Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Mann
This should be announced on the talk list. Richard On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) te...@teddy.ch wrote: Hi Voting is open for public transport proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport Regards Teddy

Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread Dominik Mahrer (Teddy)
Hi Richard Important is the tagging-list, not the talk-list. I have sent it to the tagging-list and additionally because it is transit related to the talk-transit-list. Thanks Teddy On 31.03.2011 12:01, Richard Mann wrote: This should be announced on the talk list. Richard On Thu, Mar

Re: [Talk-hr] 12.03.2011. OSM-HR neformalno druženje - Zagreb

2011-03-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ja nemrem u subotu, žena mi ima roćkas :-/ On Mar 31, 2011 9:31 AM, Matija Nalis mnalis-d...@voyager.hr wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:00:40PM +0200, Sanela Planinčević-Vujičić wrote: Zdravo Hrvoje i ostali! Poslije 6 pada mrak, ak mislite nekaj radit. Ja sam za subotu, dodobas takoder.

Re: [Talk-hr] 12.03.2011. OSM-HR neformalno druženje - Zagreb

2011-03-31 Thread Darko Boto
Sto se mene tice moze subota... u mami bi bilo super, svakako cu biti tamo. 2011/3/31 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: On 03/31/2011 09:30 AM, Matija Nalis wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:00:40PM +0200, Sanela Planinčević-Vujičić wrote: Zdravo Hrvoje i ostali! Poslije 6 pada mrak, ak mislite

Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

2011-03-31 Thread Marloue Pidor
Tutubi, I am based in Davao, thanks for the info. - where exactly the routing errors? To correct them. - why do you think J. P. Laurel Ave. be a single-carriageway? (should review also East Ave and NIA Road in Manila those are part of my reference) - the turn restrictions are new to Davao we

Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

2011-03-31 Thread tutubi
hehe...I agree. lots of experiments here in Metro Manila too. It's just recently that i noticed Paseo de Roxas in Makati from makati ave to Buendia is now a dual-carriageway with a few meters now with permanent concrete and steel railings. I pass there everyday but i didn't take notice till a few

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread maning sambale
Sample of Makati buildings: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=9bbox=13471489.7955081,1637931.9145683108,13472170.2044919,1638295.2054316893layers=base_style=clear_map_history=true -- Forwarded message -- From: Eric Matthews eric.matth...@itoworld.com Date:

[OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, I am mostly interested in truly original OSM data created by our contributors. Now when folks are more and more importing data into OSM it is getting less usable for me. For example if I want to use Corine landcover data I prefer using it from the original sources and not pushed through OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Shaun McDonald
There is already a tag for that. It's the source tag. Shaun On 31 Mar 2011, at 08:51, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Hi, I am mostly interested in truly original OSM data created by our contributors. Now when folks are more and more importing data into OSM it is getting less usable for me. For

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Steve Coast wrote: Ok I think it's shameful how bad the mapping was there so I added a bunch of trees, car parks, the park, some buildings... Let's see how good we can make Lockport, NY ? Wait... user alexrudd is Steve Coast? -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Ed Avis
I think you can assume that if no 'source' tag is set, the feature is done by traditional OSM mapping (survey, or GPS trace, or local knowledge, or perhaps tracing from aerial imagery). -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:20:22 + (UTC) Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I think you can assume that if no 'source' tag is set, the feature is done by traditional OSM mapping (survey, or GPS trace, or local knowledge, or perhaps tracing from aerial imagery). The use or not of source was

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Topf
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 08:33:55PM +1100, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: so that the decision was made to encourage Au mappers to set the source tag on all items. You can't really base any decision on the source tag alone. Only about half the objects in the database have a source tag:

[OSM-talk] Fwd: [Talk-transit] Proposed Feature - Public Transport - Voting

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Mann
Hi Voting is open for public transport proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport Regards Teddy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/31 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org: Having said that, there's the important issue of human contributors adding value to the imports: adding metadata, removing stale data, improving geometry. Those are real human contributions that would not have occurred if it weren't for the import

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com writes: 2011/3/31 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org: Having said that, there's the important issue of human contributors adding value to the imports: adding metadata, removing stale data, improving geometry. Those are real human contributions that

[OSM-talk] FOSSGIS

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hoi, Gaat er verder nog iemand naar FOSSGIS volgende week? Interessant programma en vast veel OSM-ers. Voertaal is Duits. http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2011/ -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/31 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi: used for finding the real user contributed data and I will need to preprocess OSM data somehow. you could define certain patterns you expect to be typical for imports and then elaborate through all the changesets and flag them automated or

Re: [OSM-talk] FOSSGIS

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
2011/3/31 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org Hoi, Gaat er verder nog iemand naar FOSSGIS volgende week? Interessant programma en vast veel OSM-ers. Voertaal is Duits. http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2011/ -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel Whoops - this was meant for the Dutch

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Dave F.
On 31/03/2011 06:55, Steve Coast wrote: Ok I think it's shameful how bad the mapping was there so I added a bunch of trees, car parks, the park, some buildings... Let's see how good we can make Lockport, NY ? As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com writes: 2011/3/31 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org: Having said that, there's the important issue of human contributors adding value to the imports: adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 31/03/2011 13:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2011/3/31 Martijn van Exelm...@rtijn.org: Having said that, there's the important issue of human contributors adding value to the imports: adding metadata, removing stale data, improving geometry. Those are real human contributions that would

[OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Eric Matthews
Hi everyone Just to let everyone know that ITO's ITO Map for OpenStreetMap now has global coverage. ITO Map takes OSM data that would normally be hidden, or at least hard to notice, in OSM and makes it much easier to follow for purposes of validation and tracking what's available, like voltage

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread SomeoneElse
On 31/03/2011 12:40, Dave F. wrote: As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Eric Matthews eric.matth...@itoworld.com wrote: Hi everyone Just to let everyone know that ITO's ITO Map for OpenStreetMap now has global coverage. Super! Looks wonderful, Eric and thank you for covering more of the world. I had a quick look at the buildings

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered acceptable to use Google StreetView to assist in armchair mapping? No. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Dave F.
On 31/03/2011 13:19, SomeoneElse wrote: On 31/03/2011 12:40, Dave F. wrote: As someone from across the pond, excuse my ignorance, but what are these for:

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Dave F.
On 31/03/2011 13:23, Martijn van Exel wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered acceptable to use Google StreetView to assist in armchair mapping? I personally would not use it, as it seems to be a violation of their ToU: http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_local.html which state

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 31/03/2011 13:23, Martijn van Exel wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered acceptable to use Google StreetView to assist in armchair mapping? I personally would not use it, as it seems to be a violation of their ToU:

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 31/03/2011 13:23, Martijn van Exel wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered acceptable to use Google StreetView to assist in armchair mapping? I personally would not use it, as it seems to be a violation of their ToU:

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Eric Matthews
Richard Good to know that you're finding the product useful. I agree that not limiting coverage really does make ITO Map that much more useful and interesting for everyone. I'll pass the request for a link into an editor on to the devy side of things at ITO, cheers for the suggestion. Eric On

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Hi! Nice! Another very useful tool for finding problems and areas that need more work. The fact that is works in my region is a big plus ;-) Two quick suggestions/notes you may already be aware of, but anyway: 1) Coloring for buildings with addresses seems incorrect for many cases I saw. For

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Eric Matthews
Hi Thanks for the feedback Leandro. Good to know its useful for you. We're aware of the bug with the address layer, so we're working on that at the moment and hopefully will have it fixed soon. The surfaces tag suggestion is a good one, I'll see what we can do. Best wishes Eric On Thu, Mar

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for true OSM data?

2011-03-31 Thread Ed Avis
Elizabeth Dodd edodd at billiau.net writes: I think you can assume that if no 'source' tag is set, the feature is done by traditional OSM mapping (survey, or GPS trace, or local knowledge, or perhaps tracing from aerial imagery). The use or not of source was found to mean two different things

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Ed Avis
I think the buildings and addresses map will be useful but there are so many buildings on the map that some mappers might like to prioritize which ones to add addresses for. (In some areas the Bing imagery is so detailed that even garden sheds can be traced, but it's not practical to visit them

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Eric Matthews
Thanks for the idea, its been noted. We'll be collecting feedback for a week or so, and then start on making changes. Bugs that are stumbled upon we'll work to clear up as soon as we can though. Eric Matthews On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I think the

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 31/03/2011 13:23, Martijn van Exel wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered acceptable to use Google StreetView to assist in armchair mapping? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 31/03/2011 13:23, Martijn van Exel wrote: Out of curiosity: is it considered

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: My first intention was to ignore this message but I cannot Anyone round here ever seen the film 'Groundhog Day'? cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Okay-this-is-just-cool-Lockport-NY-tp6225128p6227765.html Sent from the General

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Ed Avis
Has anyone simply asked Google for permission to use Google Street View as a mapping aid? -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Chris Hill
On 31/03/11 16:49, Pieren wrote: My first intention was to ignore this message but I cannot, I refuse ignorance and fud. So again, some basic definitions: facts are nowhere in the world copyrightable, nowhere. Copyright is about creation/invention. Collections of facts are using copyright

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples of OSM used in Transport Planning?

2011-03-31 Thread Mikel Maron
Thanks all for the suggestions. I posted the slides and did a quick write up: http://groundtruthinitiative.org/2011/03/31/openstreetmap-and-transport-presentation-to-the-world-bank-transport-forum/ == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From:

Re: [OSM-talk] Aruba has flooded

2011-03-31 Thread Toby Murray
It seems the problem persists. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.516lon=-69.943zoom=11layers=M We went from flooding of Aruba to draining the oceans. According to the HTTP headers, the current shoreline shapefile was last updated on the 26th of March which is 4 days after the Aruba shoreline

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Alex Ruddick
No, I was just bored last night after reading his email, and enjoy tracing. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: Steve Coast wrote: Ok I think it's shameful how bad the mapping was there so I added a bunch of trees, car parks, the park, some

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: You have missed the quote above, from terms of use for Google Streetview, No. I did not miss any quote. ToU is about Google Maps and their third party aerial imagery, not about street view pictures. Aerial imagery is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: Anyone round here ever seen the film 'Groundhog Day'? If you mean it's a desperate fud which will never end, I understand. Yes. If we separate the horrid neologism into its three component parts - Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt - then I'm entirely with you on that. We are Uncertain as

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: [1] I actually think Google is being depressingly smart on this. They purposefully don't elucidate what you can and can't do. On the one hand, they want people to build geo apps and create indexable geodata on the

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Hello again, Another building-related thing I forgot to say in the previous email: Many buildings here (specially commercial buildings) have many numbers (one for each store front). For this reason, I frequently add the address tags to each building entrance, not to the building as whole. It

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: comment on my long Bauman vs Fussell posting way back when, which was pretty much the same issue. We know the parameters of the debate: all we can do is rattle around inside them, Groundhog Day-style. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 31 March 2011 18:23, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Has anyone simply asked Google for permission to use Google Street View as a mapping aid? For the record, in East Europe where Google Street View has no coverage, there's a an almost identical service provided by Norc.ro, who explicitly

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
Oandrzej zaborowski wrote: For the record, in East Europe where Google Street View has no coverage, there's a an almost identical service provided by Norc.ro, who explicitly allow usage in OSM. There's a similar service in Germany: sightwalk.de - they, too, have explicitly allowed the use of

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global

2011-03-31 Thread Micha Ruh
Thanks for extended coverage! It looks like the line color for maxspeed in km/h does not match the map key legend, at least for 80/100 km/h (blue / violet). Regards, Micha ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Nic Roets
One more argument in Pieren's favour: OSM is not for profit. On Slashdot a court case was recently mentioned where the judge ruled in favour of a non profit who copied a complete article from a copyrighted journal. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 1 April 2011 00:59, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: One more argument in Pieren's favour: OSM is not for profit. On Slashdot a court case was recently mentioned where the judge ruled in favour of a non profit who copied a complete article from a copyrighted journal. Right, but I think we

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:07 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2011 00:59, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: One more argument in Pieren's favour: OSM is not for profit. On Slashdot a court case was recently mentioned where the judge ruled in favour of a non profit who

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 22:51 +0200, Tobias Knerr wrote: Oandrzej zaborowski wrote: For the record, in East Europe where Google Street View has no coverage, there's a an almost identical service provided by Norc.ro, who explicitly allow usage in OSM. There's a similar service in Germany:

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Mike N
On 3/31/2011 7:44 PM, David Murn wrote: I wonder what would be involved in creating a public OSM-like streetview system.. would it even be possible to create enough of a standard to allow users to contribute their own streetview-like images or video streams in a way that the data could be freely

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:44 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Another thought is some sort of free service like panaramio where Joe Public can upload georeferenced photos, that can be used in conjunction with OSM. http://openstreetview.org/

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] openOV gaat beginnen

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ik was nog even vergeten om te zeggen hoe cool ik dit allemaal vind, Stefan. Hoe gaat het met de GOVI-koppeling ondertussen? Martijn On 3/23/2011 1:06 AM, Stefan de Konink wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hoi allen, Ik wilde jullie ook op de mailinglijst even

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] openOV gaat beginnen

2011-03-31 Thread Rob
Overheid data in de USA wordt grotendeels ontsloten via odata ( http://www.odata.org/) Misschien ook mooi om eens naar te kijken.. Rob Op 31 maart 2011 11:41 schreef Martijn van Exel mart...@geodan.nl het volgende: Ik was nog even vergeten om te zeggen hoe cool ik dit allemaal vind, Stefan.

[OSM-talk-nl] FOSSGIS

2011-03-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
Zoals net al abusievelijk naar talk gepost: Hoi, Gaat er verder nog iemand naar FOSSGIS volgende week? Interessant programma en vast veel OSM-ers. Voertaal is Duits. http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2011/ -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] FOSSGIS

2011-03-31 Thread Reinout van Rees
On 31-03-11 13:34, Martijn van Exel wrote: Gaat er verder nog iemand naar FOSSGIS volgende week? Interessant programma en vast veel OSM-ers. Voertaal is Duits. http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2011/ Ik ga erheen. Ik werk niet actief aan openstreetmap, maar gebruik het wel. Ik bouw websites met

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, Ich tage gebäude- (oder gelände-) spezifische Dinge immer am Polygon (Adresse, building:* usw.) Falls sich im Gebäude nur ein Geschäft findet, was auf die gesamte Fläche ausgedehnt ist, schreib ich die Daten an das Gebäude mit dran. Sind es mehrere Geschäfte werden diese als Node oder Polygon

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread ben
Hallo, vielen Dank für eure Auskunft. Wenn ich die Nodes in das Gebäude setze wird mir Mapnik aber trotzdem noch zwei Zahlen rendern, nur eben im Gebäude, oder? Grüße, ben 2011/3/31 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Am 31. März 2011 00:08 schrieb Bartosz Fabianowski

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 30. März 2011 23:05 schrieb ben b...@nerdlabor.de: Habe bis jetzt immer eine Fläche gezeichnet und building=yes gesetzt. Vor das Gebäude habe ich einen Punkt gesetzt und den zum shop mit allem pipapo gemacht. Jetzt sieht das Rendering aber total bekloppt aus, weil Hausnummern zweimal

Re: [Talk-de] n paar Fragen

2011-03-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 30.03.2011 16:10, schrieb Thomas Ineichen: Einfacher Fall in der Realität: Gebäude mit einer Adresse, alle Eingänge des Gebäudes und die Läden darin haben auch diese Adresse. Umsetzung in OSM: Gebäudeumriss mit Adress-Tags versehen, Nodes für die Läden ins Innere der Fläche und ggf.

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread Henning Scholland
Meiner Meinung nach gibt es doch genau für das Verbinden von Objekten zu einer Einheit Relationen. So eine site oder building-Relation erspart hier eine Menge Rechenzeit und macht die Sache eindeutig. Nimm bspw. die Kantine im Schulgebäude, das wiederum im Schulgelände ist, wobei das Gelände

Re: [Talk-de] AIO seit 19.1.2011 nicht geupdated

2011-03-31 Thread fla...@googlemail.com
http://dev.openstreetmap.de/aio/europa-daily/ Ab heute wird einmal pro Woche eine Europakarte OHNE zusätzliche Layer berechnet. Grüße Dirk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] FOSSGIS: Gespraech zur Zusammenarbeit OSM/OpenAddresses

2011-03-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, auf Anregung von Christian Karrié vom OpenAddresses-Projekt wollen wir auf der FOSSGIS-Konferenz naechste Woche in Heidelberg mal zusammensitzen und ueberlegen, wie man die Harmonisierung von OpenAddresses und OpenStreetMap voranbringen kann. Da gab es ja immer mal wieder

[Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Chris66
Hi, hier mein Kommentar zum neuen OSM-Inspector Multipolygone: (1) bei Grenzen die als type=boundary getaggt sind sollte keine Warnung kommen. Der Tag ist etabliert und laut taginfo 90.000 mal in Gebrauch, bietet außerdem mehr Möglichkeiten (siehe admin_centre). (2) touching inner

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Topf
Hi! On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:34:24AM +0200, Chris66 wrote: hier mein Kommentar zum neuen OSM-Inspector Multipolygone: (1) bei Grenzen die als type=boundary getaggt sind sollte keine Warnung kommen. Der Tag ist etabliert und laut taginfo 90.000 mal in Gebrauch, bietet außerdem mehr

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Chris66
Am 31.03.2011 11:49, schrieb Jochen Topf: (2) touching inner rings sollten nicht als Fehler gemeldet werden. Angrenzende Flächen sind in der Kartografie schliesslich nicht ungewöhnlich. Touching inner rings sind ein Problemfall bei der Verwendung von Multipolygonen. Wenn man das

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread Andreas Neumann
Mhhh... ich hab schon einige Gebäude mit building-Relationen getaggt... Hab aber noch nicht ausprobiert, wie osm2pgsql damit umgeht (wichtig ist ja, dass dann auch alle Tags an den Polygonen, Linien und Punkten zur Verfügung stehen und das war vor einem Jahr noch nicht so (hatte es mit den

Re: [Talk-de] n paar Fragen

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. März 2011 00:30 schrieb Wolfgang wolfg...@ivkasogis.de: Mit Auswertung meine ich nicht nur Renderer, sondern auch andere Möglichkeiten,  z.B. Statistik-Programme, Router, Adress -was-weiß-ich- Auswertungen ich auch Eben nicht. Das Multipolygon wird in erster Linie vom Renderer

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich Shops in Wohnhäusern?

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. März 2011 09:35 schrieb Andreas Neumann andr-neum...@gmx.net: Für die Auswertung ist diese Schachtelung relativ einfach zu bewerkstelligen, wenn man PostgreSQL verwendet. Hier kann man Tags von umschließenden Polygonen abfragen. Ich mache dies bereits aktiv mit Adressen. Einziges Manko:

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. März 2011 12:02 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Touching inner rings sind ein Problemfall bei der Verwendung von Multipolygonen. Wenn man das dabei nicht richtig beachtet, dann bekommt man ungültige Multipolygone nach Simple Feature Standard. bei OSM ist es aber üblich den

Re: [Talk-de] AIO seit 19.1.2011 nicht geupdated

2011-03-31 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. März 2011 11:26 schrieb fla...@googlemail.com fla...@googlemail.com: http://dev.openstreetmap.de/aio/europa-daily/ Ab heute wird einmal pro Woche eine Europakarte OHNE zusätzliche Layer berechnet. gibt es schon Ergebnisse, wie groß diese Karte unkomprimiert als gmapsupp.img ist? Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Chris, bei OSM ist es aber üblich den inner-Rings Tags für die innere Fläche zu verpassen. Beispiel: outer = Waldgebiet inner1 = Acker inner2 = Heide Der Acker grenzt direkt an die Heide. Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Chris66
Am 31.03.2011 13:24, schrieb Thomas Ineichen: Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität kein Zwischenraum ist? Wenn Du möchtest, dass der OSMI keine Warnmeldung mehr anzeigt, dann musst Du 3 Relationen erstellen:

[Talk-de] Straßenlistenabfrage

2011-03-31 Thread Michael Buege
Es ist jetzt schon ne Weile her, als ich mal mit der Straßenlistenabfrage auf albspotter.eu eine sehr schoene Strassenliste fuer eine Stadtteilkarte generiert habe. Leider geht das seit geraumer Zeit nicht mehr. Gibt es mittlerweile eine andere Moeglichkeit, eine solche Strassenliste entweder

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Topf
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:02:39PM +0200, Chris66 wrote: Am 31.03.2011 11:49, schrieb Jochen Topf: (2) touching inner rings sollten nicht als Fehler gemeldet werden. Angrenzende Flächen sind in der Kartografie schliesslich nicht ungewöhnlich. Touching inner rings sind ein

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Peter
Am 31.03.2011 14:11, schrieb Chris66: Am 31.03.2011 13:24, schrieb Thomas Ineichen: Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität kein Zwischenraum ist? Wenn Du möchtest, dass der OSMI keine Warnmeldung mehr anzeigt, dann musst Du 3

Re: [Talk-de] AIO seit 19.1.2011 nicht geupdated

2011-03-31 Thread Lars Schimmer
On 31.03.2011 13:18, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 31. März 2011 11:26 schrieb fla...@googlemail.com fla...@googlemail.com: http://dev.openstreetmap.de/aio/europa-daily/ Ab heute wird einmal pro Woche eine Europakarte OHNE zusätzliche Layer berechnet. gibt es schon Ergebnisse, wie groß

Re: [Talk-de] AIO seit 19.1.2011 nicht geupdated

2011-03-31 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 31.03.2011 15:25, schrieb Lars Schimmer: Wird echt Zeit, das es ein Garmin Gerät mit einem FS gibt, welches4Gb Dateien kann. Ich bin öfters in europa unterwegs und hätte gerne eine Karte und ned 20 verschiedene. Ist zwar reiner Komfort, aber dennoch. Daran glaubst du doch nicht wirklich?

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Chris66
Am 31.03.2011 15:07, schrieb Jochen Topf: Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität kein Zwischenraum ist? Nein. Aus meiner Sicht ist das völlig ok und Du musst da auch nichts machen. Der OSM Inspector weist auf eine möglicherweise

[Talk-de] FOSSGIS: druckbare Version des Programms LTs

2011-03-31 Thread Pascal Neis
Hi, einige von euch sind ja bei der diesjährigen FOSSGIS in Heidelberg mit dabei. Unter dem folgenden Link findet ihr eine druckbare Version des Programms: http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2011/fossgis_programm.pdf Ansonsten hier noch einmal ein Aufruf Lightning Talks (fünfminütige

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Peter
Am 31.03.2011 16:49, schrieb Chris66: Am 31.03.2011 15:07, schrieb Jochen Topf: Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität kein Zwischenraum ist? Nein. Aus meiner Sicht ist das völlig ok und Du musst da auch nichts machen. Der OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Check für unverbundene route=ferry?

2011-03-31 Thread malenki
fla...@googlemail.com schrieb: So nun mal ne Fehlerliste für Deutschland .. zZ 42 Fehler. Berechnet mit Gary68-Tool. C61.XML XML k=mode v=X k=dist v=10 k=check v=route:ferry k=against v=highway:bridleway k=against v=highway:cycleway k=against v=highway:footway k=against

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Jochen Topf
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 04:49:52PM +0200, Chris66 wrote: Am 31.03.2011 15:07, schrieb Jochen Topf: Da soll man nun also die beiden inner-rings um 1 Meter auseinanderziehen auch wenn da in Realität kein Zwischenraum ist? Nein. Aus meiner Sicht ist das völlig ok und Du musst da auch

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Chris66
Am 31.03.2011 18:45, schrieb Jochen Topf: Also: Hinweis ist ok, aber es sollte nicht als Fehler tituliert werden. Wo steht das denn mit dem Fehler? Hast recht, ist nur eine Warnung. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Check für unverbundene route=ferry?

2011-03-31 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 31.03.2011 18:13, schrieb malenki: fla...@googlemail.com schrieb: So nun mal ne Fehlerliste für Deutschland .. zZ 42 Fehler. Berechnet mit Gary68-Tool. C61.XML XML k=mode v=X k=dist v=10 k=check v=route:ferry k=against v=highway:bridleway k=against v=highway:cycleway

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Inspector MP

2011-03-31 Thread Peter
Am 31.03.2011 17:10, schrieb Peter: Wenn man das zusätzlich bischen Endusertauglich nach großem/kleinem Problem gruppieren könnte wäre es reizvoller. Also oben die Dropdownliste 'View': evtl. eine darüberliegende Ebene wo man zwischen themenorientierten Gruppen und Wichtigkeitsorientierten

[Talk-de] Letzte Bitte für OSM-Stand zum Linuxtag

2011-03-31 Thread malenki
Heute erhielt ich noch einmal eine Mail von den Organisatoren des Linuxtages. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand den einen Stand organisieren würde... Gruß malenki Am Thu, 31 Mar 2011 19:52:52 +0200 schrieb Elke Moritz mor...@linuxtag.org: Hallo OpenStreetMap, hallo FOSSGIS! Beim Durchgehen durch

Re: [Talk-de] Letzte Bitte für OSM-Stand zum Linuxtag

2011-03-31 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, malenki wrote: Heute erhielt ich noch einmal eine Mail von den Organisatoren des Linuxtages. Es wäre schön, wenn jemand den einen Stand organisieren würde... Also, ich bin dieses Jahr schon zu verplant, um noch zum LT hingehen zu koennen. Aber wenn irgendjemand einen Stand macht, dann

Re: [Talk-de] Check für unverbundene route=ferry?

2011-03-31 Thread fly
generell sind diese Checks nicht umbedingt Fehler. Am 30.03.2011 15:11, schrieb Henning Scholland: Am 30.03.2011 14:50, schrieb fly: Ich würde checken auf: * schneiden mit andern route=ferry. Das ist kein Fehler. Oder bist du schon mal unterwegs von einer Fähre auf die nächste umgestiegen?

Re: [Talk-de] Check für unverbundene route=ferry?

2011-03-31 Thread malenki
fla...@googlemail.com schrieb: So nun mal ne Fehlerliste für Deutschland .. zZ 42 Fehler. Berechnet mit Gary68-Tool. C61.XML XML k=mode v=X k=dist v=10 k=check v=route:ferry k=against v=highway:bridleway k=against v=highway:cycleway k=against v=highway:footway k=against

Re: [Talk-de] Check für unverbundene route=ferry?

2011-03-31 Thread malenki
fla...@googlemail.com schrieb: Anregungen ? Einfach melden Noch eins: Es gibt auch öfter Fähren, die direkt an Eisenbahnlinien angebunden sind. Gruß malenki ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] n paar Fragen

2011-03-31 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Donnerstag 31 März 2011 12:56:31 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: -1, Du machst Dir m.E. Sorgen, die unbegründet sind, weil die Lösung bereits implementiert ist. -1 Wir haben hier einen einfachen Fall, in dem wir davon ausgehen können, dass der Renderer eine stillschweigende

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