Re: [OSM-talk-be] Carte du nucléaire (map of nuclear power plants) - from talk-fr mailing list

2011-04-11 Thread Benoit Leseul
Hi, The cooling tower at Drogenbos has nothing to do with UCB. It really is part of an Electrabel power plant, just not a nuclear one. The technology involved is combined cycle gas turbine (CCGT) or Turbine Gaz-Vapeur (TGV) in French. I don't know how you should tag that, but there are a few

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 4th meeting STUK on 06 april 2011

2011-04-11 Thread Jo
I adapted the script quite extensively in the mean time. It takes into account the language of the names (if possible) and it works quite well for the bilingual situation of Brussels. Of course, what it proposes in the edit box, is only a suggestion. It will still turn all 'De' in 'de', which is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 4th meeting STUK on 06 april 2011

2011-04-11 Thread Ben Laenen
Jo wrote: ( Straat, straat), ( Weg, weg), ( Laan, laan), ( Steenweg, steenweg),( Baan, baan), Ik zou voor deze een extra symbool invoegen als '$' die het einde van de string inhoudt, want ergens zullen er wel straten zijn met een naam die begint met bvb. Weg (en bij nader onderzoek zijn ze

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 4th meeting STUK on 06 april 2011

2011-04-11 Thread wannes
2011/4/11 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Bij twijfel wordt de gebruiker geacht op Cancel te drukken, of op te zoeken hoe de straatnaam correct gespeld wordt. In hoeverre is het verkeerd om zoiets uit te vissen met Google, Googlemaps Nee ! of 1207 Nee ! of een straatnamenlijst van een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 4th meeting STUK on 06 april 2011

2011-04-11 Thread Jo
Op 11 april 2011 14:10 schreef wannes wanne...@gmail.com het volgende: 2011/4/11 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Bij twijfel wordt de gebruiker geacht op Cancel te drukken, of op te zoeken hoe de straatnaam correct gespeld wordt. In hoeverre is het verkeerd om zoiets uit te vissen met Google,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 4th meeting STUK on 06 april 2011

2011-04-11 Thread wannes
2011/4/11 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Op 11 april 2011 14:10 schreef wannes wanne...@gmail.com het volgende: 2011/4/11 Jo winfi...@gmail.com Bij twijfel wordt de gebruiker geacht op Cancel te drukken, of op te zoeken hoe de straatnaam correct gespeld wordt. In hoeverre is het verkeerd om zoiets

[OSM-talk-be] plan another meeting in May, or not?

2011-04-11 Thread Jo
Hi, Does it make sense to plan another informal meeting in Leuven as well? Or do we consider the one in Liège the monthly informal meeting? Or do we plan something in Mechelen, Antwerpen or Aarschot? Jo ___ Talk-be mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] plan another meeting in May, or not?

2011-04-11 Thread Karel Adams
On 04/11/2011 03:09 PM, Jo wrote: Does it make sense to plan another informal meeting in Leuven as well? Or do we consider the one in Liège the monthly informal meeting? Or do we plan something in Mechelen, Antwerpen or Aarschot? I certainly am in for the meeting in Liège, under whatever name

Re: [OSM-talk-be] plan another meeting in May, or not?

2011-04-11 Thread Jo
I think of Aarschot because there is a very good connection by bus from Leuven to Aarschot (305 and 307, 20 minutes). I have no idea where we could set up the meet though. A relatively silent, non smoking venue with free wifi should be possible to find... Polyglot 2011/4/11 Karel Adams

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] definitions of free and open

2011-04-11 Thread Francis Davey
2011/4/11 Krysha Krysha kry...@rambler.ru: Hello! Why in the Contributor Terms does not contain definitions of free and open.  Different organizations may have different understanding of these terms. For example, there is a Microsoft Open License ... The absence of these definitions stops me

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] definitions of free and open

2011-04-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 April 2011 08:04, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/11 Krysha Krysha kry...@rambler.ru: Hello! Why in the Contributor Terms does not contain definitions of free and open.  Different organizations may have different understanding of these terms. For example, there is a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] definitions of free and open

2011-04-11 Thread Francis Davey
On 11 April 2011 08:09, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: In addition, Contributor Terms v1.2.4 also now reference http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/ Source: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms Yes. If the matter ever came to court - which seems rather

[OSM-talk] Google Maps changes their ToU

2011-04-11 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, The Google Maps API's ToU has been 'reviewed' by Google[1]. New applications using the GM API will no longer be able to opt out of advertising. Also, new usage limits are introduced. This is just one more argument to use OpenLayers or another OS web mapping framework with OSM instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-11 Thread ThomasB
seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not tested if all) in Kosovska Mitrovica were deleted by a Kosovar (a FLOSSK member) not a Serb. So it is a little bit strange that FLOSSK is deleting streets and blaming the Serbs for that. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7714060 The

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-11 Thread Gent Thaçi
You can also see this changeset made by xybot: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7825961 It's not just us. But please don't say like that, we never like to do that. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: seems more like a mistake. Many streets (not

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-11 Thread Besfort Guri
Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica nothing more who can help me. I dont care who delete it and what was the problem but I just need to get the data back

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/11 Besfort Guri besig...@gmail.com: Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 , I have the data I try to upload again but it is not working I need to get back Mitrovica nothing more who can help me. There is a similar question here in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war, Mitrovica

2011-04-11 Thread ThomasB
Mitrovica was deleted by uboot http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7348595 could you please stop publicly blaming others for mistakes that you personally has made? ubot has deleted 15 ways and add some 60. The other edits were DupNode fixes. You personally have deleted the streets

[OSM-talk] Android app that has OS 1:25000?

2011-04-11 Thread Dave F.
Hi I'm after an android app that, has an Ordnance Survey 1:25k layer option. I've got Rmaps but that only loads 1:50k Is there such a beast? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Mikel Maron
http://brainoff.com/weblog/2011/04/11/1635 == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Thomas Davie
On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:27, Mikel Maron wrote: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2011/04/11/1635 Meh – the great thing about being open is that you get to take the moral high ground because you're not stopping other people doing what they like. Why spoil that by trying to stop google doing what they

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:27, Mikel Maron wrote: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2011/04/11/1635 Meh – the great thing about being open is that you get to take the moral high ground because you're not stopping other people

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Mikel Maron
Meh – the great thing about being open is that you get to take the moral high ground because you're not stopping other people doing what they like. Why spoil that by trying to stop google doing what they like? Sorry, no time for moral relativism right now.

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Thomas Davie
On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:43, Mikel Maron wrote: Meh – the great thing about being open is that you get to take the moral high ground because you're not stopping other people doing what they like. Why spoil that by trying to stop google doing what they like? Sorry, no time for moral

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 11 April 2011 16:48, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't mind about being open, why are you not just using Google's data already? Hello, thank you for your insightful comment, I will move immediately to Google and start using their data directly. Can you point out to me

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Thomas Davie
On 11 Apr 2011, at 17:16, Emilie Laffray wrote: On 11 April 2011 16:48, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't mind about being open, why are you not just using Google's data already? Hello, thank you for your insightful comment, I will move immediately to Google

[OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread Dermot McNally
On 11 April 2011 16:41, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: When Google turns Google MapMaker on in the US and Europe*, it will become much harder to recruit new mappers to our community (that is already quite small). Being passive about this issue means that OSM and its more-open data will

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Ed Avis
Could we perhaps work together with Google by organizing joint mapping parties where the resulting data is added to both maps? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and as with other pseudo-free map projects like People's Map, we should take this as a vindication of the OSM approach. I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/11 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: OSM is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If OSM is to survive at all it will be among bearded hippies too behind the times to have discovered Waze. OSM continues to decay. Nothing short of a cockeyed miracle could save OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Mike N
On 4/11/2011 12:50 PM, Ed Avis wrote: Could we perhaps work together with Google by organizing joint mapping parties where the resulting data is added to both maps? LOL, that's what I was thinking; let them organize the party, attend and enter wherever I wish. It's doubtful that they would

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
This was *directly* proposed to Google for a specific country (details have to remain private for now). It was even proposed to collect data into a neutral database and 'publish' it into both MM and OSM ... they said flat out they were not interested. It occurs to me that they simply want to own

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Mikel
Yup there's several examples of negotiating similar compromises, all for naught; among other stories of dastardly deeds. Happy to collect these into a follow up post. Mikel on the phone On Apr 11, 2011, at 13:18, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote: This was *directly* proposed to Google

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Ian Dees
Also relevant to this discussion (although not directly related to Mikel's post): Ed Parsons talks about the difference between OSM and MapMaker at minute 39 of this recording http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13672861 (incidentally this set of videos is also where someone from Google mentioned GMM

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Mikel, It's indeed a scary prospect to have Google sucking the life out of our burgeoning community. What suggestions do you have/actions are you taking[1] to help us compete with Google? - Serge [1] Either as an individual or as part of the OSM Foundation board.

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Steve Coast
I think 'sucking the life' is a bit of a strong term. On 4/11/2011 11:49 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Mikel, It's indeed a scary prospect to have Google sucking the life out of our burgeoning community. What suggestions do you have/actions are you taking[1] to help us compete with Google? -

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:41:42AM -0500, Ian Dees wrote: When Google turns Google MapMaker on in the US and Europe*, it will become much harder to recruit new mappers to our community (that is already quite small). Being passive about this issue means that OSM and its more-open data will

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Nic Roets
Let's not loose sight of a few facts / trends w.r.t. sub Saharan Africa: 1. The continent is not experiencing the same demographic dividend as other emerging economies. Birthrates will remain high for at least another 50 years. AIDS is decimating the economically active population.

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
Of course, its not about the license at all - if you appeal to fans of licenses you'll attract nobody. Google will take potential users by providing an awesome end product; the sort if thing everyone can appreciate. Make some awesome mapping products and you'll attract plenty of contributors and

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:14:28PM +0100, Joseph Reeves wrote: Of course, its not about the license at all - if you appeal to fans of licenses you'll attract nobody. Google will take potential users by providing an awesome end product; the sort if thing everyone can appreciate. Make some

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread pec...@gmail.com
2011/4/11 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2011/4/11 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: OSM is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If OSM is to survive at all it will be among bearded hippies too behind the times to have discovered Waze. OSM continues to

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 April 2011 20:14, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, its not about the license at all - if you appeal to fans of licenses you'll attract nobody. Google will take potential users by providing an awesome end product; the sort if thing everyone can appreciate. Make some

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread Mike Dupont
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:32 PM, pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Get air clear for licensing stuff - decide and move forward, give concrete deadlines for moving to ODbL. I know there is resistance but bird have already sung in this case - then better split up efforts to not to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread john whelan
I think you need to go more basic and ask what are the requirements? I don't think its ever been done. What are we trying to do and who is the target audience? Are we trying to create a map that can be used by others? Are we a social group that enjoys mapping? Why are we doing this? There

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
5. OSM is simply not successful enough in Africa to cover the tremendous opportunities presented in points 3 and 4. Lack of cheap Internet access on the African continent should take most of the blame. But it doesn't help that so many OSM apps are not available in Africa (Skobbler, ORS,

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
If you don't mind about being open, why are you not just using Google's data already? Hello, thank you for your insightful comment, I will move immediately to Google and start using their data directly. Can you point out to me where I can access their data so I can make an

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: Where can I access the OSM data? I know it is possible to download the hole planet, setup a database,... but that's not an easy task. Not easy, but possible, and done by literally hundreds of people all over the world. You are missing the point if you

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Bernhard Zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: Where can I access the OSM data? I know it is possible to download the hole planet, setup a database,... but that's not an easy task. Setting up a full mirror of any constantly changing data is non-trivial,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying (was Re: We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities)

2011-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 18:51 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/4/11 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: OSM is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If OSM is to survive at all it will be among bearded hippies too behind the times to have discovered Waze. OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Other Mapnik XML styles?

2011-04-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 April 2011 03:48, Daniel Sabo daniels...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any collections of other mapnik styles for OSM data? I'm looking for other map styles to render a osm2pgsql database with. 2 quick ones... MapQuest Open: https://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style OpenPisteMap:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying

2011-04-11 Thread Peter Budny
Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com writes: On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 18:51 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/4/11 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: OSM is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If OSM is to survive at all it will be among bearded hippies too

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is dying

2011-04-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 00:10 -0400, Peter Budny wrote: well I was very active, but there is nothing left to do Really? Nothing left to do? I ran some quick checks on a local copy of about 4 US states and found that 74% of it HAD NEVER BEEN EDITED after the initial Tiger import. there

[OSM-talk-nl] rcn checks werken weer

2011-04-11 Thread Roeland Douma
Howdy, Nu de lente weer is begonnen heb ik de rcn check query's wat verbeterd en wederom aangezet. Daar er nog wel enkele intensieve query's bij zitten draait het scriptje nu een keer per dag (wat op zich ook wel genoeg moet zijn). Ondertussen word er uiteraard ook nog gewerkt aan nog meer

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] rcn checks werken weer

2011-04-11 Thread rethna
Op 11 april 2011 12:06 schreef Foppe Benedictus foppe.benedic...@knkv.nethet volgende: Misschien is het mogelijk om een query te maken, die kijkt welke routes niet in een netwerk zitten, daar was een kaart voor bedenk ik me, maar ik weet niet of en waar die staat. Volgens mij bedoel je

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] rcn checks werken weer

2011-04-11 Thread Foppe Benedictus
Op 11-04-11 12:19, rethna schreef: Op 11 april 2011 12:06 schreef Foppe Benedictusfoppe.benedic...@knkv.net mailto:foppe.benedic...@knkv.net het volgende: Misschien is het mogelijk om een query te maken, die kijkt welke routes niet in een netwerk zitten, daar was een kaart voor

[OSM-talk-nl] Fietsknooppuntennetwerk Utrecht

2011-04-11 Thread Jeroen Muris
Collega's, Iets ten oosten van Gouda kwam ik enkele knooppunten tegen die volgens het bord dat daar stond behoren tot het fietsknooppuntennetwerk Utrecht. Dat netwerk wordt daar echter wel erg groot van (zowel in oppervlak als in aantal knooppunten). Ik heb wat ik tegenkwam aan de relatie

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Fietsknooppuntennetwerk Utrecht

2011-04-11 Thread Cartinus
On Monday 11 April 2011 20:30:39 Jeroen Muris wrote: Iets ten oosten van Gouda kwam ik enkele knooppunten tegen die volgens het bord dat daar stond behoren tot het fietsknooppuntennetwerk Utrecht. Dat netwerk wordt daar echter wel erg groot van (zowel in oppervlak als in aantal knooppunten).

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-11 Thread edodd
If you want to do some mapping from home, then BING imagery is usually more than adequete and is and will continue to be OSM comliant. This way your efforts will not be in vain whether you stay with OSM, or branch off to another project. I map in places where the best imagery is usually

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-11 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com To: Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-11 Thread Nick Hocking
The only thing that gives me hope is that all the current data can be forked into a new project Hi Neal, I don't think you have any problem then. Contribute to FOSM or even just continue to use the OSM toolset and database. Your data will still be available to the FOSM project. For the time

[Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
hi ! weiß einer von Euch ob man bei maposmatic ein anderes Blattformat als A4 einstellen kann ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
hat jemand schon was für Sporthallen in Gebrauch? leisure=pitch entspricht wohl eher einem Sportfeld, für Mehrzweckhallen habe ich nichts gefunden. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread Chris66
Am 11.04.2011 14:43, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: hat jemand schon was für Sporthallen in Gebrauch? leisure=pitch entspricht wohl eher einem Sportfeld, für Mehrzweckhallen habe ich nichts gefunden. moinsen, da gibt es: leisure=sports_centre (usage: 33.000) sport=multi (17.000) wenn das

Re: [Talk-de] Flosm POI-Karte weltweit

2011-04-11 Thread Detlev Reiners
Hallo Werner, Am 09.04.2011 17:05, schrieb Werner Beckmann: Kleineres Problemchen: wenn ich mit dem Mausrad reinzoome, dann komme ich bis zu einer Auflösung von 0.15cm oder so runter... Da sieht man eher nix mehr. Wenn das nicht Absicht ist, müsste man es anders begrenzen. Den Zoom haben wir

[Talk-de] ICE-Relationen

2011-04-11 Thread fly
Hi Ich frage mich ob man bei den ICE-Relationen nicht lieber Relationen für die Strecke zwischen einzelnen Bahnhöfen anlegt und diese Relationen jeweils den ICE-Relationen zuordnet. Im Momment sind die ICE-Relation doch sehr groß und auf manchen Strecken fahren eine ganze Menge ICEs ganz zu

Re: [Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 11. April 2011 14:49 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: da gibt es: leisure=sports_centre (usage: 33.000) sport=multi (17.000) sport=multi finde ich OK, wenn sich die Nutzung nicht auf eine Sportart beschränkt, aber für leisure fände ich einen neuen Wert besser, unter sports_centre

Re: [Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread Torsten Leistikow
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer schrieb am 11.04.2011 16:30: unter sports_centre verstehe ich bisher eine größere Sportanlage (einschl. der Gebäude und Plätze), Ab wann ist es eine groessere Anlage? Ab zwei Sporthallen? Ab einer Sporthalle mit angrenzendem Gymnastikraum? Eine Sporthalle mit zwei getrennten

Re: [Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 11. April 2011 17:03 schrieb Torsten Leistikow de_m...@gmx.de: Vom Tagging her zwischen einer einfachen und einer groesseren Sportanlage unterscheiden zu wollen, schient mir nicht sonderlich sinnvoll. mir auch nicht, die einzelnen Sportarten taggen wir ja bereits (gut, multi ist ein

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots

2011-04-11 Thread Frank Jäger
Am 11.04.2011 11:17, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: hi ! weiß einer von Euch ob man bei maposmatic ein anderes Blattformat als A4 einstellen kann ? Gruß Jan :-) Moin! Die Dokumentengröße richtet sich nach der Größe des Gebietes. Ich habe neulich einen Stadtplan von Minden (Stadtgrenze) erzeugen

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 11. April 2011 19:41 schrieb Frank Jäger fr...@fotodrachen.de: Die Dokumentengröße richtet sich nach der Größe des Gebietes. Ich habe neulich einen Stadtplan von Minden (Stadtgrenze) erzeugen lassen. Das PDF behauptete, es hätte die Größe von 3,20 x 3,60 Meter. Der größte verfügbare

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 11.04.2011 19:41, schrieb Frank Jäger: Am 11.04.2011 11:17, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: hi ! weiß einer von Euch ob man bei maposmatic ein anderes Blattformat als A4 einstellen kann ? Gruß Jan :-) Moin! Die Dokumentengröße richtet sich nach der Größe des Gebietes. Ich habe neulich einen

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots Nachtrag

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi, hier noch eine Anmerkung. Habe gerade ein Fenster über die Insel SYLT gezogen und bekomme die Meldung das das Fenster zu groß sei ! Das müßte doch aber auch irgendwie gehen - außer mit Schere und Klebeband! gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 10.04.2011 19:34, schrieb Florian Gross: Am Samstag 09 April 2011, 13:40:36 glaubte Jan Tappenbeck zu wissen: es gibt ja zwischenzeitlich jxapi und auch von mapquest eine entprechende alternativen. Bei beiden habe ich aber festgestellt das

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots Nachtrag

2011-04-11 Thread Henning Scholland
Wäre evtl. Maperitive etwas für dich? Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Open Data auf dem 14. Verwaltungskongress: Effizienter Staat

2011-04-11 Thread Gehling Marc
Hallo, nur zur Info. http://opendata-network.org/2011/04/open-data-auf-dem-verwaltungskongress-effizienter-staat/ Beim Forum XII: Geo-Daten. Da fehlt auf jeden Fall eine Person, die OSM vertritt. Bin nicht sicher, ob jemand dazu Lust hat, aber sinnvoll wäre es. Mfg Marc

Re: [Talk-de] Add-Tags:ein neues Werkzeug zur Verbindung Wikipedia - OpenStreetMap

2011-04-11 Thread Kolossos
Na, schauen wir uns mal die Einträge im Detail an: * Der Albania-Kosovo Highway wird in der engl. Wikipedia wie folgt beschrieben: also known as the Durres-Kukes Corridor in Albania, Vermice-Merdare Corridor and Ibrahim Rugova Highway in Kosovo, and Rruga e Kombit (Nation's Highway) in

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-11 Thread Henning Scholland
Am 11.04.2011 20:51, schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 10.04.2011 19:34, schrieb Florian Gross: Am Samstag 09 April 2011, 13:40:36 glaubte Jan Tappenbeck zu wissen: es gibt ja zwischenzeitlich jxapi und auch von mapquest eine entprechende alternativen. Bei beiden habe ich aber festgestellt das

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-11 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Am Montag 11 April 2011 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 10.04.2011 19:34, schrieb Florian Gross: Note that bbox queries have a maximum of 10 square degrees. ^^ bringt auch eine Fehlermeldung bei -4 bis +4 sind 8 Degree und von 35 bis 44 sind

Re: [Talk-de] Add-Tags:ein neues Werkzeug zur Verbindung Wikipedia - OpenStreetMap

2011-04-11 Thread Kolossos
Hallo, Am 09.04.2011 22:18, schrieb Tobias Knerr: Am 09.04.2011 19:52, schrieb Kolossos: Ich bekomme recht oft ein Result empty. Please select manually. Anscheinend ist das Tool eher sensibel, was die Schreibweise angeht, so dass Variationen in der Benennung eine automatische Zuordnung

Re: [Talk-de] Add-Tags:ein neues Werkzeug zur Verbindung Wikipedia - OpenStreetMap

2011-04-11 Thread Mike Dupont
Danke f[r die Ausfuerliche hilfe, also wir brauche noch was interactives. Ausserdem hab ich ganz viel in der richtung geonames und wikipedia gemacht : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Social_sciences/Geography,_cities,_regions_and_named_places/Kosovo Das habe ich aus GNS

Re: [Talk-de] Open Data auf dem 14. Verwaltungskongress: Effizienter Staat

2011-04-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Gehling Marc wrote: Beim Forum XII: Geo-Daten. Da fehlt auf jeden Fall eine Person, die OSM vertritt. Bin nicht sicher, ob jemand dazu Lust hat, aber sinnvoll wäre es. Irgendwie hab ich den Eindruck, dass diese Leute unter Open Data immer nur Daten verstehen, die die Verwaltung

Re: [Talk-de] maposmatic - große Plots Nachtrag

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 11.04.2011 20:53, schrieb Henning Scholland: Wäre evtl. Maperitive etwas für dich? Henning ja,ganz interessant .. habe das Plotten noch nicht hinbekommen und .. es fehlt mir dann die Straßenliste und das Raster. .. Zeit zur Einarbeitung. Gruß Jan :-)

Re: [Talk-de] alternative API-Dienste nutzen

2011-04-11 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 11.04.2011 21:09, schrieb Carsten Gerlach: Am Montag 11 April 2011 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 10.04.2011 19:34, schrieb Florian Gross: Note that bbox queries have a maximum of 10 square degrees. ^^ bringt auch eine Fehlermeldung bei

Re: [Talk-de] ICE-Relationen

2011-04-11 Thread Thomas Reincke
Am 11.04.2011 16:07, schrieb fly: Ich frage mich ob man bei den ICE-Relationen nicht lieber Relationen für die Strecke zwischen einzelnen Bahnhöfen anlegt und diese Relationen jeweils den ICE-Relationen zuordnet. Im Momment sind die ICE-Relation doch sehr groß und auf manchen Strecken fahren

Re: [Talk-de] Taggen von Sporthallen

2011-04-11 Thread Martin Simon
Am 11. April 2011 18:30 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Gebäude findet man unter allen möglichen Umständen, das Vorhandensein eines geschlossenen Ways mit building=yes reicht mir nicht aus, um eine Turnhalle zu beschreiben. Hier ist es durchaus häufig, dass eine Reihe von

[Talk-in] Mapping party at Fazilka on 16th April

2011-04-11 Thread H.S.Rai
Have a look at: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=211985345494242 -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in

Re: [Talk-it] Is Google using public domain data from OSM?

2011-04-11 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 10 aprile 2011 17:34, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto: Specificare...cosa sono i Tiger? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tiger http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/ -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___

[Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread MorSi
Non mi si caricano più le immagini del PCN. E' successo qualcosa?? Grazie Morsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:30AM +0200, MorSi wrote: Non mi si caricano più le immagini del PCN. E' successo qualcosa?? Ieri (sabato 10) non funzionava neanche a me, il servizio è tutt'ora KO. Sarà interessante vedere cosa diranno le statistiche d'uso [1] per sabato, io ho il sospetto che

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread Francesco Cherubini
neanche a me. On 11/04/2011, MorSi mo...@inwind.it wrote: Non mi si caricano più le immagini del PCN. E' successo qualcosa?? Grazie Morsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread Stefano Droghetti
Il giorno lun, 11/04/2011 alle 08.19 +0200, MorSi ha scritto: Non mi si caricano più le immagini del PCN. E' successo qualcosa?? Direi di sì. Anche il loro sito ufficiale è al momento irraggiungibile: www.pcn.minambiente.it/ Non per far politica, lo dico qualunque sia il colore politico al

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:16:22AM +0200, Stefano Droghetti wrote: Non per far politica, lo dico qualunque sia il colore politico al potere, ma mai come durante questo governo si è (deliberatamente?) lasciato andare in malora tutta la parte internet, Magari si riuscisse a vedere una

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 11 aprile 2011 09:34, Niccolo Rigacci o...@rigacci.org ha scritto: Per quanto riguarda il PCN i servizi allestiti sarebbero di notevole interesse, peccato che i termini d'uso siano a dir poco fumosi e discrezionali. A partire dalle licenze praticamente tutti i diritti riservati per

Re: [Talk-it] Nome del ponte e nome della via

2011-04-11 Thread Paolo Monegato
bridge:name=x mi sembra migliore di bridge_name=x, anche per gestire i vari old_name, alt_name, loc_name etc... Riassumendo direi che nel mio caso la soluzione migliore pare essere: name=nome della via + bridge:name=nome del ponte + bridge:old_name=vecchio nome del ponte ciao Paolo

Re: [Talk-it] Alcune domande da inesperto

2011-04-11 Thread Paolo Monegato
Il 10/04/2011 11:31, David Paleino ha scritto: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:24:56 +0200, Paolo Pozzan wrote: Altra cosa: se dalla homepage di OSM cerco via asiago, torri di quartesolo come risultato mi da: Strada residenziale Via Asiago, San Pietro Intrigogna, Torri di Quartesolo, Vicenza,

[Talk-it] Sentieri di montagna non segnati, trail_visibility ??

2011-04-11 Thread at1839
Saluti a tutti, mi chiamo Paolo e sono nuovo della lista. Per mestiere mi occupo di informatica e di reti, più che altro in ambiente *nix. Ho un passato ormai abbastanza remoto di 'ravanage' :) e tracciatura gps, materiale pubblicato allora su Giscover. Sono invece relativamente nuovo su OSM.

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri di montagna non segnati, trail_visibility ??

2011-04-11 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
2011/4/11 at1839 1...@uniurb.it Molte delle mie tracce gps sono relative alla riscoperta di vecchi sentieri che appaiono sulle tavolette IGM ma non sulle cartine commerciali; si tratta ovviamente di sentieri non segnalati con gli ordinari bolli rossi etc. Mi trovo perciò in imbarazzo con il

Re: [Talk-it] Alcune domande da inesperto

2011-04-11 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 11 aprile 2011 12:08, Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com ha scritto: Un eventuale uso di is_in=x risolverebbe questo problema? non so darti una risposta ma is_in è uno dei tag più inutili di osm :-) Ciao Paolo -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri di montagna non segnati, trail_visibility ??

2011-04-11 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 11 aprile 2011 12:19, at1839 1...@uniurb.it ha scritto: Saluti a tutti, mi chiamo Paolo e sono nuovo della lista. Per mestiere mi occupo di informatica e di reti, più che altro in ambiente *nix. Ho un passato ormai abbastanza remoto di 'ravanage' :) e tracciatura gps, materiale pubblicato

Re: [Talk-it] Non mi funziona il PCN

2011-04-11 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/11 Niccolo Rigacci o...@rigacci.org: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:16:22AM +0200, Stefano Droghetti wrote: Chi ha seguito la storia del portale italia.it con i miliardi di euro pompati nel nulla al meno mi accolgono in tedesco (se vedi qui: http://www.deutschland.de non c'è Italiano),

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri di montagna non segnati, trail_visibility ??

2011-04-11 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 11 aprile 2011 12:24, Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.com ha scritto: Un semplice highway=path  senza alcun ref potrebbe andare? di solito ho mappato così sentieri senza segnavia ed eventualmente anche con traccia incerta. potresti usare in aggiunta un note= / comment= per indicare

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