On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't agree with
planned-but-abandoned features being stored except in unusual
circumstances.
Key distinction is
planned-but-never-built (county plat book fantasy roads),
vs built, used, then abandoned
On 3/6/12 9:22 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
I just found the idea of saying this is a railway - a never-built one, but
a railway nonetheless a little extravagant.
umm, not never built. never completed. and in this case, a
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 08:04, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I've run into the same argument with people tagging construction sites for
various kinds of buildings. I always maintained that the object in question
is primarily a construction site, and the fact that a hotel or museum is
Am 5. März 2012 12:54 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
I just found the idea of saying this is a railway - a never-built one, but
a railway nonetheless a little extravagant.
I think that the feature in question is not a never built one but a
never finished one, which makes some
Frederik Ramm writes:
Hi,
On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote:
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value in the current landscape?
I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all.
You're kidding, right? If you google
Hi,
On 03/05/12 05:48, Russ Nelson wrote:
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value in the current landscape?
I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all.
You're kidding, right? If you google search for unfinished
Hi,
On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote:
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value in the current landscape?
I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all.
I suggest to tag what you see on the ground, rather than whatever the
On Feb 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote:
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value in the current landscape?
I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all.
I
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 02/25/12 01:23, Richard Welty wrote:
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant
important
landmark value in the current landscape?
I think that what you are seeing is not a railway at all.
I suggest to tag what you
I favor railway=abandoned and then if necessary specialize from there.
The point about data consumers not knowing about new tags and therefore
building a semantic hierarchy to optimize for sensible behavior is a
strong one.
You probably already know this, but: in OSM railway=abandoned is what we
On 2/25/2012 8:24 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
You probably already know this, but: in OSM railway=abandoned is what we
in the US would call old railroad grade. railway=disused seems to
cover both what we would call out of service (a term within railroad
regulation, referring to tracks/ROW still
On 2/25/2012 09:15:48 NE2 wrote:
Russ (and I) simply use railway=abandoned for this, with a note
explaining the details. For example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2021550 (needs a bit
of work).
I do?? Last I knew, I tagged them railway=unfinished, and you
unilaterally
On 2/25/2012 07:07:12 Steve Bennett wrote:
IMHO there is not much difference between a almost completed then
abandoned and completed then abandoned railway, from the
perspective of OSM.
When I'm out in the field chasing an unfinished railroad, it matters
very much. You see, unfinished
I agree with Russ here. I have more experience with abandoned RR, as
do most of us, since that 's what happened in the 20th C. ( Saddest
task in my professional life was snipping newly abandoned ways out of
my DOT GIS dataset in the 1980s.) But there are many more unfinished
RR's than we recall.
On 2/25/12 11:14 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Richard has found one,
i wouldn't say i found one. the Unfinished Railway is rather famous in
Civil
War circles, given the impact it had on Second Manassas. i just walked along
a fair chunk of the historically significant part this past week with a
Am 26. Februar 2012 02:19 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net:
abandoned=1859:before_completion
abandoned=:before_completion
abandoned=1958
or something else. suggestions?
you could use abandoned_date (like start_date) and have the
before/after completion part in another tag.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
you could use abandoned_date (like start_date) and have the
before/after completion part in another tag. Multiple things (date and
status) for one key should possibly be avoided.
+1
Keep things simple for the
this is kind of an edge case, but a genuine one.
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value
in the current landscape?
there is a railway cut and fill in the Manassas National Battlefield in
northern Virginia
which wasn't completed 150 years ago
On this, I'd consult Russ Nelson, the OSM diva of failed 19thC railroads.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
this is kind of an edge case, but a genuine one.
how do you tag a never-completed railway which has significant important
landmark value
in
any thoughts or suggestions?
IMHO there is not much difference between a almost completed then
abandoned and completed then abandoned railway, from the
perspective of OSM. Either way, it's not a present day railway, yet
there are some physical features that history buffs may be interested
in
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