[talk-ph] Keep safe and dry

2013-08-19 Thread maning sambale
Not mapping related but I hope everyone are safe and dry. Don't go out and try to map today! Maning Sambale (mobile) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Possible problem with Urbis data import in Brussels

2013-08-19 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi, I think we all know that this import is supported by our local community here in Belgium. What I know about imports: - Always use separate accounts - Always announce on the imports list oh, and maybe that wiki page should change then? I think it needs to be merged with this one:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Possible problem with Urbis data import in Brussels

2013-08-19 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Then the guidelines are clear I guess: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines Maybe we can create a separate account? Something like UrbisImport? Like suggested here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Use_a_dedicated_user_account Met vriendelijke groeten, Best

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Possible problem with Urbis data import in Brussels

2013-08-19 Thread Jo
Okay, then I looked at the wrong page, apparently. It all started as a series of 'mechanical' operations on the data, but before submitting some human intelligence still needs to be applied to make it all fit with the existing data. We can, of course, create an account like UrbisImport and then

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote: iD 1.1 displays relationship memberships in the sidebar much like P2 does. We plan to add additional functionality (e.g. highlighting routes on the map, visual rendering of turn restrictions) in future versions,

[OSM-talk] Upcoming potential website features

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Norman
I'm trying something new to get more visibility to upcoming potential website changes, as well as recent website changes. I won't include the introductory material next time, but it's worth explaining what I'm doing this time. The purpose is both to get a wider audience for the discussion of

[OSM-talk] Mapping flooded Khartum in OpenStreetMap on the World Humanitarian Day 19-Aug 2013.

2013-08-19 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi all, Below is an email related to the World Humanitairian Day of this 19-Aug 2013 by Severin which has been posted on HOT and French speaking talk lists. Have a quick read and join this mapping effort focused in Khartum. Excellent day, Nicolas

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 18/ago/2013, alle ore 19:04, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com ha scritto: As has been discussed before, we are not planning to add intrusive Are you sure? warnings to iD. Such second-guessing disrupts legitimate workflows and turns away new users, who typically already

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Lester Caine
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: As has been discussed before, we are not planning to add intrusive Are you sure? warnings to iD. Such second-guessing disrupts legitimate workflows and turns away new users, who typically already feel anxiety about doing something wrong. with that approach (letting

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/8/19 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Relations are fragile and if they are almost hidden for the mapper a warning should be the minimal precaution (or alternatively don't let iD users do these kind of edits where relations are involved and would be damaged). A turn

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Back to the original question about iD being the default editor: Originally at least part of the thinking behind iD was to have a newbie-friendly editor [0]. As seen before and in this thread, more advanced users want to keep adding functionality, which will tend to make it less simple and

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 19.08.2013 15:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: with that approach (letting the users incidentally damage turn restrictions or other relations without warning by deleting members or combining them in a harmful way ) It has been claimed often that iD damages relations. Can we somehow

Re: [OSM-talk] New welcome page

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Martin, On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Could we extend the basic terms on the new welcome page? The new users I talk to tell me that the number one

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I think this is a great solution to the tension between OSM not endorsing proprietary data sites and enabling people to do what they want to do. Moving discussion to the project in question:

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread NopMap
Hi! I have just worked through all the previous posts here and experimented with the test instance in my home turf. The short anwer is: No, I do not believe that ID is in a state to make it the default editor, especially not to welcome newbies. The long answer: I still see very bad performance

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: I still see very bad performance in Firefox. I noticed that editing has been limited to zoom 16 and higher which is a very crude way to limit the data displayed. But it also makes orientation very difficult when you have to move

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread John Firebaugh
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: with that approach (letting the users incidentally damage turn restrictions or other relations without warning by deleting members or combining them in a harmful way ) new users will get even more anxious as

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. To try and

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nop, I'm referring to the delete button but also to the make-square, make-round and rotate options. You do not need these to draw streets on top of tracks or aerial imagery, which is the basic start of mapping. Quite a few people start with tracing buildings nowadays, a task for which this

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: -- Going off on a tangent here and leaving the scope of immediate iD improvements - someone else has posted that a while ago in a different discussion. Maybe we are far too obsessed with trying to make sure nothing is

[OSM-talk] New users and post-edit processing (was Making iD the default editor on osm.org)

2013-08-19 Thread Kathleen Danielson
I also think this is a great idea. To me, the idea that we can release a piece of software until it's perfect because if a new user makes a mistake he or she will received nasty emails is fundamentally flawed. Granted, there's a bit of hyperbole in there, but I appreciate this different view of

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Toby Murray
We aren't trying to make The Perfect Editor here. We are trying to replace an aging editor with something more current. Let us not make perfection the enemy of progress. Of course there are still improvements to be made but iD is definitely a fantastic bit of code. We can keep bikeshedding it

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Stephen Hope
On 20 August 2013 07:57, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think one shouldn't be religious about warnings/questions/popup messages - sure it's a UI challenge to do them well but simply not doing them at all, ever, doesn't automatically mean you have a good UI. However, a pop-up

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread John Firebaugh
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: It has been claimed often that iD damages relations. Can we somehow substantiate that claim? Could anyone provide a detailed description of a non-esoteric use case that involves * a kind (and structure) of relation

[OSM-talk] Photo Competition

2013-08-19 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi All, To get you excited for State of the Map in 17 days time, we have launched a photo competition to find the most usual object / sign / situation found whilst surveying. You don't need to be attending SOTM 2013 to enter this competition so head over to the blog post [1] or wiki page [2] to

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Kai Krueger
brycenesbitt wrote 5. There are concerns that iD makes deletion of features more prominent in the UI, compared to prior editors. In all this discussion if the delete feature, or rectanglify is too prominent, I always wonder why people don't just undo the accidental mistake? Even as an

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Kai Krueger
Toby Murray-2 wrote We aren't trying to make The Perfect Editor here. We are trying to replace an aging editor with something more current. Let us not make perfection the enemy of progress. Although a perfect editor would of course be nice, it isn't really achievable so yes, we don't want

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, Since everybody is pilling onto this, here is my 2 cents. I find the P2 editor completely unusable, it is too slow, its is very hard to use, and requires me to enable a completely insecure plugin to run. I would not be involved in the project if I did not discover JOSM shortly after

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 74, Issue 7

2013-08-19 Thread Li Xia
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 74, Issue 7

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Norman
Source tags don't provide any kind of attribution because they can be (and are) removed at any time by any user of the database. Attribution is provided by listing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors From: Li Xia [mailto:lisxia1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:50

Re: [talk-au] Incorporating public information into OSM - Legal situation

2013-08-19 Thread Daniel O'Connor
CC-BY-A is fine to my knowledge - you can fulfill the attribution requirements with an appropriate attribution in the wiki. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Australian_government_public_information_datasets

Re: [Talk-br] Má importação em Sobradinho

2013-08-19 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Nesse changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16556781 dá para ver. É bem estranho onde existe acentuação (que aparece com símbolo errado) e ruas com nome Rua ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Frage zum JOSM Windows Installer und -Webstart

2013-08-19 Thread jotpe
Java Webstart bei Wikipedia Bei jedem Start einer Java-Web-Start-Anwendung kann überprüft werden, ob neuere Komponenten vorliegen. So kann der Anwender stets mit der aktuellen vom Autor des Programms zur Verfügung gestellten Version arbeiten. Eine einmal heruntergeladene Version einer Anwendung

Re: [Talk-de] Frage zum JOSM Windows Installer und -Webstart

2013-08-19 Thread tumsi
Original-Nachricht Betreff: [Talk-de] Frage zum JOSM Windows Installer und -Webstart Datum: Sun Aug 18 2013 21:44:48 GMT+0200 Von: Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Windows: Wenn eine neue JOSM Version vorliegt, wird man zwecks Update auf diese Seite

[Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Moin, kann sich mal jemand die Grenze von Deutschland (Rel. 1.111.111) anschauen? Ich sehe da ein großes Loch im Westen. Zwischen Holland und Frankreich fehlt einiges. Beim schnellen Durchschauen der Änderungen ist mir jetzt nichts gravierendes aufgefallen. CU Jörg -- Jörg Frings-Fürst

Re: [Talk-de] Anwender in der Nähe

2013-08-19 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 11:55:48PM +0200, Jo wrote: Was ich mich schon einige Zeit erwunsche is die Möglichkeit eine Botschaft zu erfassen, dann zu sagen in welches Gebiet der relevant ist. In zweiter Schritt, würde sie dann von jemand nachgelesen und wenn Openstreetmap related und kein

Re: [Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread Walter Nordmann
Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote Ich sehe da ein großes Loch im Westen. Zwischen Holland und Frankreich fehlt einiges. Beim schnellen Durchschauen der Änderungen ist mir jetzt nichts gravierendes aufgefallen. Hi Jörg, was hast du denn für Probleme mit meinem Baby? (1) Von der Geometrie ist/war das

Re: [Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hallo Walter, ja ich habe es mit josm angeschaut. ;-(( Werde dann mal schauen ob es dazu schon einen Bugreport gibt. Danke. CU Jörg Am Montag, den 19.08.2013, 02:32 -0700 schrieb Walter Nordmann: Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote Ich sehe da ein großes Loch im Westen. Zwischen Holland und Frankreich

[Talk-de] PostgreSQL nach pbf

2013-08-19 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hallo, gibt es eine einfach Möglichkeit aus einer Postgresql Datenbank im Snapshotschema einen durch ein Polygon abgegrenzten Bereich in ein pfb-File zu schreiben? Ich habe bis jetzt nur osmosis mit einem Zwischenschritt über eine bounding-box gefunden. $OSMOSIS \ --read-pgsql host=XX

Re: [Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread Walter Nordmann
Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote Hallo Walter, ja ich habe es mit josm angeschaut. ;-(( Werde dann mal schauen ob es dazu schon einen Bugreport gibt. danke, hätte ich auch schon lange machen sollen. Es liegt wohl daran, dass er Objekte in aufsteigender Folge runterlädt und einen weiteren Durchgang

Re: [Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread Walter Nordmann
nö, parallel - ein ziemlich kühner Versuch meinerseits wurde damals eiskalt abgeschmettert. Hab die Sache danach etwas aus den Augen verloren, sorge aber dafür, dass die Rel technisch sauber bleibt. Hauptproblem war, dass alle Anwendungen, die was mit den Rohdaten der Grenzen machen, auf

Re: [Talk-de] Deutschland Grenze Relation 1.111.111

2013-08-19 Thread fly
On 19.08.2013 18:06, Walter Nordmann wrote: nö, parallel - ein ziemlich kühner Versuch meinerseits wurde damals eiskalt abgeschmettert. Hab die Sache danach etwas aus den Augen verloren, sorge aber dafür, dass die Rel technisch sauber bleibt. Hauptproblem war, dass alle Anwendungen, die was

[Talk-de] Bundestagswahl 2013, Wahlkreise in OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Harald Schwarz
Hallo, ich habe angefangen die 299 Wahlkreise für die Bundestagswahl 2013 in OSM einzutragen. Die Eingabe erfolgte in folgender Weise: Zuerst habe ich für jeden Wahlkreis eine Relation angelegt und in diese als Mitglieder die in OSM schon fast vollständig vorliegenden Grenzrelationen

Re: [Talk-de] Bundestagswahl 2013, Wahlkreise in OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Walter Nordmann
naja, begeistert bin ich gerade nicht. Bei der Election-Relation handelt es sich -mal wieder- um eine total überflüssige Sammel-Relation. Sie enthält in Listenform alle Städte, Orte, ... die sich innerhalb der Grenze eines Wahlkreises befinden. Die Frage Welcher Ort liegt in welchem Wahlkreis?

Re: [Talk-de] Bundestagswahl 2013, Wahlkreise in OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Harald Schwarz
Hallo Walter, leider kann ich deiner Argumentation nicht zustimmen. Die von mir angelegten Mitgliedsrelationen sind nicht total überflüssig ,sondern enthalten Informationen, die sich allein mit einfachen spatialen Abfragen nicht beantworten lassen. Nehmen wir als Beispiel den von dir

Re: [Talk-de] Bundestagswahl 2013, Wahlkreise in OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Harald, On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:46:25PM +0200, Harald Schwarz wrote: Hallo Walter, leider kann ich deiner Argumentation nicht zustimmen. Die von mir angelegten Mitgliedsrelationen sind nicht total überflüssig ,sondern enthalten Informationen, die sich allein mit einfachen spatialen

Re: [Talk-de] Bundestagswahl 2013, Wahlkreise in OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Walter Nordmann
Harald Schwarz wrote Es ist wohl nicht trivial, genau diese Aufzählung mittels einer einfachen spatialen Abfrage aus den OSM-Daten und der Grenz-Relation zu gewinnen. Das geht nur mit erheblichem Aufwand. naja, ich hatte vorhin mal 5 Minuten Zeit: ... Ohne Mitgliedsrelation gäbe es also

[Talk-de] Velomap für Linux-Nutzer?

2013-08-19 Thread Manuel Reimer
Hallo, ich wollte mir gerne testhalber die Velomap auf mein Garmin packen. Bisher konnte ich aber nur EXE-Dateien zum Runterladen finden. Wo finde ich das Image, das ich einfach auf die SD-Karte kopieren kann? Danke im Voraus Gruß Manuel ___

Re: [Talk-de] Velomap für Linux-Nutzer?

2013-08-19 Thread Henning Scholland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Versuch einfach mal, die exe-Datei zu entpacken. Henning Am 19.08.2013 23:26, schrieb Manuel Reimer: Hallo, ich wollte mir gerne testhalber die Velomap auf mein Garmin packen. Bisher konnte ich aber nur EXE-Dateien zum Runterladen finden. Wo

Re: [Talk-de] Velomap für Linux-Nutzer?

2013-08-19 Thread Dirk Sohler
Manuel Reimer schrieb: Bisher konnte ich aber nur EXE-Dateien zum Runterladen finden. Wo finde ich das Image, das ich einfach auf die SD-Karte kopieren kann? Aktuell wohl gar nicht, vgl. Abschnitt „A: Installing Maps to Computer“

[Talk-de] Anzahl lanes bei forward und backward und turn

2013-08-19 Thread Gertrud Simson
Hallo, ich habe gestern ein bisschen mit lanes und turn:lanes gespielt. Dabei habe ich diese teilweise z.B. folgendermaßen eingetragen: lanes=3 lanes:*backward*=1 turn:lanes:*forward*=through|right oder: lanes=5 lanes:*backward*=3 turn:lanes:*forward*=through|right

[Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe 5./6. Oktober

2013-08-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, im Oktober ist wieder ein Hack-Weekend in Karlsruhe: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Hack_Weekend_October_2013 Wie immer sind alle herzlich willkommen! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [Talk-de] Velomap für Linux-Nutzer?

2013-08-19 Thread Tim Michelsen
Bisher konnte ich aber nur EXE-Dateien zum Runterladen finden. Wo finde ich das Image, das ich einfach auf die SD-Karte kopieren kann? https://github.com/btittelbach/openmtbmap_openvelomap_linux also: aber habe ich nicht getested: https://github.com/quatauta/openmtbmap-scripts

[Talk-it] Sentieri su mappe sul territorio

2013-08-19 Thread emmexx
Ho percorso nei giorni scorsi (ma non solo) dei sentieri che non hanno segnavia standard. I segnavia sono in genere generici (Linea Cadorna) ma vi sono vari itinerari e i segnavia non li distinguono. I percorsi sono presenti su mappe cartacee e su mappe poste su cartelli presenti all'inizio o alla

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread girarsi_liste
Il 19/08/2013 11:48, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, scusate lo sfogo. Sto guardando Varazze (SV), e più edifici vedo (con source=Regione Liguria), più mi chiedo cosa si sono fumati in Regione. Edifici mancanti, storti, topografie palesemente inventate, suddivisioni fantasiose tra

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo
Chi è che ha effettuato l'import? Comunque guardando il centro di Varazze non vedo questi problemi :/ Sono anche allineati sufficientemente con la PCN2006, potresti indicarmi una zona dove ci sono tutti questi problemi? Leonardo Il 19/08/2013 11:48, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: Ciao a tutti,

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread sabas88
Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 11:48, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comha scritto: Ciao a tutti, Ciao Simone, scusate lo sfogo. Sto guardando Varazze (SV), e più edifici vedo (con source=Regione Liguria), più mi chiedo cosa si sono fumati in Regione. Edifici mancanti, storti, topografie

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione italiana della nuova schermata di benvenuto OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo
Quinta revisione, trasformato tutto da voi-tu. Questa potrebbe essere quella definitiva quindi vi invito a dare un vostro parere e se tutti sono d'accorto, la inoltriamo a chi di dovere :) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nW-KNzGZ788yoM7BPxujCkVAb3gGHpOcuvyfqLP1lw8/edit?usp=sharing Forza

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 19/08/2013 12:08, sabas88 ha scritto: Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 11:48, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, Ciao Simone, scusate lo sfogo. Sto guardando Varazze (SV), e più edifici vedo (con source=Regione

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 12:08, sabas88 saba...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 11:48, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comha scritto: Ciao a tutti, Ciao Simone, scusate lo sfogo. Sto guardando Varazze (SV), e più edifici vedo (con source=Regione Liguria), più mi

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread sabas88
Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 12:41, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comha scritto: Questo è quello che ha passato il convento :D Lo so... ma che razza di convento abbiamo?! :-D Ho fatto una mappa di prova dei torrenti di Genova con il reticolo idrografico per pubblicarla in un gruppo FB

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione italiana della nuova schermata di benvenuto OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Mario Pichetti
Il 19/08/2013 12:12, Leonardo ha scritto: Quinta revisione, trasformato tutto da voi-tu. Questa potrebbe essere quella definitiva quindi vi invito a dare un vostro parere e se tutti sono d'accorto, la inoltriamo a chi di dovere :)

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione italiana della nuova schermata di benvenuto OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo
Ciao, proprio per questo è necessario commentare sul documento :D Comunque la frase originale è questa: Welcome to OpenStreetMap, the free and editable map of the world. Now that you're signed up, you're all set to get started mapping. Here's a quick guide with the most important things you

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 19/ago/2013, alle ore 12:41, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per carità, non è che rovinino la mappa, ma mi urta lo stesso vederli. secondo me i dati importati se non sono buoni danneggiano OSM in generale, perché chi comincia e si guarda cosa hanno fatto gli

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri su mappe sul territorio

2013-08-19 Thread emmexx
Il 08/19/2013 01:46 PM, Dario Zontini scrisse: Personalmante se trovo un sentiero con dei cartelli all'inizio e fine, non saranno sentieri ufficiali CAI ma qualche ente (ufficio turistico, comune, parco, ecc...) propongono quel'itinerario rendendolo ufficiale e pertanto anche solo a livello

[Talk-it] Aiuto per funzione di JOSM

2013-08-19 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Nella situazione di linee sovrapposte (ad esempio aree adiacenti), in JOSM selezionando il segmento comune si ottiene la selezione di una sola delle aree interessate. In questa situazione esiste un modo per passare all'altra area che ha il segmento in comune? Grazie dell'interessamento Beppe

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto per funzione di JOSM

2013-08-19 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 16:14, Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.itha scritto: Nella situazione di linee sovrapposte (ad esempio aree adiacenti), in JOSM selezionando il segmento comune si ottiene la selezione di una sola delle aree interessate. In questa situazione esiste un modo per

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo Frassetto
Secondo me la verità sta nel mezzo: una zona senza niente non invoglia per nulla a migliorare (soprattutto ricalcare gli edifici dalle ortofoto), ma una zona caricata con dati raffazzonati fa sprecare tempo nel sistemare gli errori di import. È per questo che nei miei import nel Veneto degli

Re: [Talk-it] Traduzione italiana della nuova schermata di benvenuto OSM

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo Frassetto
Era per far parte di quel gruppo di lingue presenti al debutto della nuova pagina di benvenuto :) Il giorno 19 agosto 2013 15:00, Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net ha scritto: Solo una nota: tutta la traduzione si può fare tramite translatewiki questo il link:

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 19/ago/2013, alle ore 17:45, Leonardo Frassetto kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto: Secondo me la verità sta nel mezzo: una zona senza niente non invoglia per nulla a migliorare se fosse vero avremmo ancora una mappa vuota ;-) ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] Qualità edifici importati

2013-08-19 Thread Leonardo Frassetto
Riformulo meglio, una zona già con una base solida in partenza (strade principali, poligoni degli edifici) invoglia maggiormente a portare ulteriori migliorie a quello già presente. Gli import non servono a inserire i microdettagli (ovvero i negozi, sentieri, fontanelle,ecc...) ma a evitare un

Re: [Talk-it] Sentieri su mappe sul territorio

2013-08-19 Thread Luca Delucchi
2013/8/19 Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it: Mi sembra un caso per un tag trail_visibility con valore almeno intermediate. Se il tracciato lo devi ricavare dalla mappa priva di licenza non puoi usarlo, ma se lo hai percorso e rilevato personalmente, perché non inserirlo? +1, anche se hai

Re: [Talk-it] Frecce con indicazioni

2013-08-19 Thread Luca Delucchi
2013/8/17 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Usare guidepost non mi sembra appropriato ma nemmeno information=board mi convince. Cosa suggerite? di usare guidepost con historic=yes grazie maxx -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org

Re: [Talk-co] ¿Fotos aéreas para OSM Bogotá?

2013-08-19 Thread Ariel Nunez
Yo vi una de estas hace dos días sobrevolando la vía 40 como a 8 metros de altura. 2013/8/16 hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/bogota/lanzan-plan-piloto-de-vehiculos-aereos-no-tripulados_12997962-4 Autoridades vigilarán a Bogotá con cámaras aéreas Por:

Re: [Talk-co] ¿Fotos aéreas para OSM Bogotá?

2013-08-19 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
Chévere. Un marcado deseo dentro de esta comunidad siempre ha sido contar con imágenes aéreas actualizadas. Dimos una larga batalla hace unos años para obtenerlas desde el Gobierno; ahora los distritos (al menos el de Bogotá) están generándolas, quizás pueda ser una puerta a tocar.

Re: [Talk-pt] Tradução da próxima welcome page

2013-08-19 Thread Jorge Gustavo Rocha
Obrigado, Francisco. Já fui ao translatewiki registar-me e aguardo permissão para contribuir com o que falta traduzir. Entretanto, as traduções que vi parecem-me bastante sensatas. Abraço, Jorge Em 19-08-2013 15:34, f.dos.san...@free.fr escreveu: O merge foi feito no site principal ontem

[Talk-pt] Limites administrativos no wiki

2013-08-19 Thread f . dos . santos
Ola, Fiz varias alterações nas páginas do wiki dos limites administrativos, em resumo : A página [1] descreve o processo de importação da CAOP em geral. A ideia é de juntar todas as informações importantes e no final fazer uma versão em inglês para ser apresentada a lista

Re: [Talk-ca] App for mapping running/cycling itineraries/routing

2013-08-19 Thread Daniel Begin
Bonjour Yves, Il y a toujours moyen d'utiliser le tag ele=* ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele ) sur chaque coordonnée d'intérêt mais pour ce qui est de faire apparaître la valeur aux intersections, c'est plus une question liée au programme de rendu (rendering)... Daniel -Original

[OSM-talk-fr] Circuits vélotourisme en Vaucluse

2013-08-19 Thread Tony Emery
Bonjour à tous, Comme vous le savez peut-être déjà, la ville d'Orange vient de se doter de 3 circuits de vélotourisme. En accord avec l'office de tourisme, j'ai donc réalisé des plans à inclure dans la publication faite par le Conseil Général de Vaucluse et, comme vous vous en doutez, ces plans

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nominatim : type d'objets OSM retrouvés

2013-08-19 Thread David Crochet
Bonjour Le 18/08/2013 23:09, Yves Pratter a écrit : Je ne suis pas à l'aise avec cet outil : j'ai trouvé Grave yard ici : https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ASearchTranslationsquery=Osm%3AGeocoder.search+osm+nominatim.prefix.amenity.grave+yard mais pas yard. C'est un oubli dans

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rendu des libellés bidirectionnels (support pour l'écriture arabe ou hébreu)

2013-08-19 Thread Bruno Cortial
Le 18 août 2013 21:40, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.25233/1.97501 On constate ici dans TOUS les rendus Mapnik un bogue pour l'affichage des textes bidirectionnels : l'affichage n'est correct QUE s'il n'y a pas de saut de ligne au milieu

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 19 août, journée mondiale de l'aide humanitaire, cartographie de Khartoum

2013-08-19 Thread Christian Quest
Et hop: http://openstreetmap.fr/2013-08-19-journee-mondiale-humanitaire Le 19 août 2013 04:22, Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Le 19 août est la journée mondiale de l'humanitairehttp://worldhumanitarianday.org/fr . Dans le cadre de cet événement nous vous

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Circuits vélotourisme en Vaucluse

2013-08-19 Thread Christian Quest
Tu as fait comment pour ce fond carto ? Une copie d'écran ? Ca suffit en résolution pour une impression papier ? Une sortie en double résolution est plus appropriée pour une impression. Je crains que si les traits de coupe sont respectés, la mention d'attribution sur la carte va partir à la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nominatim : type d'objets OSM retrouvés

2013-08-19 Thread Christian Quest
Et là c'est Grave qui a besoin d'être traduit et pas Yard... ceci explique peut être cela ? Le 19 août 2013 08:52, David Crochet david.croc...@online.fr a écrit : Bonjour Le 18/08/2013 23:09, Yves Pratter a écrit : Je ne suis pas à l'aise avec cet outil : j'ai trouvé Grave yard ici :

[OSM-talk-fr] Repère de nivellement manquant

2013-08-19 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Bonjour, Je viens de repérer sur le terrain un repère de nivellement manquant, ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2423836813 Il faudrait donc vérifier un de ces quatres que la base importée est toujours présente, et à la bonne place. Au passage, les coordonnées de ce point sont

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nominatim : type d'objets OSM retrouvés

2013-08-19 Thread Yves Pratter
Je ne suis pas à l'aise avec cet outil : Toujours pas à l'aise avec la navigation, mais j'ai trouvé la page de base pour osm : https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Open_Street_Map Translatewiki ne propose qu'ne traduction que si les concepteur du logiciel mettent un mot, un terme, une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nouveau Rendu des Tuiles France - partie 2

2013-08-19 Thread Pieren
2013/8/18 Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr: MBTiles est bien un format d'image même s'il contient en interne des sous-images, son but est de stocker une image plus grande afin de pouvoir la servir facilement par morceaux sans avoir à faire des calculs compliqués. Mais c'est un format

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] man_made=power_pole et man_made=power_tower

2013-08-19 Thread François Lacombe
Bonjour, La proposition actuellement en cours sur les lignes électriques a été mise à jour à la suite de cette discussion. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_transmission_refinement#man_made.3Dpower_tower_or_man_made.3Dpower_pole La proposition introduit maintenant

[OSM-talk-fr] Comment cartographier des bassins filtrants ?

2013-08-19 Thread Yves Pratter
Bonjour, Quel attribut mettre pour les bassins filtrants de station d'épuration de Grimonpont ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/234071862 A défaut, je mettrais landuse=basin. Il serait peut-être utile de définir un nouveau tag car c'est un système qui se développe de plus en plus ?

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Circuits vélotourisme en Vaucluse

2013-08-19 Thread Tony Emery
cquest wrote Je crains que si les traits de coupe sont respectés, la mention d'attribution sur la carte va partir à la poubelle une fois passé au massicot... Je le crains aussi. Je vais envoyer un message à l'ADTHT pour qu'ils rectifient le tir. Du coup, j'ai commencé à renseigner les

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment cartographier des bassins filtrants ?

2013-08-19 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Le lundi 19 août 2013 11:27:53 Yves Pratter a écrit : Bonjour, Quel attribut mettre pour les bassins filtrants de station d'épuration de Grimonpont ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/234071862 A défaut, je mettrais landuse=basin. Il serait peut-être utile de définir un nouveau

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment cartographier des bassins filtrants ?

2013-08-19 Thread Christophe Merlet
Le 19/08/2013 11:27, Yves Pratter a écrit : Bonjour, Quel attribut mettre pour les bassins filtrants de station d'épuration de Grimonpont ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/234071862 A défaut, je mettrais *landuse=basin*. Il serait peut-être utile de définir un nouveau tag car c'est un

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Circuits vélotourisme en Vaucluse

2013-08-19 Thread Christian Quest
Le 19 août 2013 11:31, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : cquest wrote Je crains que si les traits de coupe sont respectés, la mention d'attribution sur la carte va partir à la poubelle une fois passé au massicot... Je le crains aussi. Je vais envoyer un message à l'ADTHT pour qu'ils

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment cartographier des bassins filtrants ?

2013-08-19 Thread Yves Pratter
Si je comprends bien, c'est une station d'épuration par lagunage ? Exactement :-) Dans ce cas, j'aurai bien vu une spécialisation de man_made=wastewater_plant Ce n'est pas un type de station d'épuration (au sens d'usine), mais plutôt un bassin spécialisé. Dans tous les cas, je ne sais pas

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment cartographier des bassins filtrants ?

2013-08-19 Thread Pieren
2013/8/19 Nicolas Dumoulin nicolas_openstreetmap@dumoulin63.net: Si je comprends bien, c'est une station d'épuration par lagunage ? Dans ce cas, j'aurai bien vu une spécialisation de man_made=wastewater_plant https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwastewater_plant plutôt une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Amélioration rendu FR sur les zooms faibles...

2013-08-19 Thread Christian Quest
Un peu de progrès sur le front des libellés de villes/villages... Je procède désormais en 2 passes, l'un pour positionner en priorité les libellés des principales villes, puis on ajoute les autres éléments comme les ref des routes, puis une deuxième passe de remplissage pour combler les espaces

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Amélioration rendu FR sur les zooms faibles...

2013-08-19 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 19/08/2013 12:03, Christian Quest wrote: Résultat: - osmfr avant: http://cl.ly/image/2m1t0c3r1Y2B - osmfr après: http://cl.ly/image/3p3K3n0Y410H Connaissant le Pays d'Ouche et la vallée de l'Avre illustrés dans cet extrait, je témoigne que les toponymes sélectionnés par le rendu sont

[OSM-talk-fr] Recopie cartes IGN

2013-08-19 Thread Jean-Claude Repetto
Bonjour, Je viens de trouver de nouveaux exemples récents de recopie des informations à partir d'une carte IGN. Voici quelques liens : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2420519058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2420519068 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2411889811

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Amélioration rendu FR sur les zooms faibles...

2013-08-19 Thread Ista Pouss
Nettement mieux, quasi parfait dans l'ensemble. Heureusement pour ma passion de la critique surtout pas constructive encore, toujours et partout, j'ai trouvé ce qui me semble être des maladresses dans le cas de nom de ville assez long, dont la situation urbaine est décentrée par rapport à la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Amélioration rendu FR sur les zooms faibles...

2013-08-19 Thread HELFER Denis
Pour les aéroports, l'Euroairport Basel-Mulhouse-Freibourg apparaît et disparait au gré des zooms. J'image que c'est du à la longueur du nom. Pas moyen de découper ? http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=13lat=47.59468lon=7.53298layers=B00FFF

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