Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to the list of required fields. Good stuff - I have been through my local area with a cleanup pass of and it has helped find a number of issues. I will do other parts of the

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Loach
I forgot to say when I was asking about bus shelters how much I like the changes as they are. It works so much better in this area to let me see which I've verified, even if they aren't green (I'm tempted to just pull all the local bus stop nodes without the naptan:verified key, and without a

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Thread Christoph Böhme
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes are defined: 1. The original Birmingham one 2. Chris Hill's colour scheme

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Oct 2009, at 22:49, Christoph Böhme wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to the list of required fields. Good stuff - I have been through my local

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Thread Christoph Böhme
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: I've updated Novam. It now supports multiple colour schemes and also highlights errors in the tagging of stops. At the moment three colour schemes

Re: [Talk-hr] Report on Mappers by Country Editing (2009-09-30)

2009-10-28 Thread delorayn1
ps. gdje su ti ljudi? nema ih na ovoj listi (lurkeri?) a ni pod journalima ih bas ne vidim. he he he, ima nas :) ja sam tu, ali samo čitam, nemam ništa pametno za napisati :) ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-hr] Report on Mappers by Country Editing (2009-09-30)

2009-10-28 Thread nixa
Bitno da oni rade :) Gledam bas Nasice i usporedjujem s Gelin-om. Bome smo znatno bolji :) Valent Turkovic wrote: Vrlo lijepo, da me netko pitao ne bih rekao da nas ima više od 10-15, pa me ova brojka vrlo lijepo i ugodno iznenadila. ps. gdje su ti ljudi? nema ih na ovoj listi (lurkeri?) a

[Talk-hr] Ima li zagoraca?

2009-10-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
Povodom ovog clanka: Californian county fined for not releasing data - http://bit.ly/oCdun Zanima me ima li tu zagoraca? Zasto? Pa ako se obratimo geodetskom zavodu te ako odbiju podijeliti podatke koje su s novcima poreznih obveznika napravili da ih prepustimo zagorcima da ih tuže :) Šala

[Talk-hr] Označavanje cesta u HR....Pono vo po x-ti put.

2009-10-28 Thread Marjan Vrban
Evo malo sam uvatio vremena pa slažem ceste prema onoj birokratskoj shemi, za koju mislim da ju je prihvatila većina? Jel to izglasano ili šta da se wiki već sredi, i da imamo pravila kartiranja za RH. Evo mog prijedloga, može ići i u wiki ako se slažete: 1. primary - državne 2. secondary -

[Talk-hr] OSM API za staticne karte

2009-10-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
Ovo je stvarno falilo, super sto smo sada dobili i ove cool API feature: http://old-dev.openstreetmap.org/~pafciu17/ -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What should be considered legal?

2009-10-28 Thread rhn
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Thanks. The reason I asked that was that I frequently forget where the GPS trace was taken - was it a road or a track, which village or whatever else. This usually happens in areas where OSM map is pitch white :) Yahoo maps aren't very helpful there either.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: you'd happily support distributing the data under a license which is not likely to protect it? I happily support the status quo, where map data is freely available under CC share-alike terms, and I see no evidence of evil mapmakers copying it with impunity. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ed, I don't quite follow your logic. You seem to be saying: 1. there is no proof that CC-BY-SA doesn't work; 2. there is danger that anything based on contract law weakens the protection we have for our data (because breach of contract doesn't give us a strong handle) 3. you accept that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: you'd happily support distributing the data under a license which is not likely to protect it? I happily support the status quo, where map data is freely available under CC share-alike terms,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: I happily support the status quo, where map data is freely available under CC share-alike terms, and I see no evidence of evil mapmakers copying it with impunity. absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, and so forth If someone is taking OSM data and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Frederik Ramm frede...@... writes: You seem to be saying: 1. there is no proof that CC-BY-SA doesn't work; 2. there is danger that anything based on contract law weakens the protection we have for our data (because breach of contract doesn't give us a strong handle) 3. you accept that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ed Avis wrote: if we carry on licensing CC BY-SA we may get to the state where CC BY-SA is challenged. if the challenge is in the US, i think there's a good chance of OSMF losing, Would that be such a disaster? If such a precedent were set, then any factual data derived from OSM would

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: If someone is taking OSM data and misusing it secretly, then they would be able to continue doing that whatever licence was chosen.  So we only need to consider cases where a violation becomes publicly known. my point was more like there's no evidence yet. just

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: Dr Evil doesn't need an unlimited legal budget - he just needs to live in a country where non-creative data isn't copyrightable. ...and in a country where it is crystal clear that the OSM data is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:  Even if you agree that CC-BY-SA is less than ideal, It's not less than ideal. It's dreadful. The OSMF license team have created a document explaining why. We've had lawyers confirming that it probably doesn't work. Even the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Remember, though, that there are huge transaction costs associated with any licence switch.  Even if you agree that CC-BY-SA is less than ideal, it might be better than deleting big chunks out of the database and alienating

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andy Allan wrote: That is, Creative Commons have advised us, and everyone else, to not use CCBYSA for data. It doesn't come more plain than that. I would very much appreciate if *everyone* who invokes Creative Commons saying that CC-BY-SA is not suitable for data would also add the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I'm not saying that Creative Commons are always right, but trying to make it sound as if they were endorsing OdBL is a bit heavy. I'm not sure where I mentioned the OdBL? I'm just trying to make the point to Ed that his

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: there has been some FUD about these deletions of data. let me say it here: no data will be deleted. if the re-licensing goes ahead then all of the data that everyone has contributed would be made available through dumps. Right. I think everyone understands that,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I'd be a lot more persuaded if there were evidence of a real, occurring problem rather than a theoretical one. [snip] Or in other words, you still believe the the CC-BY-SA license is fine, all the re-licensing stuff isn't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Tom Hughes
On 28/10/09 14:40, Ed Avis wrote: But strong claims require strong evidence. To claim that CC-BY-SA is 'dreadful' requires, IMHO, evidence of real rather than theoretical cases where it's holding back the goal of free map data. You might tell me that the fence around my field is completely

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: we at the LWG have been working very hard to produce the license that we think the majority of OSM contributors want. a large amount of previous discussion on this and the talk MLs has suggested

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ed Avis wrote: In general, the ideal licence would not need to be fully watertight in all jurisdictions, but only strong enough to provide a good deterrent in practice for most individuals and companies. What would you want to deter them from? Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Tom Hughes t...@... writes: But strong claims require strong evidence. To claim that CC-BY-SA is 'dreadful' requires, IMHO, evidence of real rather than theoretical cases where it's holding back the goal of free map data. You might tell me that the fence around my field is completely

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: let's say, for a moment, that CC BY-SA definitely doesn't work and isn't an option. what would you do? if you'd move to a new license, which license? I would prefer one which is CC-compatible,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: In my ideal ponies world the database itself would be CC-compatible, so people could generate excerpts ('list of all pubs in Swindon') and include that in CC works. would the list of all pubs in Swindon be a database, or a produced work? if it's included,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: these sites are in non-compliance with the license http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution Would switching to ODBL (or any licence) solve this particular problem? in any case, it's not useful to talk about people stealing the data - anyone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: let's assume some data are taken and modified and used to generate tiles. the ODbL would require that the modified data are made available, regardless of the license of the tiles. if the data were effectively-PD then there would be no requirement to make the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On 10/28/09, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: let's assume some data are taken and modified and used to generate tiles. the ODbL would require that the modified data are made available, regardless of the license of the tiles. if the data were effectively-PD then

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On 10/28/09, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: these sites are in non-compliance with the license http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution Would switching to ODBL (or any licence) solve this particular problem? quite possibly, since ODbL

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping islands question

2009-10-28 Thread Maarten Deen
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:47:38 -0400, Joe Pranevich jpranev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to fix Hutchinson Island, Florida ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.526lon=-80.2964zoom=14layers=B000FTF) and the main issue is that the island's coastlines were very wrong. (Roads off the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping islands question

2009-10-28 Thread StilgarBF
My last Changes appeared in Mapnik after 3 Weeks. The last Update was at the end of last Week, the one before on 3rd of Okt. so you still may have to wait more then 2 Weeks. Stil Joe Pranevich schrieb: Hello, I'm trying to fix Hutchinson Island, Florida

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping islands question

2009-10-28 Thread Joe Pranevich
Hello, Yeah. Looks like an edit conflict or something as my nicely redrawn coastline for that part of the map has reverted. Oh well. I'll do it again. (But I did that last night, well after my first email. I didn't want to spend any more time on it until I understood why my changes weren't

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/28 Lesi l...@lesi.is-a-geek.net how do you define main area? Aren't the shafts vertical access / ventilation shafts that lead to the inner mine? IMHO that defines them as part of the mine (and indicates that they should be comprised). The main area is the area where all the

[OSM-talk] Call for Projects on CBIT

2009-10-28 Thread wer-ist-roger
Hej everyone, I just read on the german Heise-Online that CBIT is looking for free open source projects for a tall free booth. Projects have to apply till the 20th of November. Since we are a free and open project I was thinking that OSM should apply for one of those free boothes on the

[OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread John Callahan
I have some polygon data (building footprints) and point data (places of interest) that I'd like to get into OSM. I've played around with Potlatch over the years, and have plenty of GIS and IT experience, but want to get more involved in contributing to OSM. For the polygons, there are about

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:57 PM, John Callahan john.calla...@udel.edu wrote: I have some polygon data (building footprints) and point data (places of interest) that I'd like to get into OSM. John, have you read the import wiki page? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import The #1 most

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Ian Dees
For now, there are two options. One us a python script written by chris schmidt. The other is a java app written by me. The python one is called shp2osm. It requires a bit of programming knowhow and some dependency magic, but it allows you to convert a little more programmatically. The

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread John Callahan
Ian/Serge, Thanks for the pointers. It didn't hit until I read the wiki pages you referred to that editing is inherently different than importing, and that what I am doing is really bulk importing. And the idea is to first convert to .osm format locally, then upload to OSM. I'll look more

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:38 PM, John Callahan john.calla...@udel.eduwrote: Ian/Serge, Thanks for the pointers. It didn't hit until I read the wiki pages you referred to that editing is inherently different than importing, and that what I am doing is really bulk importing. And the idea is

[OSM-talk] Bids open for 2010 State of the Map

2009-10-28 Thread Hurricane
It's that time of year again! To plan for the next bigger and better State of the Map Conference. Suggesting a location is easy! You don't have to represent your whole country, nor do you have to have all the questions answered... that's what the community is for! Check out the bid

[OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)

2009-10-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
Please check out this great blog post from Romanian OSM mappers: http://snipurl.com/svk0b Ever since I saw great ITO World animation Year of Edits I wanted to make my own version. This look like it is possible. Just look at the Bulgarian OSM mappers blog post. So in order to make this work

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)

2009-10-28 Thread Ciprian Talaba
Hi Valent, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Please check out this great blog post from Romanian OSM mappers: http://snipurl.com/svk0b Ever since I saw great ITO World animation Year of Edits I wanted to make my own version. This look like

[OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf,

[OSM-talk] Fwd: loading geotiff to osm editors

2009-10-28 Thread maning sambale
Big thanks to Andy for helping us create slippy map tiles from a donated highres images in Pangasinan, Philippines. Anyone can start tracing roads and other features using any osm editor. Estimated bbox:

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( In some countries factual information is a legal source for derived data. Stefan

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODBL enforcement: contract law and remedies

2009-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On 10/28/09, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: we had a long thread on this a couple of weeks ago (ODbL virality questions) from which i think the consensus was that linking OSM data with data from independent sources

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Russ Nelson
John Callahan writes: Something I'm missing, once the data is in osm format, how do I get it into OSM? Can I continue to edit the osm manually, such as with a background image/WMS service? Is this where importing turns into editing and I should use JOSM, etc...? I've had good

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Ulf Lamping
Stefan de Konink schrieb: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( In some countries factual information is a legal source

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Russ Nelson
Valent Turkovic writes: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( A couple of points: o Copyright gets infringed typically. Criminal copyright is a much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Dave F.
Stefan de Konink wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Valent Turkovic wrote: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( In some countries factual information is a legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Valent Turkovic writes: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=40148 what to do with OSM mappers like these guys in this post? They say that they are using Google Earth images :( A couple of points:

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: For now, there are two options. One us a python script written by chris schmidt. The other is a java app written by me. For the record, both tools are great, but very different. I like them both and because I need features

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-10-28 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Dave F. wrote: Do you have a list of countries where this is possible? No list; but this paper will enlight you ;) http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1051context=library_papers So, are you saying that someone in Canada for instance could trace areas

Re: [OSM-talk] importing shapefile data to OSM

2009-10-28 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, For the communities sake, i'd recommend converting the shp file into .osm (from which ever script you like shp-to-osm or shp2osm). Make these files available storing them on some website (i use mediafire.com) drop.io is good too, or have someone donate space on a server to do so, will help.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ciprian Talaba wrote: As I mentioned on my blog I will try to write a more detailed tutorial about this, but it will take me a few days probably. I don't understand where the git repository comes in? I mean we do have an archive of old planet files already, it's not that stuffing them

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Projects on CBIT

2009-10-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, wer-ist-roger wrote: I just read on the german Heise-Online that CBIT is looking for free open source projects for a tall free booth. Projects have to apply till the 20th of November. Since we are a free and open project I was thinking that OSM should apply for one of those free

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-ca] Sam's summery essay (was Re: Correcting Geobase_import_2009)

2009-10-28 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, James did a good summery explaining the concept of 'social impact of Bulk Importing', perhaps better than i did. Just substitute the word 'geobase' for 'the data source', and it really can apply internationally. And suffixing it with the assumption that the geobase-source-file.osm is

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-10-28 Thread Taede's hotmail
Hoi, Ik wil dit ook wel eens proberen - lekker Friese understatement! - en kan denk ik alle drie de data Groeten, Taede -Original Message- From: talk-nl-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-nl-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Henk Hoff Sent: dinsdag 27 oktober 2009 14:01 To:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Derde Amsterdamse MappersBabbel

2009-10-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Reminder: Dat is dus vanavond! Tot vanavond, Floris Martijn van Exel wrote: Ik stel voor volgende woensdag in de Pijp, hoe klinkt dat? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Amsterdam#Derde_Amsterdamse_MappersBabbel Martijn martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Derde Amsterdamse MappersBabbel

2009-10-28 Thread Martijn van Exel
Tip: je kunt bij FONK trouwens ook prima eten voor niet al te veel geld. martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2009/10/28 Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu Reminder: Dat is dus vanavond! Tot vanavond, Floris Martijn van Exel wrote: Ik stel

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Derde Amsterdamse MappersBabbel

2009-10-28 Thread Martijn van Exel
Tip 2: Ze hebben draadloos internet. Het wachtwoord is vziw verkrijgbaar aan de bar. martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2009/10/28 Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com Tip: je kunt bij FONK trouwens ook prima eten voor niet al te veel geld.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Derde Amsterdamse MappersBabbel

2009-10-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
mooi, dat probeerde ik al uit te vinden via de site. ik ben er om ongeveer 18.30, iemand die mee wil eten? groet, floris Martijn van Exel wrote: Tip: je kunt bij FONK trouwens ook prima eten voor niet al te veel geld. martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel

[OSM-talk-nl] poi export v 1.0

2009-10-28 Thread Milo van der Linden
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/utils/export/poiexport Wil je deze versie downloaden en op je eigen server uitproberen; doe dan: (op linux) svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/export/poiexport/ poiexport heeft nodig: - php5 - toegang tot een postgis

[OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread bas de Lange
Beste Talk'ers, Ik zie dat er nu ook een projekt is om liftplaatsen (CC-BY-SA) op de kaart te zetten: http://maps.hitchwiki.org/ -- Met vriendelijke groet, Bas de Lange http://www.basdelange.com -- Best regards, Bas de Lange http://www.basdelange.com

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Derde Amsterdamse MappersBabbel

2009-10-28 Thread Roeland Douma
Uiteraard heb ik ook weer mijn GPG keyslips mee! On Wednesday 28 October 2009 09:51:04 Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Reminder: Dat is dus vanavond! Tot vanavond, Floris Martijn van Exel wrote: Ik stel voor volgende woensdag in de Pijp, hoe klinkt dat?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Milo van der Linden
Doneren wij hen alle tankstations en parkeerplaatsen, kunnen zei de liftplaatsen info doneren. Is de SA ook meteen afgedekt ;-) bas de Lange schreef: Beste Talk'ers, Ik zie dat er nu ook een projekt is om liftplaatsen (CC-BY-SA) op de kaart te zetten: http://maps.hitchwiki.org/

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Rik de Landloper
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:01 +0100, Milo van der Linden m...@opengeo.nl wrote: Doneren wij hen alle tankstations en parkeerplaatsen, kunnen zei de liftplaatsen info doneren. Is de SA ook meteen afgedekt ;-) Het lijkt me niet zo zinvol om iets arbitrairs als een 'liftplaats' op OSM te zetten.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 28/10/09 16:21 +0100 - Rik de Landloper: Het lijkt me niet zo zinvol om iets arbitrairs als een 'liftplaats' op OSM te zetten. Tankstations en parkeerplaatsen zijn fysiek herkenbaar, [...] Ik ben niet zo van de me-too's, maar toch: me too! Een kaart met daarop de liftplaatsen gemarkeerd

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Roeland Douma
Mash-up lijkt me het magische woord hier. --Roeland On Wednesday 28 October 2009 16:37:02 Rejo Zenger wrote: ++ 28/10/09 16:21 +0100 - Rik de Landloper: Het lijkt me niet zo zinvol om iets arbitrairs als een 'liftplaats' op OSM te zetten. Tankstations en parkeerplaatsen zijn fysiek

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Me three! * I disapprove of this proposal gr, floris Rejo Zenger wrote: ++ 28/10/09 16:21 +0100 - Rik de Landloper: Het lijkt me niet zo zinvol om iets arbitrairs als een 'liftplaats' op OSM te zetten. Tankstations en parkeerplaatsen zijn fysiek herkenbaar, [...] Ik ben niet zo van de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Martijn van Exel
rotfl! Ik hoor dat we zo'n ding krijgen in Noord, bij de herinrichting van het Mosveld - misschien dat proposal heropenen... martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2009/10/28 Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu Over mislukte proposals gesproken:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hitchwiki - worldwide map for hitchhiking places

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Smits
Ik ben het ermee eens dat een kaart met daarop liftplaatsen iets is wat gemaakt wordt *met* de informatie van OSM. Maar er zijn in Nederland enkele officiële liftershaltes die opzich prima als liftplaats in OSM kunnen staan lijkt me. Ik heb zelfs een plaatje gevonden :D

[OSM-talk-nl] 'Aanraken' van AND import data.

2009-10-28 Thread Eric A
Ik ben nu al een half jaartje aan het mappen voor OSM. Vooral bosgebieden met mijn mountainbike, maar ook ontbrekende straten/gebouwen/gebieden rond Groningen en elders als ik er kom. Nu zag ik in een eerdere mailing dat alle AND import 'aangeraakt' zou moeten worden. Hier heb ik een paar vraagjes

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 'Aanraken' van AND import data.

2009-10-28 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Eric A wrote: 1. Wat houdt aanraken in. Moet je de nodes aangeklikt hebben, of moeten er ook wijzigingen aan gemaakt worden. Vooral eens kijken of de data uberhaupt klopt :) 2. Meestal staan er twee sleutels van AND bij een weg: AND_nosr_r en AND_importance_level. Wat

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 'Aanraken' van AND import data.

2009-10-28 Thread Andre Engels
2009/10/28 Eric A ericalbe...@gmail.com: 1. Wat houdt aanraken in. Moet je de nodes aangeklikt hebben, of moeten er ook wijzigingen aan gemaakt worden. Om als aangeraakt te gelden, moeten er wijzigingen zijn; het aanraken is echter geen doel op zich - waar het om gaat, is dat er iemand gekeken

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mapping-event in Notter

2009-10-28 Thread Henk Hoff
Voor het event in Notter (Rijssen) is een aparte aanmeldpagina. Graag daar even je naam achterlaten wanneer je van plan bent te komen. https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=nlformkey=dE9hYkxSeGtINE0yVW9pdUF6ZVhBOHc6MA Hoort en zegt het voort ;-) Groet, Henk Hoff Op 27 oktober 2009 16:20

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OpenStreetMap POI export (beta) released

2009-10-28 Thread Rob
2009/10/27 malenki o...@malenki.ch: Am Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:17:14 +0100 schrieb Rob r...@opengeo.nl: [This mail was kindly re-posted and translated on talk-de.] Thanks for that nice tool. Hopfully it will boost interests in OSM, too. :) Mochten er nog poi types zijn die je mist, of andere

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-10-28 Thread Henk Hoff
Op 28 oktober 2009 22:33 heeft paul van den berg paulbvdb...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:15 +0100 Henk Hoff h...@toffehoff.nl wrote: Hallo, In het kader van mapping-parties leek het me ook wel eens goed dat er eentje in het noorden van ons land gehouden

[talk-au] BigTinCan Maps tiles not updating?

2009-10-28 Thread Luke Woolley
I'm just wondering what is happening with the BigTinCan maps site. The Australian rendering layer has not been updating tiles for at least a fortnight? I have been progressively upgrading Melbourne's roads to the new ref relations so they will correctly render as the should on a map, but I

Re: [talk-au] BigTinCan Maps tiles not updating?

2009-10-28 Thread John Smith
2009/10/28 Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com: I'm just wondering what is happening with the BigTinCan maps site. The Australian rendering layer has not been updating tiles for at least a fortnight? I have been progressively upgrading Melbourne's roads to the new ref relations so they will

Re: [talk-au] [Talk-ca] Sam's summery essay (was Re: Correcting Geobase_import_2009)

2009-10-28 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, James did a good summery explaining the concept of 'social impact of Bulk Importing', perhaps better than i did. Just substitute the word 'geobase' for 'the data source', and it really can apply internationally. And suffixing it with the assumption that the geobase-source-file.osm is

Re: [Talk-br] Mais uma apresentação

2009-10-28 Thread Ricardo Padilha
Alguns comentários: 2009/10/28 Ulf Mehlig ulf.meh...@gmx.net: Por que evitar unclassified?! É simplesmente um tag para ruas/estradas que não tem denominação oficial (em contraste a primary, secondary e tertiary), e que não são residenciais ... Deve ser a maioria das ruas em muitos lugares!

Re: [Talk-br] Mais uma apresentação

2009-10-28 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Concordo contigo -- a tua observação sobre o tráfego e as implicações para o roteamento através do GPS coincidem com o que eu queria dizer com função das estradas. E é claro que o que seria secondary etc. depende um pouco do avaliador. O exemplo para estradas sem asfalto etc. coloquei justamente

Re: [Talk-is] Aðstoðið við að þýða Open StreetMap vefsíðuna, Potlatch og JOSM

2009-10-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2009/10/18 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: 2009/10/1 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: Það er nú hægt að þýða OpenStreetMap vefsíðuna og Potlatch á Translatewiki:    http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap Ég er búinn að þýða Potlatch ritilinn 100%. Það væri

Re: [Talk-de] Stuttgart - keine Radwege in der Autostadt ?

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Simon
Am 28. Oktober 2009 03:56 schrieb Karl Eichwalder k...@gnu.franken.de: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: es denn Sinn, einen kombinierten Fahrrad/Reitweg als Reitweg zu Hast du so etwas schon einmal gesehen? Einfach mal weniger posten, wenn ... Auch wenn ich der 'falsche'

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrsinformationen auf OSM-Karte

2009-10-28 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:13:08AM +0100, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 2009/10/27 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org: Eine idee statt das manuell zu machen ware auch die LCLs an die objekte zu packen und wie beim Tiger import zur verifikation noch zusatztags dran die dann geloescht werden wenn es

Re: [Talk-de] Benelux: OpenStreetMap POI export (beta) released

2009-10-28 Thread Rotbarsch
Zitat von Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Die Hollaender sind ziemlich ruehrig, ich finde es gut, dass Du da zuguckst, was die so machen ;-) die haben schon lange ihren eigenen Tile-Server und basteln auch sonst einige interessante Sachen. Ja, wirklich nett. Auch z.B. die Wanderkarte mit

Re: [Talk-de] Verkehrsinformationen auf OSM-Karte

2009-10-28 Thread Steffen Wolf
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: diese Website zeigt aktuelle Verkehrsinformationen auf einer OSM-Karte (laut Information auf der Website): http://www.freiefahrt.info/ Komisches Datenmaterial. Es ist eindeutig OSM, ich erkenn ein paar Knicks in den Strassen, aber wenn man so weit reinzoomt, dass die

Re: [Talk-de] Algorithmus für effiziente PLZ-Gebiete gesucht

2009-10-28 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:11:08PM +0100, Marcus Wolschon wrote: 2009/10/26 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Momentan denke ich darüber nach disjunkte, konvexe Hüllen über alle Elemente welche innerhalb eines Staates den gleichen Wert in addr:postcode bzw postal_code haben zu bilden.

[Talk-de] JOSM - Windows7 fähig?

2009-10-28 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! kann einer schon etwas dazu sagen, ob unsere Programme auf Win7 laufen Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Algorithmus für effiziente PLZ-Gebiete g esucht

2009-10-28 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:09:07 +0100, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Ich hab das mit Voronoi mal gemacht. Für die Statistik-Sprache R gibts da Code. Und für PostGIS gibts ein R-Plugin. Anleitung dazu gibts irgendwo im Web. Grundsätzlich kommen, wenn zumindest ein paar Punkte mit PLZ

Re: [Talk-de] discOSM: online- und offline-Version verf ügbar

2009-10-28 Thread Sven Geggus
Lars Lingner lars.ling...@fossgis.de wrote: Ich habs versucht. Aber die Attributwerte haben doch eine große Varianz :) hier ein Auszug: 0,2 0.2 0.20 0,3 0.3 0.3m 0,4 0.4 0.40m 0.4m 0,5 0.5 0.50m 0.5m 0.5 m 0,5 to 1,2 Deutsche Kommas sind Unfug, damit kann der Osmarender

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM - Windows7 fähig?

2009-10-28 Thread Paul Baumbach
kann einer schon etwas dazu sagen, ob unsere Programme auf Win7 laufen Also JOSM läuft mit den Plugins, die ich drin habe, problemlos unter Win7. Java sei dank ;) Grüße, Paul ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Standort Briefkasten

2009-10-28 Thread André Riedel
Am 26. Oktober 2009 06:55 schrieb Johannes Hüsing johan...@huesing.name: Tobias Wendorff schrieb: Am So, 25.10.2009, 23:08 schrieb Ropino: Falko Thomale schrieb: Wenn wir die Standortbezeichnungen vereinheitlichen wollen, dann würde ich das Operator-Tag auf jeden Fall auch mit

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