I would guess that a tourist strip would refer to a group of businesses that
cater mainly to tourists, such as souvenir shops, rather than catering to local
residents. Since the two are sometimes intermingled, my preference would be to
use an area tag such as retail_area, and then map the
One issue with tagging a commercial parking lot as landuse=road is that it is
generally legal to use a road as a through route, whereas you can be issued a
traffic ticket for simply cutting across a parking lot without stopping.
Admittedly, this isn't always enforced. In my experience, this
So, in Italy, the owner of a private parking lot is not allowed to say that his
parking lot can't be used as a public street? It is common in the USA to see
signs at parking-lot entrances saying no through traffic.
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Well, you presumably would have an intermediate step in which the railway is no
longer being used for train traffic, but the rails and crossties (also known as
sleepers) have not yet been taken up, so it isn't suitable yet for use as a
cycleway.
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Shop=wedding is ambiguous. Going by the tag name alone it could be a shop
selling wedding supplies (decorative materials used for weddings), a shop
selling wedding gowns, or even a bakery specializing in wedding cakes, or any
combination of the above.
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Your proposed changes make sense to me.
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I happened to stumble over
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre
The
It sounds to me like office=wedding_planner would be the best choice.
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It looks like you have come up with good solutions to all of the issues raised.
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Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org wrote:
However, in countries that have more than one official language, or in areas
that expect to have a lot of foreign visitors, you are likely to see more than
one language on at least some of the signs. In this case, what would you
recommend, particularly if the signs are labeled in more than one
So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but sold
merchandise other than cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
would have a tag building=kiosk, but would not have the tag shop=kiosk?
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Hello richard and john:
If they do not sell cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages
they are not shop=kiosk
The standard usage of kiosk, in most of the world, is to describe a type of
building. The word comes from Farsi (the language spoken in Iran), and
referred to a garden pavilion. The standard usage in English is to a small,
one-room building, with a window open on one or more sides.
Even by
Some of the folks in this discussion seem to be assuming that, if a street is
shown on plans but has not yet been built at the time that an OSM mapper marks
the locations of the existing street, this guarantees that the street will
never be built in the future. I was not aware that having OSM
I was reacting to the fact that some people were defining paper streets as
streets that haven't been built and never will be, rather than the definition
used at the start of the discussion, streets that haven't been built yet.
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Unless you can foresee the future, you can't say for sure whether or not a
given paper street will be built. All you can say for sure is that a street
has been planned and hasn't been built_yet_.
Sure you can
:Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] how to tag US townships?
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On 10/20/2010 03:24 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
Yeah, but for example we use the same admin_level
In the USA, ATMs will usually be labeled with the name of the bank chain
operating them, and then will have smaller decals on the front showing which
networks of banks that bank belongs to (for example, banking chain A and
banking chain B both are part of the Cirrus network). You can use any
In the USA, an A(M is usually a member of multiple networks, sometimes ten or
more, and will usually have decals on the front of the machine identifying
which networks it is a member of. You can use the machine if your bank is a
member of any of those networks, but may have to pay a surcharge
Peter Budny was talking about Richmond, Indiana, not Richmond, Virginia.
According to the Wikipedia article on Richmond, Indiana, Richmond is a city
largely within Wayne Township, Wayne County, in east central Indiana, which
borders Ohio.
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For that matter, roads originally intended for motor vehicle use are sometimes
later changed to being restricted to bicycle and/or foot use, particularly in
public parks. These park roads will often have a gate blocking vehicular
entry, with official personnel able to open the gate when
The amount of delay varies according to the traffic, particularly in cases
where one cross-street is not required to stop at the intersection. I have
encountered intersections where, at rush hour, you effectively can't make a
left turn from the side street, or go straight across, because the
I have never seen a stop sign at a railroad crossing. Buses are required by
law to stop before a railroad crossing, and open the bus door so that the
driver can better hear if a train is approaching. Some other commercial
vehicles routinely stop as well, but private vehicles aren't required
Pea gravel is mined from river and stream beds. Crushed-stone gravel comes
from quarries. The latter type is commonly used in concrete (pea gravel is
sometimes used in a surface layer). I am not an engineer, but I do live near a
gravel pit.
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Le 14/11/2010 12:15, Nathan Edgars II a écrit :
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:08 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
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2010/11/13 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 13 November 2010 21:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
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access
a écrit :
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:08 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
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On 13 November 2010 21:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
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access no is completely wrong IMHO, better might be access=private
What I am visualizing is a parking lot, perhaps government-owned, where only
those who are currently car-pooling are allowed to park. Others would be
allowed to enter to drop off or pick up passengers there, but not to park
there. I don't, offhand, know of any such, but would not be surprised
If you wanted to describe both the soil and what is growing on the soil, would
you use both a surface tag and also a landcover tag? For example, if you had a
sand dune stabilized by beach grass, would you use surface=sand and
landcover=beach_grass?
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To expand upon my earlier example, imagine a sandy beach with some exposed rock
outcroppings, and sand dunes with beach grass growing on them. The entire area
would be tagged with natural=beach. Exposed rocks would be tagged with
surface=rock, and the rest with surface=sand. In addition,
So, you would be using multiple surface tags on the same area? I thought that
the usual practice was to have only one surface=whatever tag on a given area.
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From my personal experience, beach grass usually grows in the
somewhat-scattered manner shown in these photos, not as densely as grass
growing on regular soil. That is why I suggested documenting both the sand
(surface tag) and also the vegetation growing on the sand (landcover tag).
I agree that it makes more sense to have a separate tag for the weight limit.
I would also not be surprised to find certain roads forbidden to trucks over a
certain length, or forbidding trucks with tandem trailers, because the road in
question doesn't have room for a vehicle that size to turn
How will it handle multiple businesses sharing the same street address? A
common pattern in the USA is for all of the offices/stores in a shared building
to have the same street address but have different suite numbers (for example,
123 Main Street, suite 101; and 123 Main Street, Suite 102).
businesses to advertise their location with respect to the markers. I
used man_made=tower name=Marker 7, but I don't know if this is best.
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they rebuilt I-4 they left a small piece of
the old westbound lanes, including a bridge.
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supplies, baby products
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On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 04:23 +1000, John Smith wrote:
These shops can supply stuff for toddlers and children, not just
infants. Also I think the word 'care' is misleading, to me
. I'am voting for baby_goods :)
But does baby_goods or especially baby_products sounds like products
which are made by babies?
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I don't think anyone is likely to think this is a shop or factory using
babies as child labor; even if it were legal, babies would not be
particularly productive as workers.
Then why not shop=baby ? Selling children is illegal everywhere (I
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these usb spot in OSM.
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A tow truck driver doesn't need much more than a special license, I
don't think this is a craft at all.
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historic:period=aurelia
That way we can have more descriptive tags without worrying about conflicts
with non-historic meanings.
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but DC is pretty respectable).
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for the renderer, we should add don't tag for osm2pgsql.
Pieren
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dont follow that strictness as much.
I imagine that different cultures could have different definitions of
vegetarian too.
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collapsing these two tags into a unified tag and
making a final vote, and then fixing tags as necessary.
Thoughts?
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that you can cross.
For the barriers there is also tags to map them (be it a wall, grass,
a kerb, or whatever).
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sidewalk to the other). Realtime traffic information (time of day,
amount of traffic) is a general issue that one day we might be able to
solve, given enough real time data input.
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The problem with social_facility=outreach, even if you also use
social_facility:for=senior, is that it doesn't specify which of the many types
of services are available. Subtags for such things as adult daycare would also
be useful.
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I can think of many other situations where the same node would correspond to
more than one thing; having only one name label render, rather than multiple
labels, seems like it would be simple to implement as long as only a single
icon will be rendered. If you are going to render multiple
I live in Nashville, TN, USA. Since this is a center for the music industry,
many restaurants and pubs occasionally have live musicians. In my opinion, the
distinction between a nightclub and a pub would not be whether or not it has
live musicians (some of each have live musicians, some of
Part of the problem is that neighborhoods, unlike official administrative
units, or even Home Owner Associations, don't necessarily have agreed-upon
boundaries. Different people may consider the same location to be in different
neighborhoods.
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Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes. There are
sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk.
Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider. On one street here in
Nashville, Tennessee, USA, the sidewalk is about three meters to the
In American usage, seafood covers all aquatic-origin food, whether from fresh
water, estuaries, or the ocean.
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So, if you have an intersection of two streets, with one traffic signal facing
each direction, each of the four traffic signals will have its own distinct
name?
On September 29, 2014 4:45:33 PM CDT, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
The case of Japan is different. In Japan, the name
2009/10/12 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl:
On Monday 12 October 2009 14:34:42 Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:15 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
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The only problem then is how to tag the start/end of a numbering
section, based on that document major roads are broken up
2009/10/12 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
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The only problem then is how to tag the start/end of a numbering
section, based on that document major roads are broken up into
sections of 100km.
Relation: node for start, node
2009/10/12 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl:
And how are you going to find the start and end of those sections without
surveying? You won't, not unless you have some external data to import (and
you didn't mention anything about that).
Long sections of highways are an exception rather than the
2009/10/13 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2009/10/13 Gilles Corlobé gil...@corlobe.tk:
Hello everybody,
I propose to add a tag boundary=military : the problem is that, with the
existing tags, it's almost impossible to mark correctly lots of data, like
(non limitative list)
2009/10/13 lulu-...@gmx.de:
I would love to agree, but the needs of disabled persons are widely spread
over our tagging scheme anyway, and awareness of objects that refer to
accessibility is nearly zero.
There are categories for visual, hearing and walking impariment, colletcted
in the
2009/10/19 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
is an exception, there are not many exceptions though, and as soon as
a key:layer-page pops up, (e.g. set up by those who write continuously
about this lack in this list), it will be solved.
This requires an out of band work process, that
2009/10/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2009/10/20 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
There is probably a good reason only tourist attractions are mapped
because you wouldn't be allowed to go near one unless you worked
there, there is a mine shaft on the other side of town
2009/11/28 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
excepted in some cases in US. The problem with implied values is when
it is not true for a whole country and not only in a small number of
exceptions. Then the default is country specific and should be
documented separetely in the wiki for each country.
2009/12/3 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
* In France, if you are walking your bike you're considered a pedestrian. So
it's a footpath
Same thing applies in a number of Australian states, you are supposed
to dismount and walk your bike across pedestrian crossings.
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They wouldn't fit on the escalators anyway ;)
As in, bicycle=carriage_prohibited. Maybe that's an australian use. Actually
now that I google it, I guess carriage means, taking it
2009/12/27 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
How to tag a highway that goes through/under a building? In this
example, the service road is incorrectly rendered in mapnik as being
on top of the building, despite the building having layer=1:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316607432
I
2009/12/28 wynnd...@lavabit.com:
Using tagged population figures as a substitute to guide renderers has
been suggested but it brings its own problems because people will expect
them to be more broadly useful and figures may either be out of date or it
may be unclear what area is being
2009/12/28 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Is it? Can you explain why? Conceptually, all you need is layer=* and
the ability to detect the overlap of the building=yes area and the
highway=* way. But I guess you're saying this is hard to encode with
render rules?
This may need to be fixed
2009/12/29 Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com:
As far as rendering is concerned, neither layering nor covered is properly
rendered at this time on any of the renders that I'm aware of.
Did you file a request for enhancement against mapnik for covered?
2009/12/29 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
But isn't that the case with lots of nodes? The place=city name=London
node, does it describe something that is the node itself, or rather
lend a name to all that is around it?
The node should be part of a relation/boundary describing the area
that
Currently there is discussion on using relations to group segments of
a highway occurring:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599
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Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net writes:
On 01/05/2010 01:32 PM, John Smith wrote:
Currently there is discussion on using relations to group segments of
a highway occurring:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599
In that ticket, you wrote: “we think administrative polygons should be
used
2010/1/7 Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net:
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes:
As for the shields this is deviating from the topic at hand but for it
the shield can be derived from the lookup table on the wiki and then
extra preprossesing in osm2pgsql to assign a shield based
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