Re: [Talk-transit] JOSM Plugin

2009-08-24 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.dewrote: I would like to add to the map the bus routes of Wuppertal. After starting with a sample (4 out of about 50 routes), it turned out to be a tedious task due to poor tool support. Thus, I'm thinking about writing a

Re: [Talk-transit] JOSM Plugin

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:18, Péter Connell wrote: Wonder if we need some openjourneyplanner thing - obviously a massive task. ... but who owns bus timetables? The argument is raging as we speak This is a great blog post on the subject which shows how hard the agencies are being pushed

[talk-ph] donation to OSMF or OSM-Philippines

2009-08-24 Thread maning sambale
Thanks in part to OSM project, I am getting some bread out of small mapping projects. As a way of giving back, I try to negotiate with the client that portions of the data collected should be donated to OSM. Some agree and I am processing some of it from a recent mapping trip. Another option

Re: [Talk-si] Dovoljenje za uvoz meje

2009-08-24 Thread Igor Brejc
Sem videl, da si se ze zmenil glede morebitnih konfliktov pri SLO-CRO meji... Super :) lpi 2009/8/23 Stefan Baebler stefan.baeb...@gmail.com Ha, pri ogledu obstoječih relacij [1] sem opazil svežo južno mejo, uvoženo iz wikimedie, s prošnjo po izboljšavi:

[OSM-legal-talk] wikitude content

2009-08-24 Thread Joel
Hi, After checking if something like wikitude could be done using OSM content i found some info that made me wonder if wikitude content could be imported into OSM. http://www.wikitude.org/add-content In the 2nd message on this page you'll read With regards to intellectual property, Wiktude.me

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] wikitude content

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 25/8/09, Joel joelheeth...@gmail.com wrote: Doing this would ofcourse be very useful since it would add several thousands of POI's to OSM. If you do end up importing, make sure you check there is no similar POI already in the DB :)

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:53:53 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'd like to start discussion on the deprecation of the Tag:highway=stop in favour

Re: [OSM-talk] Escalators and Travalators

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Stephen Hope wrote: Can I suggest that the documentation for the human conveyor has a section that states clearly that it is not for goods, and pointing to the goods tagging. And maybe the reverse in the other tag. This can and should be done this way. Hopefully, editor preset makers and

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:  stop=first (-1)  stop=last  (yes)  stop=both  (both) Hrmm that is more concise, but I think less self-explanatory (remember that not everyone reads the wiki before editing). E.g. stop=both could be misunderstood to mean

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: What happens at T intersections where there is a stop sign on all ways, and cross intersection with 4 stop signs, the US version of a roundabout effectively. The ways must be split so that they end (or begin) at the

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: The ways must be split so that they end (or begin) at the intersection. (This is required for most of the relation proposals anyway, IIRC.) Then, each way to which a stop sign applies should be tagged with stop=at_last_node

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are from these bots. Would it be possible to reduce the level of spam - one example

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Christiaan Welvaart wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags This proposal does not seem specific enough. Shouldn't it list exactly which simple keys can be modified this way, especially for the :transport mode extension? There is no need to

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread James Livingston
On 24/08/2009, at 8:53 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: I don't like this, because before is arbitrary. If the stop requirement applies to the intersection, I think it should be applied to the intersection itself (either directly or as a member of a relation). I agree that these kind of things should

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 Aug 2009, at 09:35, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are from these bots. Would it

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate TIGER ways along county lines

2009-08-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
When I'm fixing these, I just delete one of the ways in OSM and make sure that all the other connections are correct. It really doesn't matter about the tiger tags. As I don't know where there are county boundaries, I've just been leaving them as is (though occasionally been having to move

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:22 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I liked your suggestion of putting a node just before the intersection and tagging it, making relations and splitting ways sounds like something very convulted just for a stop sign so most people probably won't be

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: It wasn't my suggestion. I don't like the idea of putting a node just before the intersection, because that is arbitrary. If we're tagging an attribute of the way, tag the way - if we're tagging an attribute of the intersection,

[OSM-talk] OSMdoc.com - Tagwatch like interface for viewing tag data

2009-08-24 Thread Lars Francke
Hi! I believe I never officially 'announced' OSMdoc on this mailing list I'd like to do this now: http://osmdoc.com It is a site using a JavaScript interface to view tag usage data. It uses the whole planet and the data can be easily sorted and filtered. That sums it up already. It has some but

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdoc.com - Tagwatch like interface for viewing tag data

2009-08-24 Thread Lars Francke
Of course there is a problem right after announcing it. I know what the problem is and I'll fix it later this day. Unfortunately I had to take the application offline for the time being as it caused heavy load on the database. I'll post again when the problem has been fixed. Sorry! Lars

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Lester Caine
John Smith wrote: --- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: The ways must be split so that they end (or begin) at the intersection. (This is required for most of the relation proposals anyway, IIRC.) Then, each way to which a stop sign applies should be tagged with

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Adding an extra node does make sense, but probably needs a 'relation' to the intersection as well? In any case the direction through this new node is the critical piece of information? Tagging ways would require that every section

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdoc.com - Tagwatch like interface for viewing tag data

2009-08-24 Thread Lars Francke
It's back online. The old version has been online for the last two hours. But now you can view the new data again. I had to limit it a bit though. You can't filter or sort the values for keys which have more than 100.000 distinct values anymore. This shouldn't be a big thing because it mainly

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:00:14 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:53:53 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:48 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'd like to start

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
Shaun McDonald wrote: On 24 Aug 2009, at 09:35, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdoc.com - Tagwatch like interface for viewing tag data

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/24 Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com: It uses the whole planet and the data can be easily sorted and filtered. are you sure it uses the whole planet? I get 2 results for amenity=drinking_water, but I have just in the Rome-area already inserted more than 500 of them. Please check if you

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging continuous flow intersections

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
(I suppose your reply was meant to t...@? If not, sorry for posting it) On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:32:06 +0100, Matt Williams wrote: 2009/8/24 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com: On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:11:59 -0500, David Lynch wrote: I suspect that I'd end up creating a set of ways that look

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread John McKerrell
On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:03, Andrew Ayre wrote: Alexander - I think if you urlencode a URL before passing it to twitter, twitter will automatically shorten it using the bit.ly service. Might be something to look into. Then neither openstreetmap.org or osm.org will be used for the URLs.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdoc.com - Tagwatch like interface for viewing tag data

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/24 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/8/24 Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com: It uses the whole planet and the data can be easily sorted and filtered. are you sure it uses the whole planet? I get 2 results for amenity=drinking_water, but I have just in the Rome-area

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/24 Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com: Alexander - I think if you urlencode a URL before passing it to twitter, twitter will automatically shorten it using the bit.ly service. Might be something to look into. Then neither openstreetmap.org or osm.org will be used for the URLs. it

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Mitja Kleider
Am Montag, 24. August 2009 schrieb John McKerrell: On 24 Aug 2009, at 17:03, Andrew Ayre wrote: Alexander - I think if you urlencode a URL before passing it to twitter, twitter will automatically shorten it using the bit.ly service. Might be something to look into. Then neither

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging continuous flow intersections

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: There's no physical barrier, and the lanes are divided by continuous lines -- that would be a no-changing-lanes restriction, but I'd still be uncomfortable with drawing two separate ways -- that doesn't reflect real

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging continuous flow intersections

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:42:53 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: There's no physical barrier, and the lanes are divided by continuous lines -- that would be a no-changing-lanes restriction, but I'd still be uncomfortable

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging continuous flow intersections

2009-08-24 Thread Konrad Skeri
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:11:59 -0500, David Lynch wrote: I suspect that I'd end up creating a set of ways that look something like this, plus a whole bunch of oneway tags and turn restrictions: http://dl1050.dyndns.org:/images/osm/cfi.png Wouldn't that make routers say turn left and at the

[OSM-talk] Local Chapters Call Today

2009-08-24 Thread Kate Chapman
There was an attempted Local Chapters Working Group call today, Andrew Turner, Vincent Meurisse and myself called in. We think the call needs to be rescheduled, it appears not many people could make it. Is there a better time for those that are interested? From looking at the wiki the time

[OSM-talk] New proposal: Bad data

2009-08-24 Thread wynndale
The new Bad data proposal is a scheme to mark traced aerial photography or maps as out of date or otherwise unreliable so that they can be obscured in editors and users don’t copy details into the OSM database reducing its accuracy. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bad_data

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Alexander Klink
Hi, On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:51:23AM +0100, Shaun McDonald wrote: a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are from these bots. Would it be possible to reduce the level of

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging continuous flow intersections

2009-08-24 Thread David Lynch
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:25, Konrad Skerikon...@skeri.com wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:11:59 -0500, David Lynch wrote: I suspect that I'd end up creating a set of ways that look something like this, plus a whole bunch of oneway tags and turn restrictions:

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Call Today

2009-08-24 Thread Nick Black
Hi Kate + group, There's been a bit of confusion around Local Chapters meetings - I tried to sort out the confusion last week, but clearly did not do a very good job ;-) Sorry if you guys wasted your time today. A lot of the community felt that the best way forward for Local Chapters would be to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Christiaan Welvaart wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags For example, with this proposal it is possible to create both bicycle:backward and oneway:bicycle, while I would really prefer to only have the

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Christiaan Welvaart wrote: In front of a station, there is a road that must not be used by motor vehicles except busses. This road also is an oneway road, with no exceptions. Therefore, I consider it natural to tag this - oneway = yes - (access:)motor_vehicle = no - (access:)bus = yes This

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/22 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - Added a tag for low performance mopeds, because in some countries they are by law neither a bicycle nor a true

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag :highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le lundi 24 août 2009 à 15:25, Lester Caine a écrit : Adding an extra node does make sense, but probably needs a 'relation' to the intersection as well? In any case the direction through this new node is the critical piece of information? Tagging ways would require that every section of a way

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:56, Alexander Klink wrote: Sorry, didn't think about that. I've changed the bot to use osm.org, my bots will use that right away, I hope the other bot owners will update as well. 8-) There currently isn't a shortlink for the browse pages. Instead you'll need to use

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: The exact problem here is that the 'STOP' requirement only relates to the junction with another road and is therefore not a tag of the way or the intersection, but rather information relating to approaching one from the

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:23 AM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I've seen a lot of talk about stop signs, but in Australia there is also give way signs, which can imped flow of traffic similar to stop signs. Replacing stop with give_way (or similar) should do the trick. The

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:32:46 +0200, Renaud MICHEL wrote: Le lundi 24 août 2009 à 15:25, Lester Caine a écrit : Adding an extra node does make sense, but probably needs a 'relation' to the intersection as well? In any case the direction through this new node is the critical piece of

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Call Today

2009-08-24 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 24 de Agosto de 2009, Nick Black escribió: The good news, especially for the patient and keen Locals like Ivan, is that the OSM-F board agreed last Saturday that we could go ahead and start to form local chapters based on a provisional agreement. /me jumps in joy :-D --

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:00 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: So IMHO David's proposal is a good way to avoid the use of a relation - if that is what people want. I personally don't mind relations as they're more explicit and not dependent on way direction. I don't mind relations either, I use lots

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:58 AM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Well, they must IMHO. The wiki explains the ontology of the tags we're using, and the wiki is the main regulamentation for tags. Otherwise we go wild, and everyone uses what she likes best. Yes, but STILL - tags should

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 157

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Norbäck
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:00 +1000 From: Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop        in      favour of Key:stop To: Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID:        

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:16:34 +1000, Roy Wallace wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:58 AM, David Paleinod.pale...@gmail.com wrote: Well, they must IMHO. The wiki explains the ontology of the tags we're using, and the wiki is the main regulamentation for tags. Otherwise we go wild, and

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread David Paleino
People, please *don't* CC me. I'm subscribed to the list. On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:02:30 +0200, Pieren wrote: Tagging a whole way just because you have to stop at the end is a deep modeling mistake. Please, explain why. There is no similarity between the oneway which applies to the way with

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 157

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
2009/8/25 Martin Norbäck mar...@norpan.org: Using a relation has some advantages: * it connects the stop requirement to the junction node (you can look at the junction node to see that there is a stop requirement) * if the way leading to the junction is split/reversed, the relation still

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-24 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote: Tagging a whole way just because you have to stop at the end is a deep modeling mistake. There is no similarity between the oneway which applies to the way with a stop sign which applies to an intersection. I see what you mean,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Maps-l] using default country name

2009-08-24 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/23 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: (1) Default tags can be changed. We should remember that default tags can be edited by somebody later and they will no longer be good for other languages. This fact speaks for both sides of the argument. If some feature's name changes (think, a

[OSM-talk] Stream in a tunnel

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew Ayre
This way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39456905 is marked as layer = -1, tunnel = yes, waterway = stream. I was expecting it to be rendered by Mapnik as a dashed line and paler to indicate it was underground, but I don't see that. Any ideas why? Andy -- Andy PGP Key ID:

Re: [OSM-talk] Stream in a tunnel

2009-08-24 Thread Lennard
Andrew Ayre wrote: This way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39456905 is marked as layer = -1, tunnel = yes, waterway = stream. I was expecting it to be rendered by Mapnik as a dashed line and paler to indicate it was underground, but I don't see that. Any ideas why?

[OSM-talk] XAPI URL for one way by ID?

2009-08-24 Thread Gary68
hi, on API i can GET http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/Id using the same string on XAPI like http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/way/38427403 results in firefox can't find the file... initially I typed http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/way/23328268 (other id,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Rob
Gefeliciteerd Henk! betalen voor osmf lidmaatschap is tegen m'n prinicipes (we doen al genoeg voor osm), anders had je m'n stem gekregen Rob Op 24 augustus 2009 10:25 schreef Lambertus o...@na1400.info het volgende: Gefeliciteerd met je herverkiezing Henk! Alhoewel ik geen OSMF lid ben zou

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Lambertus
Ik vond het voorstel op een andere mailinglijst: dat iedereen met een significante bijdrage automatisch lid is van de OSMF. De drempel tot lid worden is dan lager, alleen mensen die écht interesse voor OSM hebben betrek je op deze manier, mensen zonder de financiele middelen kunnen dan ook hun

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Milo van der Linden
Gefeliciteerd Henk! Ik heb nog een vraag, want ik begreep van jou dat o.a. Nick Black plannen had om een working group of iets gerelateerd te gaan vormen specifiek voor: user experience en de usability oftewel het verlagen van de drempel en het aantrekken van een groter publiek Is al bekend of

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Martijn van Exel
Henk, beter laat dan nooit: Van harte gefeliciteerd met je herverkiezing. Welverdiend wat mij betreft, je inzet voor SOTM09 was fenomenaal en dat is hoe ik je (werk) voornamelijk heb meegemaakt. Ik hoop dat er het komend jaar (nog) meer communicatie vanuit de Foundation, bijvoorbeeld over de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Milo van der Linden
Ik denk dat het negatieve sentiment vooral wordt gevoed door het niet op alle fronten transparant acteren van de OSMF. Wanneer de foundation strikt voor haar doelstelling gaat en ook duidelijk en helder communiceert over haar activiteiten en afgeleide trajecten afketst of naar de community

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Martijn van Exel
Het ging hier niet om een OSMF-interne aangelegenheid, maar om aantijgingen van Ramm jegens Cloudmade: de dubbele petten van Nick en Steve, en het feit dat er zich plotseling een vrij groot aantal Cloudmade-mensen had geregistreerd als lid van de Foundation. Ramm suggereerde dat hier een opzet in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Nederlandstalige walking papers online!

2009-08-24 Thread Roeland Douma
Super Milo! Hij staat er ook tusse op http://www.openstreetmap.nl (als je een betere teksts hebt hoor ik het wel). On Saturday 22 August 2009 21:18:18 Milo van der Linden wrote: http://walking-papers.org/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Milo van der Linden
De OSMF is zich volgens mij goed bewust van het feit dat bewegingen in cloudmade verband met argusogen worden waargenomen. Wat Steve en/of Nick dus hadden kunnen doen was in detail uitleggen waarom er zoveel cloudmade personeel lid ging worden van de foundation met daarbij: - Motivatie voor het

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] map subdomein

2009-08-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rob schreef: map.google.com http://map.google.com map.live.com http://map.live.com map.yahoo.com http://map.yahoo.com ..tile.openstreetmap.com http://tile.openstreetmap.com map of kaart klinkt toch logischer (voor het grote publiek) als

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] map subdomein

2009-08-24 Thread Rob
ik ben ontroerd ;) ligt zeker aan de dns dat dit nog niet werkt hiero ? http://map.openstreetmap.nl/ ps: aandachtspuntje, de favicon van de pagina's op het osm domein slaat ook nergens op.. (iets van vrijschrift?) Rob 2009/8/24 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] map subdomein

2009-08-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rob schreef: ik ben ontroerd ;) Beantwoord je andere mail dan ook eens ;) Ik zit boven het bestel knopje te wachten! ligt zeker aan de dns dat dit nog niet werkt hiero ? http://map.openstreetmap.nl/ Hier doet ie het ;) ps: aandachtspuntje,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Side note: Ik snap trouwens niet waarom de ledenlijst van de OSMF niet openbaar is? Dat de donaties wellicht anoniem worden gehouden vind ik wat anders, maar elk lid is gelijk en kan dus probleemloos worden getoond. Sterker nog, het zou kunnen motiveren om ook lid te worden. Omdat mensen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Roeland Douma
On Monday 24 August 2009 15:18:10 Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Side note: Ik snap trouwens niet waarom de ledenlijst van de OSMF niet openbaar is? Dat de donaties wellicht anoniem worden gehouden vind ik wat anders, maar elk lid is gelijk en kan dus probleemloos worden getoond. Sterker

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Henk Hoff schreef: Dus dat mensen uit arme landen minder lidmaatschapsgeld zouden hoeven te betalen als mensen uit rijke landen. Hierover zouden jullie (OSM-F leden) het komende jaar mogelijk een voorstel voorbij kunnen zien komen Als

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Henk Hoff schreef: 2009/8/24 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Henk Hoff schreef: Dus dat mensen uit arme landen minder lidmaatschapsgeld zouden hoeven te betalen als mensen uit rijke landen. Hierover zouden jullie (OSM-F leden) het komende

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Henk Hoff
Waar het mij om gaat is, dat de leden zelf moeten kunnen bepalen wie hun bestuur wordt. Zie ook de verkiezingen van afgelopen weekend: De leden vonden kennelijk niet dat er meerdere personen van één bedrijf in het bestuur moesten zitten. Kortom, de leden kunnen dit best zelf regelen zonder dat we

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Henk Hoff
Hmmm, ik weet niet precies wat ik hier van moet vinden. ;-) Gr, Henk Op 24 augustus 2009 16:51 schreef Lambertus (o...@na1400.info) het volgende: Offtopic: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Henk, voor een politicus geen sterke bijdrage. Wat? Hoezo verwacht jij van

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread Henk Hoff
Ik wil niet pietluttig doen, maar een naam is ook persoonlijke informatie ;-) Hoe dan ook, we hebben hier te maken met wetgeving die eisen en regels stelt aan het openbaar maken van ledenlijsten. Zie inline. Op 24 augustus 2009 16:16 schreef Milo van der Linden (m...@opengeo.nl) het volgende:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread steggink
Quoting Henk Hoff toffeh...@gmail.com: Ik wil niet pietluttig doen, maar een naam is ook persoonlijke informatie ;-) Hoe dan ook, we hebben hier te maken met wetgeving die eisen en regels stelt aan het openbaar maken van ledenlijsten. Klopt. Om het effe over een heel andere boeg te gooien,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Foundation bestuur

2009-08-24 Thread steggink
Quoting ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: Wél moet helder zijn (bij de verkiezingen) wat de belangen etc van elke kandidaat is/zijn. MOET ? : Dus toch een regeltje ? Het lijkt me eerder dat het in de belang van de kandidaten zelf is dat ze dit doen. Hoe

[OSM-talk-nl] OpenStreetMap Gebruikersdag tijdens Software Freedom Day bij Gendo, Amsterdam?

2009-08-24 Thread Bas
Beste Talk'ers, Dit jaar organiseer ik weer een Software Freedom Day. Deze keer bij Gendo in Amsterdam. Graag wil ik, net als vorig jaar http://softwarefreedom.nl/2008/index.html , daar ook een ruimte beschikbaar maken voor een OpenStreetMap Gebruikersdag. Wordt dat op prijs gesteld? Zie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenStreetMap Gebruikersdag tijdens Software Freedom Day bij Gendo, Amsterdam?

2009-08-24 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Doe maar Bas, Er zijn vast wel een paar luitjes die Wat willen vertellen. Anders gaan we gewoon mappen. Stefan: Heb jij nog een leuk onderwerp ??? Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-nl-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-nl-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Bas Verzonden:

Re: [talk-au] Newbie intro

2009-08-24 Thread Matt White
John Smith wrote: --- On Sun, 23/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: They still don't agree with us, they still think it's just another smoothness option, except for those from Iceland maybe. Don't get me started on the absolute uselessness of the smoothness tag... Matt

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-24 Thread Jason Stirk
2009/8/23 David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.org That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? Big gallah in SA somewhere too (around Kimba? I don't remember...) Big lobster *somewhere*. I know I've seen it, but buggered if I know

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-24 Thread Cameron
Big lobster is in Kingston, SE South Australia. 2009/8/25 Jason Stirk jst...@oobleyboo.com 2009/8/23 David Clarke gadic...@pnambic.org That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? Big gallah in SA somewhere too (around

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-24 Thread geharper
On 23/08/2009 11:55pm, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: That's cutting in to our big attractions. So what're we left with, the big potato, merino, trout and oyster? A good reference for these big attractions is http://www.bigthings.com.au/. I dont' think we would run out anytime

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Call Today

2009-08-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Tue, 25/8/09, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: The good news, especially for the patient and keen Locals like Ivan, is that the OSM-F board agreed last Saturday that we could go ahead and start to form local chapters based on a provisional agreement.  The board felt - and I hope

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-24 Thread BOUNDY,Paul
My Dad knew the guy who made the big lobster. Although that has no relevance to this discussion, I'd just like to claim my non existent fame. regards Paul :) From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Cameron

Re: [Talk-de] Vorschlag: Wiki-Artikel für Fahrradkno tenpunkt

2009-08-24 Thread Adiac
Am Montag 24 August 2009 07:39:33 schrieb Adiac: Vorschlag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Cycle_routes/bicyclejunction Ich bin gerade auf DE:Bicycle gestoßen und ändere meinen Vorschlag in: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/bicyclejunction

Re: [Talk-de] Eiskaffee?

2009-08-24 Thread Adiac
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 20:22:53 schrieb Tobias Wendorff: amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream name=Eiscafé ... Ok, danke ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Noch ein kurioses Schild...

2009-08-24 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, am 23.08.2009 21:03 schrieb Torsten Leistikow: Moin, etwas eigene Schilderkombinationen findet man beim Mappen ja ab und an. Letztens ist mir folgendes begegnet: in den vergangenen Tagen sind hier viele schöne Kuriositäten durchgerauscht. Schade, dass das nicht im Wiki

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweisen/Abkürzungen von Straße nnamen

2009-08-24 Thread Sven Anders
Am Sonntag, 23. August 2009 20:08:56 schrieb Tobias Wendorff: Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Was tun wir denn, wenn sowohl das Straßenschild, wie auch die behördliche Liste eine Abkürzung vorsieht? Ausgeschrieben taggen? Nach dem Treffen mit AEROWEST ist meine Meinung zu den behördlichen

Re: [Talk-de] Eiskaffee?

2009-08-24 Thread Alexander Klink
Hi Adiac, On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 08:03:07PM +0200, Adiac wrote: Ich habe im Wiki kein Eiskaffe gefunden. Gibt’s sowas? amenity = ice_cream ist ein proposed feature, dass ich gerne verwenden. Denn es geht da ja primär darum, dass dort Eis verkauft wird, und nicht dass dort Kaffee verkauft wird

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweisen/Abkürzungen von Straß ennamen

2009-08-24 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Bernd Wurst schrieb: old_name Wird vom aktuellen Namefinder auch gefunden: name:former findet der nicht? Dann muss ich was umtaggen... -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweisen/Abkürzungen von Straße nnamen

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
Sven Anders wrote: Kommt vielleicht auch darauf an, welcher Teil abgekürzt ist bei z.B. Bahnhofstr. gibt es wohl keine zwei Meinungen wie die Straße heißen soll, 1) Bahnhofstr. 2) Bahnhofsstr. 3) Am Bahnhof 4) Bahnhof 5) Zum Bahnhof ... Schönen Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweisen/Abkürzungen von Straße nnamen

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: old_name Wird vom aktuellen Namefinder auch gefunden: name:former findet der nicht? Dann muss ich was umtaggen... Würde mich wundern, wenn er es fände. Ist doch nirgends dokumentiert. Und da old_name seit März 2006 (!) im Wiki beschrieben ist und tausende

Re: [Talk-de] Wasserschutzgebiet

2009-08-24 Thread André Riedel
Am 22. August 2009 17:49 schrieb Norbert Kück o...@nk-bre.net: am 22.08.2009 16:16 schrieb André Riedel: Ich denke das ganze passt in den Gefahrguttransportbereich, ich würde daher hazmat:water=* vorschlagen. In der Beschreibung ist es ausdrücklich erlaubt, verschiedene Abstuffungen einzubauen

Re: [Talk-de] Schreibweisen/Abkürzungen von Straße nnamen

2009-08-24 Thread Sven Anders
Am Montag, 24. August 2009 08:47:58 schrieb Martin Trautmann: Sven Anders wrote: Kommt vielleicht auch darauf an, welcher Teil abgekürzt ist bei z.B. Bahnhofstr. gibt es wohl keine zwei Meinungen wie die Straße heißen soll, 1) Bahnhofstr. 2) Bahnhofsstr. 3) Am Bahnhof 4) Bahnhof 5)

[Talk-de] collection_times - mit perl brauchbar zerlegen

2009-08-24 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! hat einer von euch schon einmal das tag *collection_times mit perl so zerlegt das man daraus eine tabelle aufbauen könnte ?? Gruß Jan :-) * ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Vorschlag: Wiki-Artikel für Fahrradkno tenpunkt

2009-08-24 Thread Adiac
Am Montag 24 August 2009 07:39:33 schrieb Adiac: Grund: Ich würde im Anschluss daran zwei JOSM-Vorlagen hinzufügen für den Wegweiser und der Karte. Das habe ich testweise schon gemacht. Vier neue Gruppen stehen in den JOSM-Einstellungen zur Verfügung. Sicherlich nicht perfekt, aber ein Anfang.

Re: [Talk-de] Eiskaffee?

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am Mo, 24.08.2009, 08:41 schrieb Alexander Klink: amenity = ice_cream ist ein proposed feature, dass ich gerne verwenden. Denn es geht da ja primär darum, dass dort Eis verkauft wird, und nicht dass dort Kaffee verkauft wird ... Kaffee ist das Getränk, Café das Geschäft. Darum geben wir

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