Re: [OSM-talk] Osm2go: mobile mapping with Nokia n800/n810

2008-11-25 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: thanks. I am not sure about the performance impact of the patch as it increases the overall canvas size significantly. I'll have an eye on this as especially the small maemo devices seem to fight with their low memory. Well, a vector canvas shouldn't be

[OSM-talk] data issues in London?

2008-11-25 Thread Peter Miller
Is there something very wrong with the London data at the moment? I noticed it on the ITO service this morning and then checked that the same issues are also visible from another service to check if is was a processing error from our side. http://beta.letuffe.org/?zoom=14

Re: [OSM-talk] data issues in London?

2008-11-25 Thread Marc Schütz
But two of that way's nodes have been edited recently: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/109534/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/109536/history The edit was done by FilipeOliveira with Merkaartor on Nov 24 14:51:32. Regards, Marc Original-Nachricht

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/11/2008 06:41, Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Erik Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:11 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better editor (or API) support for different languages is surely a better way to go. If everyone here

Re: [OSM-talk] data issues in London?

2008-11-25 Thread Peter Miller
I have just uploaded an image of Europe which shows that the main data problem emanates from London although there also seems to be a problem from Holland to the same point on the Portuguese coast? http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3058044385/ Regards, Peter -Original

Re: [OSM-talk] data issues in London?

2008-11-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/11/25 Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just uploaded an image of Europe which shows that the main data problem emanates from London although there also seems to be a problem from Holland to the same point on the Portuguese coast? http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3058044385/

Re: [OSM-talk] data issues in London?

2008-11-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/11/25 Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/11/25 Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just uploaded an image of Europe which shows that the main data problem emanates from London although there also seems to be a problem from Holland to the same point on the Portuguese coast?

[OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Pieren
The feature smoothness has been enabled and disabled 12 times in the past 7 days from the wiki Map Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:smoothness We should stop the game now. All the people who like the Map Features page should say something about this edit war

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The feature smoothness has been enabled and disabled 12 times in the past 7 days from the wiki Map Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:smoothness We should stop the game now. All the people

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread vegard
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 04:49:36PM +0100, Pieren wrote: The feature smoothness has been enabled and disabled 12 times in the past 7 days from the wiki Map Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:smoothness We should stop the game now. All the people who like

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] USA - Bay Area local talk list

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Collinson
I've set up a Bay Area list. Thanks to Sarah Manley for initiating this. If you do live in this area or you have an interest in mapping there, do consider joining up. Talk-us-bayarea You can subscribe to this and other lists at: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo Mike

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-at - Austria

2008-11-25 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-at - Austria specific topics and discussion - mailing list available. Thank you to Wolfgang Silbermayr for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-talk] Pretty image of the planet (and some scribbles)

2008-11-25 Thread Peter Miller
I have just uploaded the pretty image of the planet to our Flickr site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/ We have also entered it for Image of the Week (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Featured_images#A_year_of_edits_on_ planet_earth) but I am not sure how the process

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Sebastian Hohmann
Andy Allan schrieb: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The feature smoothness has been enabled and disabled 12 times in the past 7 days from the wiki Map Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:smoothness We should stop the game

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Nov 25, 2008, at 17:16, Andy Allan wrote: Go ChrisCF is all I can say - I'd rather that the wiki was a meritocracy With those in charge that show most determination in an edit war? than ochlocracy and I'm flabbergasted that such ill-conceived tagging is now an acceptable norm.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread sylvain letuffe
On Tuesday 25 November 2008 17:52, Robert Vollmert wrote: On Nov 25, 2008, at 17:16, Andy Allan wrote: Go ChrisCF is all I can say - I'd rather that the wiki was a meritocracy With those in charge that show most determination in an edit war? Let's drop oil on the fire ! ( even if it's not

Re: [OSM-talk] Pretty image of the planet (and some scribbles)

2008-11-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/11/25 Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just uploaded the pretty image of the planet to our Flickr site. http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/ We have also entered it for Image of the Week

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread Scott Atwood
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Erik Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your and Elenas opinion seems to be that Openstreetmap should be consistent. That's not my fight; OSM isn't consistent, hasn't been since 2005. I'm actually only talking about translation, lets say I want to tag snow,

Re: [OSM-talk] Pretty image of the planet (and some scribbles)

2008-11-25 Thread Peter Miller
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Stubbs 2008/11/25 Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We have also entered it for Image of the Week (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Featured_images#A_year_of_edits_o n_planet_earth)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Sebastian Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has been voted on and should thus stay on Map Features. Therein lies the problem, in my opinion, specifically with the thus. Things could be voted on, but not put onto the Map Features page, perhaps - otherwise

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread sylvain letuffe
I'm in absolute un-diplomatic mood, but there are, in this mail NO personnal attack of any kind. And as I am writing it, it turns out it is not more a matter of smoothness, but still : All the people who like the Map Features page should say something about this edit war even if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread DavidD
2008/11/25 Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Personally, I don't see what's wrong with distinguishing between a normal paved road and one that's suitable for inline skating with smoothness=good vs. smoothness=excellent. Or between roughly cobblestoned road and the one most people wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Pieren
The Map Features page is really a very important page and not only for newcomers. It is supposed to show the commonly agreed way of tagging core features. But now we have this edit war about smoothness which enters in conflict with tracktype and surface. The way how those tags can co-exists is

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread sylvain letuffe
Who knows what you can or can't inline skate on? Who knows what makes a sports car a sports car? What's the difference between a trekking bike and a city bike? What's the worst terrain a tractor can handle? I've never even seen a rickshaw and how many people have ridden in a wheelchair? You

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Sebastian Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Even if the tag is horrible, it has been voted on and should thus stay on Map Features. Or should just everyone edit the wiki without regard for others. The tag is, in my opinion, very_horrible, but that is besides

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi, We should stop the game now. All the people who like the Map Features page should say something about this edit war even if they don't care about smoothness. I really feel disappointed. Agreed. It needs to stop, people need to discuss the issue here instead. Is the feature used? Then,

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread sylvain letuffe
The place for an approved tag which is not widely used is Approved features, not Map Features. That could be a solution. And I think that's where we need to go anyway as the map feature page is just too big. What you seams to propose here is keep the good tags well in view and the bad tags

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread Norbert Wenzel
On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active mappers, which just are not sure. I would consider a lot of those entries just to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Ralf Zimmermann
Gustav Foseid wrote: We need to have a place to document the most used tags and tags that should be known, and easy to find, for newcomers as well as trained mappers. That is the Map Features page, and it should be reserved for a core set of tags, recognised by the most important renders

[OSM-talk] TIGER - new maplint test

2008-11-25 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all, I just implemented a new maplint test to check for tiger:reviewed=no tags. Currently it would generate notices (shown in yellow) because lots of objects are going to be highlighted by this test and I don't want to obscure other warnings. The new test can be seen at

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/11/2008 19:49, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active mappers, which just are not sure. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The place for an approved tag which is not widely used is Approved features, not Map Features. That could be a solution. And I think that's where we need to go anyway as the map feature page is just too big. What you seams to propose here is

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Ralf Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The voting process and its imperfectness has been discussed a lot. And this is a different topic really. But I still see the voting process being useful. It is a very good way of quickly getting opinions that could leave to one of two

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 25/11/2008 19:49, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiny island coastline errors

2008-11-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Cartinus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while ago (last spring?) the coastline error checker displayed an error for the coastlines of very small islands where there was actually nothing wrong with the coastline. I thought this bug in the coastline error checker was

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Ralf Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the tags that are being rendered by Mapnik or [EMAIL PROTECTED], if somebody makes a list of those I would put them on the wiki somewhere close to the renderer. This is because of two reasons: a) If a tag is not

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread Ralf Zimmermann
People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. I want to tell you that I think OpenStreetBugs works nicely in the area of Munich, Germany. I am writing comments on OSB every now and then and I am checking it pretty regularly. In Munich I would say we have established

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Ed Loach
I'll admit I visited the proposal page when the call for votes was first announced here in September. The discussion still seemed unfinished, and I couldn't see me ever using the feature, so then forgot about it. The discussion still seems unfinished but the voting seems to have closed with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Pretty image of the planet (and some scribbles)

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dave Stubbs wrote: It doesn't really. If at all then it happens in place on that page. Generally OJW is the one who picks good ones from the proposals page, and promotes them to a featured image slot. I asked about the process a long time ago and basically got the response that as long

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: The biggest criticism of the voting has been that only very few people participate in it and how are those 15 people to tell thousands of mappers how to tag. Most of all since we're growing exponentially and even if we had 90% of mappers agree on something today,

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Ralf Zimmermann
First of all - I think those edit wars are silly. Please think before you get involved in these things. Put your energy into some useful stuff instead of just fighting an opinion you might not understand right now. Who knows what you can or can't inline skate on? Inline-Skaters do! Who

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Pieren wrote: The feature smoothness has been enabled and disabled 12 times in the past 7 days from the wiki Map Features page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:smoothness I have tried to understand what this is about but failed. Obviously some guy named ChrisCF

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread Kyle Gordon
Ralf Zimmermann wrote: People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. So your average user, who is just having a look for his house will go to the hassle of finding the mailing list, signing up, approving his email, and then posting? I don't think so. The people

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Kyle Gordon wrote: Ralf Zimmermann wrote: People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. So your average user, who is just having a look for his house will go to the hassle of finding the mailing list, signing up, approving his email, [...] Have you read

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Erik Johansson wrote: pat=patuqutaujuq == natural=snow pat=patuqun == natural=snow pat=patpat == natural=snow Ah, the old story about the various Inuit names for snow, isn't it. How about natural=snow snow=slush snow=sleet snow=blizzard snow=drift snow=white-out snow=flurry snow=powder

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread sylvain letuffe
First comment on the ChrisFC problem - to be that there's a lack of values Is that what you understood he meant ? I am a bit lost in trying to understand what he does propose to make things better or to give new values... I thought it was

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for every tag going to Map Features, maybe it really is time we split - put everything that is widely used on Map Features, and make another page with Other Features where we have all those that have been proposed and

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Johansson wrote: pat=patuqutaujuq == natural=snow pat=patuqun == natural=snow pat=patpat == natural=snow Ah, the old story about the various Inuit names for snow, isn't it. :-) Sure it's a wonderful urban myth,

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Scott Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Ideally, there should be a single, consistent representation[...]in UK English [..] Then, in the UI, the canonical value could be translated into an appropriate local expression. Hi again! Since there is little

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Ben Supnik
Hi, Slight tangent on the edit war (which has morphed into a discussion of what to do with the ever-growing list of map features on the wiki)... We don't want to tag to the renderer, but knowing what clients utilize what tags is important. In my experience with user-collected data in X-Plane

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-11-25 Thread Steven Le Roux
Ok, I used to skate for the past, and what can i say is, the smoothness tag is here very useful... actually all curb are not usable with roller or skate, even if they are with bikes...so this is a tag for someone who wants to map a curb... Thus, the tag makes sense... I think we can manage here

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?

2008-11-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread Scott Atwood
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Erik Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Scott Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Ideally, there should be a single, consistent representation[...]in UK English [..] Then, in the UI, the canonical value could be

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?

2008-11-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread D Tucny
2008/11/26 Erik Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Scott Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Ideally, there should be a single, consistent representation[...]in UK English [..] Then, in the UI, the canonical value could be translated into an appropriate

[OSM-talk] allowable use of openstreetmap tiles for websites and others

2008-11-25 Thread maning sambale
Hi, Adding a slippy map with openstreetmap data for any webpage is now very easy using the export to html functionality. I have been telling other people to do just that if they want to add a map to their own sites. How much is allowed in using OSM tiles for their own website? For very high

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

2008-11-25 Thread maning sambale
Hey! This sounds sensible. Why not as place=village (or what happens to suit that place) and place:ph=barangay ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk --

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] amenity=college

2008-11-25 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 24 November 2008, Freek wrote: On Monday 24 November 2008, Roeland Douma wrote: Misschien is het sowieso een idee om een extra tag toe te voegen. Waarmee we aan kunnen geven of iets een MBO/HBO/... is, middelbare school (VMBO/HAVO/VWO/) Altijd weer leuk voor thema

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] amenity=college

2008-11-25 Thread Freek
On Tuesday 25 November 2008, Ben Laenen wrote: On Monday 24 November 2008, Freek wrote: On Monday 24 November 2008, Roeland Douma wrote: Misschien is het sowieso een idee om een extra tag toe te voegen. Waarmee we aan kunnen geven of iets een MBO/HBO/... is, middelbare school

Re: [Talk-de] Flyer auf Spanisch

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! mein spanischer Kontakt hat sich bereit erklärt ggf. einen englischen Text aus dem engl. zu übersetzen. Hat einer einen entsprechenden ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderweg - Relation - Frankenweg

2008-11-25 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Willi Rehfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am 25.11.2008, 08:28 Uhr, schrieb Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nördlich von Gräfenberg bis zum Signalstein sollte nun alles passen. Hier meine sonntägliche schneewanderung: http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/trips/2008/20081123-signalstein.html ich

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderweg - Relation - Frankenweg

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hallo Karl, Das eck bei Hedersdorf ist nun weg. ja, ich habe es nach Rücksprache mit dem zuständigen Wegewart gelöscht. Fragen zu Wanderwegen in der Fränkischen gerne an mich, ich kläre sie dann mit dem Wegewart. östlich von Dorfhaus fehlt ein Stück Dort bin ich diesmal wieder nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Bayerisches Vermessungsamt

2008-11-25 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:05:37PM +0100, André Reichelt wrote: FrauSuhrbier schrieb: Das sind mal Neuigkeiten: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Luftbilder_aus_Bayern Läuft das Ganze denn jetzt schon? Darf man schon abzeichnen? Die Verhandlungen laufen noch. Markus wird sich

Re: [Talk-de] Nur Hausnummern markiren in JOSM?

2008-11-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 25.11.2008, at 08:26, Marcus Wolschon wrote: Die Suchfunktion nutzen und als Suchbegriff einfach addr:housenumber eingeben. Läßt sich die Suchfunktion in dieser Weise auf die aktuelle Auswahl Bounding-Box einschränken? Ja, mit dem Suchbegriff addr:housenumber selected. Bye

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Sven Anders
Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 08:27 schrieb Wolfgang W. Wasserburger: also offensichtlich ist die österreichische Verwaltung hier einfach präziser; demnach sind Statutarstädte (vgl. kreisfreie ...) ex lege gleichzeitig Bezirk und decken damit wohl zwei admin_levels ab. Was ist böse daran?

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Sven Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: F?nde ich auch besser, das w?rde aber in letzter Konsequenz bedeuten das es f?r Hamburg dann 1: Deutschland 2: Hamburg 3: Bezirk (z.B. Habrurg) 4. Stadtteil (z.B. Hausbruch) 5. Siedlungen (z.B. Altwiedenthal) Nun ja... Zumindestens eine

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Wolfgang W. Wasserburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wenn man's halt rendern will, ist es schon angenehm, sich nicht durch 167 WikiSeiten qu?len zu m?ssen um zu wissen, da? Gemeindeniveau in Deutschland admin_level 7 und in ?sterreich 6 ist; ein Blick ?ber den Tellerrand gen?gt um zu erkennen,

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Markus, bei mir klappt es wunderbar! Vielleicht hast Du noch alte Daten im Cache? Gruß, Stefan Markus schrieb: Hilfe! - OL funktioniert nicht mehr...! Da hat endlich alles bestens funktioniert, Linien und Punkte wurden angezeigt, Texte und Fotos als Popup, und jetzt ist alles weg:

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hallo Stefan, bei mir klappt es wunderbar! *freu* Vielleicht hast Du noch alte Daten im Cache? hm - da war doch was mit Shift-Strg-Neuladen? (FF 2, Vista) Funktioniert nicht. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hilfe! - OL funktioniert nicht mehr...! Da hat endlich alles bestens funktioniert, Linien und Punkte wurden angezeigt, Texte und Fotos als Popup, und jetzt ist alles weg: http://www.lau-net.de/baerlocher/osm/Simmelsdorf.html http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/trips/2008/20081123-signalstein.html Ich

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Wolfgang W. Wasserburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... das einzig sinnvolle, was man aus der bisherigen Diskussion rauslesen kann, ist, da? es einfach bei admin_level=9 nicht aus sein darf. Sieht so aus ... Wobei ich derzeit dazu tendiere, 7 zu streichen ... Hier in Wien gibt es statistische

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Wolfgang W. Wasserburger
O fehlt - stimmt - werde mir den Uberblick verschaffen und mal was tun ;-) lg W. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Heiko Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:11 PM To: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Moin Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heiko Jacobs wrote: Damit waere die Einteilung aber um 2 Einheiten zu lang, da boundary wohl nur bis 10 definiert ist eigentlich? Ich denke nicht, dass das so wichtig ist. Ok, dann werden wir bei Gelegenheit die hierarchie erweitern :-) Die

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Wolfgang W. Wasserburger
war geschatzt: wenn 9 = Stadtgemeinde 10 = Stadtbezirk 11 = Zahlbezirk (rein statistisch) dann ist 12 = Baublock[teil] sehr realistisch - und fur die gibt es hier in Wien statistische Daten ausgewiesen ;-) oder aber: wenn 9 = Stadtgemeinde 10 = Stadtbezirk 11 = Katastralgemeinde (rein

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Michael Buchberger
Hi Markus, http://www.lau-net.de/baerlocher/osm/Simmelsdorf.html http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/trips/2008/20081123-signalstein.html Ich habe nichts geändert... Also bei mir (Vista, FF 3.0.4 und IE7) tut es. Kann alle Overlays ein-/ausschalten und den Baselayer wechseln und

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Olaf Hannemann
Hallo Markus, Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 12:27:33 schrieb Markus: hm - da war doch was mit Shift-Strg-Neuladen? (FF 2, Vista) Funktioniert nicht. Habe http://www.lau-net.de/baerlocher/osm/Simmelsdorf.html gerade mal mit Vista und FF3.0.4 ausprobiert. Klappt wunderbar (auch die Layer).

[Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Leute, http://www.golem.de/0811/63763.html 3.950 US-Dollar ... interessant. Gab es nicht mal vor kurzem ein Projekt, welches aus OSM-Daten Maps für GTA3 gemacht hat? Ich habe einige Videos gesehen, in denen man dann mit Autos durch die Straßen fahren konnte - weiß jemand, wie das heißt?

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Tobias Wendorff: Gab es nicht mal vor kurzem ein Projekt, welches aus OSM-Daten Maps für GTA3 gemacht hat? Die CityEngine von Procedural.com macht das. Video hier: http://www.procedural.com/cityengine/import-export/layer-import.html Gruß, Claudius

[Talk-de] mkgmap - Dateiname läßt sich nicht festlegen

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! ich habe mir die Version 718 heruntergeladen von mkgmap und versucht eine osm-Datei in eine IMG-Datei mit definiertem Namen zu konvertieren. Alle Dateien liegen in einem Verzeichnis und folgende Zeile schicke ich auf den Weg: java -jar mkgmap.jar spain_almeria.osm

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Claudius Henrichs schrieb: Die CityEngine von Procedural.com macht das. Video hier: http://www.procedural.com/cityengine/import-export/layer-import.html Genau das habe ich doch verlinkt (fast $4.000) - es gab aber auch ein OpenSource-Projekt, welches das verfolgt hat.

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hallo Michael, http://www.lau-net.de/baerlocher/osm/Simmelsdorf.html http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/trips/2008/20081123-signalstein.html Also bei mir (Vista, FF 3.0.4 und IE7) tut es. *freu* Hast Du Ideen zur Fehlersuche bei mir? Versucht hatte ich (FF 2.0.0.18 wegen WMF): - Extras -

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder LVA Bayern

2008-11-25 Thread sven
Tipp fuers naechste mal in den Wiki Artikel ganz oben in grossen Lettern schreiben, das hier nur eine Presseinfo vorbereitet wird, und alles noch fiktiv ist... --- Sent from my Treo(r) smartphone -Original Message- From: Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, Nov

[Talk-de] OSM Composer

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! hat einer von Euch schon einmal Erfahrungen mit dem OSM-Composer gesammelt ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Composer Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-11-25 Thread Marcus Wolschon
Ich habe mal einen Stub für OpenStreetMap im Wiki des 25C3 angelegt. Wäre nett, wenn das noch jemand vervollständigen könnte und wir ein paar Leute für einen Tisch finden. Die Bewerbungs-Frist für einen Projekt-Tisch endet am 5.12 ! Marcus ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Fabian -Patzi- Patzke
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: Hallo Leute, http://www.golem.de/0811/63763.html 3.950 US-Dollar ... interessant. Gab es nicht mal vor kurzem ein Projekt, welches aus OSM-Daten Maps für GTA3 gemacht hat? Ich habe einige Videos gesehen, in denen man dann mit Autos durch die Straßen fahren

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Fabian, Fabian -Patzi- Patzke schrieb: Wäre jetzt die Frage wie einfach man OSM in CityGML wandeln kann. Klar einfache Straßen sollten rel. leicht gehen, aber weitere Features Gebäude auch da wo keine gemapped sind etc. würde dann fehlen. Nur mal so kurz mein Gedankengang ;) klar,

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder LVA Bayern

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hi Sven, Tipp fuers naechste mal in den Wiki Artikel ganz oben in grossen Lettern Tja, wer kann denn schon ahnen, dass die Presse die Mailingliste und unser chaotisches Wiki in Beobachtung hat... Aber in diesem Fall denke ich, dass die Bayrische Regierung sich bestimmt freut über diese

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Olaf Hannemann
Hallo Markus, Am Dienstag, 25. November 2008 14:27:08 schrieb Markus: Versucht hatte ich (FF 2.0.0.18 wegen WMF): - Extras - private Daten löschen - Cache - jetzt löschen - Shift-Strg-neuladen habe mir auf meinem Vista Testrechner gerade einmal FF2.0.0.18 installiert.

[Talk-de] touchandtravel - Fahrkarte per Handy buchen

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! bei uns habe ich gerade neue Gerätschaften am Bahnhof um per NFC-Technik Fahrkarten mit dem Handy zu buchen. http://www.touchandtravel.com/site/touchandtravel/de/start.html Hat einer schon überlegt die Standort zu mappen und wie diese zu taggen wären ?? vending-machine wäre wohl nicht

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
bitte was ist 25C3 ? gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Fabian -Patzi- Patzke
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: klar, CityGML ist quasi-Standard, aber ich habe bislang noch keine gute Engine dafür gesehen. Ich kenne da bisher nur - Aristoteles (GPL)- http://www.ikg.uni-bonn.de/aristoteles/index.php/Aristoteles - LandXplorer (kostenpflichtig) -

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-11-25 Thread Patrick Kolesa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 25. Chaos Communication Congress 25 + 3xC = 25C3 Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: bitte was ist 25C3 ? gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] 3D-Städte aus OSM-Daten

2008-11-25 Thread Florian Schweikert
2008/11/25 Fabian -Patzi- Patzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tobias Wendorff schrieb: klar, CityGML ist quasi-Standard, aber ich habe bislang noch keine gute Engine dafür gesehen. Ich kenne da bisher nur - Aristoteles (GPL)- http://www.ikg.uni-bonn.de/aristoteles/index.php/Aristoteles -

Re: [Talk-de] OSM und OpenLayer

2008-11-25 Thread Markus
Hallo Olaf, Ist wirklich alles weg? Auch die Layer für z.B. die Parkbänke? Ja. Sichtbar ist die Basiskarte und ein einzelner Marker, der als Marker direkt in der HTML-Seite per OL definiert ist. Die Karte ist in 5 sec geladen. Gestern waren die Grenze (Gemeindegrenze) und der Frankenweg

[Talk-de] Merkwürdigkeiten in Süsel bei Infor mationsfreeway

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! vor einigen Wochen habe ich Süsel / Ostsee (vervollständigt). Nun sieht das plötzlich ganz merkwürdig aus - Straßen fehlen, die Ski-Anlage (nicht von mir) ist schwarz etc. http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=54.08073888200167lon=10.707141864378084zoom=14layers=BF000F Kann das

[Talk-de] [KOSMOS] offline ablegen und bearbeiten

2008-11-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! kann man KOSMOS-Style-Dateien lokal ablegen, bearbeiten und ggf. wieder hochladen Kann mir das einer von Euch ggf. kurz erläutern ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ?war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Sven Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: es hilft jedenfalls jenen, die versuchen in internationale Pl?ne Grenzen reinzumalen Und wie gesagt, in der Hambuger Verfassung steht nicht, das sich das Bundesland aus der Stadt und die Stadt Hamburg sich aus einem Kreis Hamburg zusammensetzt, deshalb

Re: [Talk-de] Da haben wir den Salat..., ??war: Re: Nochmals Grenzen und admin_level

2008-11-25 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Wolfgang W. Wasserburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 11 = Katastralgemeinde (rein vermessungstechnisch, aber meist den Zahlbezirken ubergeordnet) Flasche Baustelle... hatte mir schon vorher die passende Wikipedia-Seite angeschaut und festgestellt, dass die Grenzen der Katastralgemeinden nur sehr

Re: [Talk-de] OSM auf dem 25C3

2008-11-25 Thread Nico Gulden
Hallo Jan, bitte was ist 25C3 ? der Jahreskongress des Chaos Computer Clubs. Golem hat heute [1] dazu was geschrieben. [1] - http://www.golem.de/0811/63758.html Gruß, Nico. -- Nico Gulden E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || Jabber-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024D/B94B8FCB BBC1 D649 BBA7 C1E4 97BC

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