On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:59:53 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
For tagging the status of rail infrastructure there are in use:
I usually think it's good to look at existing practice by others.
On USGS maps, and in US legal usage:
out of service: rails still exist, but no trains. shown as
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:31:53 +0200, Michał Borsuk wrote:
On 28 July 2010 11:26, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
Something like http://forum.openstreetmap.org
Definitely. Forum is way better than a mailing list, a threaded forum is
even better.
[citation needed]. There's nothing a
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:03:59 +0200, Michał Borsuk wrote:
Just a technical note, we'd need a server with some proper Forum-like
software, so that posts like the one below could be pinned.
Why not just update the wiki? Why needlessly complicate things with a
forum?
Hi guys,
I recently contacted a user who added a node for Santuario de San Antonio
even though a polygon exists for it:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39724055
He said that the church wasn't showing up in the Garmin map and that's why
he added that node.
Anybody else having problems
I stumbled upon a problem: Megadike road and Angeles-Porac road have been,
er, cut:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.10021lon=120.55422zoom=15layers=M
I wonder who did this?
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Last editor before me was DY3JDR. Reverted now.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23937361/history
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com wrote:
I stumbled upon a problem: Megadike road and Angeles-Porac road have been,
er, cut:
The official garmin codes doesn't support polygons for
amenity=place_of_worship. I'm still looking for a suitable code to
recycle.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,
I recently contacted a user who added a node for Santuario de San Antonio
Hi Elliot,
For me, yes and yes but. I mapped most of central Sydney myself
originally and am delighted. Your use clearly indicates two separate
layers which the community says is OK, you don't need to share alike
the 3D model ... though perhaps you can consider it? As for the
credits,
Anthony o...@... writes:
There isn't a switch to ODbL. Just a (not very practical IMHO) plan to do so
at some point in the future,
Did you see my addendum? I don't trust the OSMF to properly remove
all of my work and derivatives of my work if/when they stop releasing
those derivatives under
Anthony,
Anthony wrote:
I don't trust the OSMF to properly remove
all of my work and derivatives of my work if/when they stop releasing
those derivatives under CC-BY-SA.
In December last year we had a guy also called Anthony on legal-talk who
said:
I live in the United States, where
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Frederik Ramm frede...@... writes:
By the way, the database right exists - in certain jurisdictions like
the EU - even if it is not asserted. That means, OSMF is likely to hold
database rights over the database even today. But
Ed Avis wrote:
Anthony writes:
I'm currently working on a fork.
I'm still hopeful that people will find some compromise, and it won't be
needed. (Myself I would be quite happy if the project chose a dual
licence.) But if a fork proves necessary, I'll be happy to help.
My impression
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Anthony,
Anthony wrote:
I don't trust the OSMF to properly remove
all of my work and derivatives of my work if/when they stop releasing
those derivatives under CC-BY-SA.
In December last year we had a guy also called
On 9 August 2010 23:11, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Alternatively, you could perhaps contribute to CommonMap (commonmap.info)
who are not a fork of OSM but acknowledge OSM as inspiration and are not
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Ed Avis wrote:
Anthony writes:
I'm currently working on a fork.
I'm still hopeful that people will find some compromise, and it won't be
needed. (Myself I would be quite happy if the project chose a dual
I have been away from the grand fray for several weeks due to
personal matters and have been catching up with threads on this
list. One question, I think from Liz, was who decided to remove
data. That got me thinking as there was never any explicit decision
point. Therefore I have a question
On 10 August 2010 01:29, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
they exert their original copyright and request us to do so? A common
mantra is that copyright does not mean much unless exerted. Views?
Precedents?
This is a slippery slope, and it would give precedent to what ever
comes next
Heiko,
Heiko Jacobs wrote:
If you really consider your contributions to be in the public domain
then good news for you: we do not require your agreeing to any contract.
Did I miss something? On
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dc3bxdhs_0cc77vdd9
I only read this three possibilities:
[Agree
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
If you really consider your contributions to be in the public domain then
good news for you: we do not require your agreeing to any contract.
No, I'll simply take his data and upload it under an account which I sign up
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:11 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
On Aug 9, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Anthony wrote:
If that was you back then: Why should you request OSMF to properly
remove
all of your work when at the same time you have no problem with OSM
using
my contributions in any way
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Imports are bad enough in the effect they have on the surveying
community.
You are welcome to join a 48,000 km kayak trip to survey the Australian
coastline.
However
If there is
2010/8/10 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
The Ideal would be PD/CC0, because that wouldn't limit us in so many ways.
That's not true, it wouldn't limit what terms could be placed on end
users of the data, it would increasingly limit what contributors can
do.
2010/8/9 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
Yes, easier said than done. But in my opinion a free and open
geodatabase of the world is only free if it doesn't impose limits on
it's uses.
If you use OSM in a work, say that you used OSM, and don't sue anybody
for copying that work.
Is that
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
2010/8/8 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
Am 08.08.2010 16:59, schrieb John Smith:
On 9 August 2010 00:58, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
Australia 2 people per km^2
Sweden 21 people per km^2
Canada is ~3
PS These tags are documented in german only, what about those OSMers that
doesn't understand german, are we forced to use google translate to ready
tag descriptions? If it was documented in english at least more of us could
understand it and maybe even contribute with translations into some of our
Aun Johnsen wrote:
PS These tags are documented in german only, what about those OSMers
that doesn't understand german, are we forced to use google translate to
ready tag descriptions? If it was documented in english at least more of
us could understand it and maybe even contribute with
Am 08.08.2010 23:10, schrieb Liz:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Cartinus wrote:
It doesn't take as many manhours to map a desert as it takes to map
downtown Melbourne.
Cartinus
Please don't come up with this sort of nonsense
Well, a Desert usually has much less features than urban terrain, so I
don't
On Monday 09 August 2010 10:04:00 Aun Johnsen wrote:
PS These tags are documented in german only, what about those OSMers that
doesn't understand german, are we forced to use google translate to ready
tag descriptions? If it was documented in english at least more of us could
understand it and
On 08/08/2010 22:10, Liz wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Cartinus wrote:
It doesn't take as many manhours to map a desert as it takes to map
downtown Melbourne.
Cartinus
Please don't come up with this sort of nonsense
Ha, ha, ha.
You do say the funniest things sometimes, Liz.
But only
Supported by the UK's Association for Geographic Information, w3gconf is a
free, one day conference, themed on the 3 W's of Geo. Large in scope but
intimate in scale, w3gconf is targeted firmly at the geographic community at
large, from the geographic professional, be they GIS or Web 2.0 to the
On 9 August 2010 23:40, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
The government imports (some highways, schools, hospitals, boundaries,
etc.) are an essential part of what we are doing here, and at least
for us, the license change represents no problem.
What about the new
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote:
You can associate an OpenID to an existing account. You can also switch your
associated OpenID at any time (provided you are logged in) just like you can
change your password. (The OpenID is never revealed to anyone other
But strangely enough it is a lot more complicated to map remote areas
such a desert than to map a city. Logistics for a start, I can catch
a bus and map my city locally for an hour or two, the city bus just
doesn't run to remote areas and there are a lot of remote areas in
Canada. I have written
Bernhard R. Fischer wrote:
Ok, we should be able to solve this problem ;)
I started a translation:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lighthouse_Datamodel
The German version now exists twice. I'm not sure how to cleanup this in the
wiki yet without breaking some link dependencies.
Beacons
John,
That may be a problem, but my impression is that the point four solves it.
Cheers
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 August 2010 23:40, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
The government imports (some highways, schools,
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
Aun,
+1 from Chile.
The government imports (some highways, schools, hospitals, boundaries,
etc.) are an essential part of what we are doing here, and at least
for us, the license change represents no
John Smith schrieb:
The problem here isn't imports, if anything the few imports we have
had helped make the map less blank where fewer people map, which isn't
the same thing as fewer people living.
We have a number of reports here that people took a look, saw that
there's nothing interesting
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
If you really consider your contributions to be in the public domain
then good news for you: we do not require your agreeing to any contract.
Did I miss something? On
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dc3bxdhs_0cc77vdd9
I only read this three possibilities:
[Agree button]
If you are a student or non-UK OSMer you might be interested in chance to gain
a bursary to attend the Society of Cartographers conference next month (in the
UK). Join the society (v small joining fee - get conf fees part paid). See
message below:
George,
If The contributor terms contain clauses that permit OSMF to do
whatever they like with the content including change the license off
course any non PD import will not be compatible at all.
We will have to ask the agencies to agree with the Contributor Terms
but if we are changing to a PD
On 10 August 2010 04:10, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
If this is voted as a package I will obviously have to vote against
the change (I do not want to see 7/8 of the Chilean highways
disappearing from the map in one day, not to say many POIs that we
were about to
to become OSM mappers!
http://www.greenvilleopenmap.info/Mappers00.jpg
(Saw that in a magazine ad)
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On Monday 09 August 2010 16:31:15 Malcolm Herring wrote:
Bernhard R. Fischer wrote:
Ok, we should be able to solve this problem ;)
I started a translation:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lighthouse_Datamodel
The German version now exists twice. I'm not sure how to cleanup this in
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
We will have to ask the agencies to agree with the Contributor Terms
but if we are changing to a PD license disguised as BY-SA (via the CT)
they probably will not cooperate.
OSMF is not moving to a PD
John,
John Smith wrote:
And this is why Frederik wants to get rid of data imports, because it
reduces the chances of getting a PD dataset by stealth or feature
creep
Maybe if you'd scale back your demagogy a bit. The subject you chose for
this thread is offensive enough.
Nothing here
On 10 August 2010 05:46, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Maybe if you'd scale back your demagogy a bit. The subject you chose for
this thread is offensive enough.
Sorry if the truth hurts, but some of us are offended by the notion
that something we find useful can be so easily and
I honestly think the way forward is to continue as we are currently
and set up a separate project which is pure PD. Extract anything that
can be extracted from the current map, this can be done by selecting
data which has been contributed by those who are happy with public
domain licensing and
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
A common
mantra is that copyright does not mean much unless exerted. Views?
I'm not sure where you're getting that from. In any countries which
have agreed to the Berne Convention, copyright is acquired
automatically,
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
OSMF is not moving to a PD license disguised as BY-SA
Then why don't they ever talk about the fact that the contents are
going to be released under DbCL?
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Hi,
Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
OSMF is not moving to a PD license disguised as BY-SA
Then why don't they ever talk about the fact that the contents are
going to be released under DbCL?
Because it is irrelevant given that the
On 10 August 2010 07:11, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Because it is irrelevant given that the Database as a whole is protected,
rather than the individual pieces it contains which, as you correctly state,
are largely unprotectable anway?
Largely isn't completely, which means you
Hi,
John Smith wrote:
Because it is irrelevant given that the Database as a whole is protected,
rather than the individual pieces it contains which, as you correctly state,
are largely unprotectable anway?
Largely isn't completely, which means you are suggesting that if there
is any
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's in the contributor terms: ODbL 1.0 for the database
and DbCL 1.0 for the individual contents of the database. the
database is attribution and share-alike. the contents, as facts, hold
no copyright - so copyright
On 10 August 2010 07:30, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
I think it has been repeated countless times already, and it is funny to see
how both you and Anthony seem to ignore that.
We're not ignoring anything, the problem is the content license
explicitly removes copyright, which makes
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
OSMF is not moving to a PD license disguised as BY-SA, OSMF would
like to move to ODbL. however, it has to be pointed out that CC BY-SA
might be described as a PD license disguised as BY-SA, since many
lawyers (including
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's in the contributor terms: ODbL 1.0 for the database
and DbCL 1.0 for the individual contents of the database. the
database is
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote:
John and Liz in Australia say that CC-BY(-SA) works for geodata in
Australia, meaning that facts can be copyrighted. Several Australian
judges seem to think otherwise but let's assume it were so.
Misquote
John has pointed out twice that one legal
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
OSMF is not moving to a PD license disguised as BY-SA
Then why don't they ever talk about the fact that the contents are
going
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's in the contributor terms: ODbL 1.0 for the database
and DbCL 1.0
On 10 August 2010 07:43, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
wouldn't you prefer to protect the *whole* database?
That isn't the point, the point was about it *explicitly* removing any
claim of copyright, which then makes it incompatible with BY and SA
data sources.
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's in the contributor terms: ODbL 1.0 for the database
and DbCL 1.0 for the individual contents of the database. the
One other thing. What is meant by the individual contents of the
database. Is a changeset an
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
OSMF is not moving to a PD license disguised as BY-SA, OSMF would
like to move to ODbL. however, it has to be pointed out that CC BY-SA
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 07:43, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
wouldn't you prefer to protect the *whole* database?
That isn't the point, the point was about it *explicitly* removing any
claim of copyright, which
On 10 August 2010 08:02, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
that's currently awaiting legal advice. but if you can save us, and
the lawyers, the trouble of giving advice, thanks!
How many different lawyers have been asked, and do they all share the
same opinions that we've been hearing?
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's
Hi,
I'd like to include OpenStreetMap.js file in my website, whose sources are
published under agpl:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/openlayers/OpenStreetMap.js
I really dislike the idea of using javascript hosted on another server, so I
won't link to hosted version. Then, I'd like to known if I
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Can we get a collection of quotes from those lawyers that you say
think otherwise? Exact quotes of what they said?
unfortunately not. apparently legal advice
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 05:29:36PM +0200, Michael Collinson wrote:
A common mantra is that copyright does not mean much unless exerted.
Views? Precedents?
Well, you can steal my food, and if you’re careful I might not notice
the odd loaf of bread go missing. I might notice, and attribute it to
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Fortunately most people seem to grasp the concept but I've here made an
effort to present it, again, in simple terms to increase the number of those
who do.
Most people are actually pretty clueless about the details
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10 August 2010 07:25, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
they do. and it's in the contributor terms: ODbL 1.0 for the database
and DbCL
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of
telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest
originality to a collection of facts then it become eligible for copyright.
Can you
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Can we get a collection of quotes from those lawyers that you say
think otherwise? Exact quotes
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:05 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 August 2010 08:02, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
that's currently awaiting legal advice. but if you can save us, and
the lawyers, the trouble of giving advice, thanks!
How many different lawyers have
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Matt, you really do need to read up on case law about the minimum threshold
for copyrightability.
i have. but perhaps you could point out the judgements you're
referring to, because i've not seen them.
cheers,
matt
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
unfortunately, we will lose data this time around - it's unavoidable
Data loss can easily be avoided. Just abandon your attempts to change the
license.
If you want an ODbL licensed project why not just start one?
On 10 August 2010 10:10, arno a...@renevier.net wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to include OpenStreetMap.js file in my website, whose sources are
published under agpl:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/openlayers/OpenStreetMap.js
I really dislike the idea of using javascript hosted on another server, so
I
On 10/08/10 00:21, Tim McNamara wrote:
On 10 August 2010 10:10, arno a...@renevier.net
mailto:a...@renevier.net wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to include OpenStreetMap.js file in my website, whose
sources are
published under agpl:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Mike N. wrote:
to become OSM mappers!
http://www.greenvilleopenmap.info/Mappers00.jpg
(Saw that in a magazine ad)
not a joke at all
http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Matt, you really do need to read up on case law about the minimum
threshold
for copyrightability.
i have. but perhaps you could point out the judgements
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Can we get a collection of
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote:
Thus, it slows everything down.
Oh and this and other threads going on right now are good examples. It's
explicitly slowing down and complicating the process, which is probably
the aim of several of the people here.
I don't think it slows everything down,
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote:
Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of
telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest
originality to a
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote:
Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of
telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest
originality to a collection of facts then it become eligible for
copyright.
Can you give examples of
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you give examples of what you consider originality in the OSM database?
Is a painting of a flower copyrightable? What about a tracing of a
photograph of a flower? What if you just trace the outline of the
flower?
Is a
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I don't think it slows everything down, just some things.
My explicit aim is not to slow down nor complicate the process of licence
change, but to pull it to a halt.
It's good that you've aired that explicitly because it explains
On 10 August 2010 11:38, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
At this point, the ODbL ship has sailed. There's no putting the
toothpaste back in the tube, and there's no crying over spilled milk.
There's not even any more time for metaphors, that fat lady has sung.
If things are so fixed
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
All of these are valid options. They also all have the attribute of
being active- that is focusing on what's to come, instead of focusing
on trying to change the past.
Thankyou Serge for your opinions.
I don't think any ship has sailed, or any
Hi all,
I can't seem to find a widely used tag for availability of outside
seating at a pub, bar or cafe.
I am using outside_seating=yes - what do you use?
Cheers,
Martijn
martijn van exel +++ m...@rtijn.org
laziness - impatience - hubris
http://schaaltreinen.nl/
twitter / skype: mvexel
Er is wel dit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidewalk_cafe
Lees ook het stukje over McDonalds.
Hoeft dus niet per se een terras op de stoep te zijn als ik het goed lees.
Maar ik kan ook geen goede tag vinden.
Ik vind het sowieso al moeilijk om een goede tag voor een Nederlands café
te vinden.
Sorry voor 't Engels, ik dacht dat ik naar talk@ postte.
Ik heb de naam 'sidewalk cafe' nog nooit horen gebruiken voor een
terras bij een café.
martijn van exel +++ m...@rtijn.org
laziness - impatience - hubris
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flickr: rhodes
2010/8/9 Floris
Ja - ik heb contact gehad met het NLR en zij verwezen mij naar
Eurosense. Ik heb een contactpersoon gekregen die ik wel gemaild heb
maar niet meer achteraan gebeld. Toen is het even blijven liggen, maar
zal morgen de desbetreffende na(a)m(en) doorgeven.
Martijn
martijn van exel +++
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Eurosense had toch een CC-BY-NC-SA licentie op haar foto's? Zeker met
het huidige licentie gerommel kun je dit soort bronnen zeker niet meer
gebruiken zonder expliciete toestemming.
Stefan
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Martijn van Exel wrote:
Hi all,
I can't seem to find a widely used tag for availability of outside
seating at a pub, bar or cafe.
I am using outside_seating=yes - what do you use?
Cheers,
Martijn
Hoe past amenity=biergarten in deze discussie?
Ronald
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:15:41 +0200, Ronald stroe...@zonnet.nl wrote:
Martijn van Exel wrote:
Hi all,
I can't seem to find a widely used tag for availability of outside
seating at a pub, bar or cafe.
I am using outside_seating=yes - what do you use?
Hoe past amenity=biergarten in deze
You are right,
That account was also only created 13 hours ago.
I just downloaded the changeset in JOSM and I will revert it shortly.
Not sure what to do with the user though.
Markus
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On 9 August 2010 15:51, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
You are right,
That account was also only created 13 hours ago.
I just downloaded the changeset in JOSM and I will revert it shortly.
Not sure what to do with the user though.
Assume it was an innocent mistake, offer help. If it
I will send a help message tomorrow to the user.
The revert has now finished.
Need to go to bed now.
Markus
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From: gr...@firefishy.com [mailto:gr...@firefishy.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Slater
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:29 AM
To: Markus
Cc: Andrew Gregory;
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:06:23 +0800, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote:
I will send a help message tomorrow to the user.
The revert has now finished.
Need to go to bed now.
Markus
Thanks for that! By coincidence there was a post on the general talk list
that mentioned the Josm revert
Hello.
For those of you that dislike the new wiki look, you can revert it by going
to:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Preferences
Click on 'Appearance', and then select 'MonoBook' and save...
Thank you for that. Looks a lot more normal now.
Just being evil-minded and petty;
On 10 August 2010 07:54, 16 towal...@gmail.com wrote:
Just being evil-minded and petty; I wonder if this hint should be added
(discretely) to, say, the Australian Tagging Guidelines. Might as well
keep up the image of them ignorant Southern Hemisphere hicks wot
doesn't like to toe the line?
I
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