball!! However the above is just for fun - lets replace my original statement with 'a lot of time' and

Re: [Tagging] turn restrictions, multiple time intervals

2010-08-16 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:30:26 -0700 Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, How would one tag a turn restriction ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions) which is active say 6-9AM and 3-6PM every day? hour_on/hour_off seem to only be sufficient for one time

Re: [Tagging] turn restrictions, multiple time intervals

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:04:21 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 August 2010 17:44, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com wrote: Michael Barabanov wrote: Seems like double work to me. Ross's suggestion may just work. If there're no objections, I'll update the

Re: [Tagging] is tourism a good category for everything cultural?

2010-08-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
Well, I will take a change to 'troll' again about it. This discussion comes up again and again because we don't have: a) clear tagging guidelines (*not* rules) b) mechanism to replace tags Agree totally. This (b) would be easily recitified by normalising the database in regards to tags.

Re: [Tagging] is tourism a good category for everything cultural?

2010-08-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:03:42 +0200 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 24.08.2010 09:36, schrieb Ross Scanlon: Well, I will take a change to 'troll' again about it. This discussion comes up again and again because we don't have: a) clear tagging guidelines (*not* rules) b

Re: [Tagging] is tourism a good category for everything cultural?

2010-08-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
You may also want to have a read of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_normalization -- Cheers Ross ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] is tourism a good category for everything cultural?

2010-08-24 Thread Ross Scanlon
Typical. NFI about database use so you resort to slinging mud. I have a significant idea about how osm works as I have to integrate it into programs I write or contribute to. If the database was normalised then I'd have a reduction of about 1000 lines of code in one program

Re: [Tagging] How do you map handicapped parking? (and other questions)

2010-08-29 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 01:04:09 -0400 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: There doesn't seem to be a tag on the wiki for either handicapped parking spots in a larger lot or a dedicated handicapped lot. amenity=parking capacity:disabled=yes or number of spaces. It's on the wiki:

Re: [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-08-31 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:10 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: a) you will add a note or FIXME to express this to the following mapper. At least you have a 50% chance that it is already right. Perhaps you can explain how I or anyone else will determine the direction

Re: [Tagging] This needs to be nipped in the bud

2012-03-06 Thread Ross Scanlon
On 06/03/12 03:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 03/05/2012 08:12 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes_and_complex_intersections_visual_approach User Cmuelle8 insists on adding it to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lane_tagging_comparison#A_visual_approach

Re: [Tagging] Turn Restriction usage

2012-04-11 Thread Ross Scanlon
In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider and becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came along one of the one way sections, then turned about 340 degrees to go down the other side of the road. It may be legal to do a u-turn there, but I don't

Re: [Tagging] Turn Restriction usage

2012-04-11 Thread Ross Scanlon
No. The router should know not to do this. Likewise as below the router should not make u turns at traffic lights. Based on what? How does the router know that the two ways are two carriageways of a single road? Couldn't they be a straight road, that becomes a oneway street at a certain point,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is talking about: https://binged.it/2kN1tfC To all intents it could be a park. In osm it's at: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073 Cheers Ross On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote: Yes, I see

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
an educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't turn any up. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <i...@4x4falcon.com <mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: This is the aerial imagery of the ar