Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Marián Kyral
Ahoj, Dne 24.2.2018 v 01:21 r00t napsal(a): > Ahoj, > > Systematicky mapuju schranky v Praze a obcas narazim na to ze nekdo schranku > asi > podle POI importeru dal do mapy, ale uz ji nikam neposunul. Takze je treba > uprostred domu nebo stredu ulice. Tyhle schranky se daji detekovat podle >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^ djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 05:43, JB a écrit : > There is something I don't get. > Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more « > discontinuity »? > In France, some commercial map (the

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread JB
There is something I don't get. Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more « discontinuity »? In France, some commercial map (the most sold, I think) use a different rendering for trunk and primary, because you drive faster on trunks. I like it, I think they like it, because

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
As an exercise (and I'm curious about your thoughts on this), I found the main routes between place=city within Czechia (didn't have time to include cities in adjacent countries, bear that in mind). Here's the result [1] using the old colour scheme (motorway=blue, trunk=green, primary=red; with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Matej Lieskovský wrote: > Ok, look here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/50.3124/13.8720 > The highway=trunk section is a bypass built to motorway specification. It is > not even a motorroad, because it is so short, but the change

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Jérôme Amagat
Le 23 février 2018 à 22:13, marc marc a écrit : > Le 23. 02. 18 à 14:55, Jérôme Amagat a écrit : > > comment ont fait pour différencier par exemple les Alpes et un de ses > > massifs? > > name=Les Alpes <> name=le nom du massif ? :) > Je parler bien sur de comment

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread r00t
Ahoj, Systematicky mapuju schranky v Praze a obcas narazim na to ze nekdo schranku asi podle POI importeru dal do mapy, ale uz ji nikam neposunul. Takze je treba uprostred domu nebo stredu ulice. Tyhle schranky se daji detekovat podle posunu, pokud ukazuje "Posunuto o 0.0 cm" tak je s nejvetsi

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] [HOT] LGBTQ people at HOT Summit?

2018-02-23 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi Rory, Again, I really appreciate you bringing up this issue. I do not want to derail, in fact I very much want to continue the discussion. But on a process note: Trying to have it across 3 lists is not working very well because all the contributors to this thread are not subscribed to all

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
The change is usually on the order of single digit percent per year, making even a decade old estimate much more representative than "heavy". Seriously, "traffic=trunk" obviously means nothing if we cannot agree on what "highway=trunk" means. Ok, look here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
Wouldn't the estimate change often? We usually don't like that in OSM. [1] [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_temporary_events_and_temporary_features On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Matej Lieskovský wrote: > A "traffic" tag sounds

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
A "traffic" tag sounds like a good idea, but I'd have two suggestions: 1) Can we find a better name? 2) Estimates are better than words. I can imagine what 5000 cars per day look like, but what is considered heavy traffic in (for example) Brazil? I'm all for letting highway tag only worry about

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I don't intend to. But I still wonder why they are desirable. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Michael Andersen wrote: > On fredag den 23. februar 2018 15.31.37 CET Fernando Trebien wrote: > >> Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many >> fragments of

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Michael Andersen
On fredag den 23. februar 2018 15.31.37 CET Fernando Trebien wrote: > Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many > fragments of motorways and trunks all over the map. Is this an > artifact of local definitions? Or is it intentional and desirable? The "fragments" of

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > Which one is the "best"? If it's the fast route, there's no issue: > both roads are already "highway=motorway". I think the fastest route is almost always what most people would consider the best. The exception

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM transfert des nœuds et pas des chemins

2018-02-23 Thread marc marc
Bonjour, Le 23. 02. 18 à 12:31, Christian Quest a écrit : > JOSM n'est pas limité à 1 noeuds. Un changeset est limité à 5 > objets et JOSM sait gérer ça (mon upload record c'est 400.000 objets). La limite du changeset a été baissé de 50k à 10k l'an passé

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread marc marc
Le 23. 02. 18 à 14:55, Jérôme Amagat a écrit : > comment ont fait pour différencier par exemple les Alpes et un de ses > massifs? name=Les Alpes <> name=le nom du massif ? :) > Un truc que je trouverais pas mal c'est créer une relation multipolygon > avec des membres qui ont des rôles du type

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Dónde está indicado eso de que por tener un carril sea oneway a la fuerza? No tiene porqué. El vie., 23 feb. 2018 18:10, Javier Sánchez Portero escribió: > Si pones lanes=1 implica oneway=yes. Es una carretera de doble sentido. > > El 23 de febrero de 2018, 17:00, Jorge

Re: [Talk-de] Dt. Kartenstil: Rendern von historic=fort

2018-02-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 23 February 2018, Sven Geggus wrote: > > OSM carto rendert seit der aktuellen Version für den tag > historic=fort folgendes Symbol: > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/symbo >ls/fort.svg > > Aus meiner Sicht sieht das irgendwie aus wie eine Spielzeugburg von

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] LGBTQ people at HOT Summit?

2018-02-23 Thread Rory McCann
Hi I always presumed this was caused by people not considering it, rather than active malice. Straight privilege, eh? :) Yes there are limitations with holding events in NA/Europe, both legal (immigration systems) and practical (higher relative cost). SotMs' scholarship programmes are attempt to

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
I would tag the amount of traffic (official count or estimation) + the width of the lanes (bidirectional with no hard shoulder ?) + an appropriated renderer to show heavy traffic + narrow road with a thin red stroke. Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 21:28, Mark Wagner a écrit : >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Mark Wagner
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:14:42 -0200 Fernando Trebien wrote: > Landing on this discussion several months late. I've just heard of it > by reading a wiki talk page [1]. > > Since 13 February 2009, the wiki [2] criticises highway classification > as

[Talk-de] Dt. Kartenstil: Rendern von historic=fort

2018-02-23 Thread Sven Geggus
Hallo zusammen, OSM carto rendert seit der aktuellen Version für den tag historic=fort folgendes Symbol: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/symbols/fort.svg Aus meiner Sicht sieht das irgendwie aus wie eine Spielzeugburg von Playmobil oder so. Im deutschen

Re: [Talk-cz] telefoni budky

2018-02-23 Thread Petr Vozdecký
...že ty máš svrbění založit na taskmanovi další projekt... :) -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Miroslav Suchý Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 15. 2. 2018 22:32:51 Předmět: [Talk-cz] telefoni budky "Tak jsem si v posledni dobe

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
We could start with Brasil, France, UK, and Czechia. But in France and in Brasil the trunk definition is not set yet ... I've started to use a new tag in Brittany : traffic ; low-intermediate-heavy-trunk, to show the amount of vehicles per day. Probably that in combination of other tags (lanes,

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 23.2.2018 v 20:05 majka napsal(a): > Jo, podařilo se mi při jedné akci místo kopírování tagů kopírovat > celou schránku, a byla jsem při tom hezky rozjetá. Místo ctrl+shift+v > se mi dařilo jen ctrl+v, a v JOSM je to hned.  > > Nejzákeřnější na tom je, že některé byly naprosto přesně v

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
Could we perhaps start a wiki page to collect information on how every country classifies roads? Something like https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence but intended for the global community instead of the local mappers? More detail and less non-english text. On 23

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread yo paseopor
las carreteras sin líneas a efectos prácticos quedan convertidas en carreteras de un solo carril, de doble sentido. Así que , según mi criterio sería: highway=unclassified (o tertiary o secondary - según la referencia y categoría que le dé la administración a la que compete -aunque ya sabeis que

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I'm glad it is not so much of a problem in Czechia and I hope it would rarely be a problem anywhere. In any case, the idea can be developed further. Matej raises some interesting points that can account for better classification. For example, we could add some bias towards regional and/or

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
@djakk: I'd rather not rely on some global algorithm coming to the exact same conclusion. Making the classification not match the algorithm perfectly (because it forgot to look at number of lanes or traffic light priorities or whatever) seems to me whole lot better than randomly getting roads with

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: > Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many > fragments of motorways and trunks all over the map. Is this an > artifact of local definitions? Or is it intentional and desirable? I

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
Et attention aux autres pièges, l'extension minimale peut avoir des concavités recouvertes totalement par l'extension maximale sans concavité (cela se complique si l'extension minimale contient des trous enclavés, mais l'extension maximale en supprime en les recouvrant totalement! dans ce cas

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
What do you think about changes of classification at country borders? Can this be somehow reconciled? Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many fragments of motorways and trunks all over the map. Is this an artifact of local definitions? Or is it intentional and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
C'est aussi une idée, mais alors les rôles normaux ("inner"/"outer") pour l'extension minimale, et les rôles augmentés de "_max" pour l'extension maximale, ce qui permet aussi à un moteur de rendu d'utiliser un remplissage à semi-transparence linéaire, s'il sait interpoler entre les deux tracés

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Don’t worry, when the official system is good, lik in Czechia, it matches Fernando’s suggestion :) djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 18:32, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Don't get me wrong, this system might work well for countries without an > official system, but what

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
1) I'd have far fewer problems with "highway=primary" being replaced by "highway=road" "road_class=primary" or something like that (making it easier to say "we don't classify roads here"). 2) I'm not going around telling Brazilians which Brazilian roads they're allowed to tag as primary. I'd

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread dcapillae
Hola, José Luis. No estoy del todo de acuerdo, pero al menos es un criterio. Lo fundamental es seguir algún criterio y, si puede ser, que todos sigamos el mismo. No estoy de acuerdo en que el ancho sea subjetivo (o poco significativo) para el caso que nos ocupa, determinar que etiqueta usar, si

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Petr Vozdecký
ad konference: - odgeekovat - ja si kupodivu nemyslim, ze to je zageekovane... kdyz je ale uzivatel komunikacni introvert, nic s tim neudelas... - konference - probirali jsme se Zby.cz dve nove features, ktere by z noveho rozhrani talk-cz na openstreetmap.cz udelali neco, co se vice podoba

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Pierre Béland
If we talk of harmonization, we have to look outside of Europe and the major industrialized countries. The highway classsification based on infrastructures such as motorways and trunk roads is not adapted to the majority of the countries or regions. In countries or vast regions with no

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Gender

2018-02-23 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi All, The first discussion will take place Monday at 17:00 London time(1). This will take place on the HOT Mumble server(2). Thanks, -Kate (1) https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSM+and+Gender+First+Discussion=20180226T17=136=1 (2)

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
Don't get me wrong, this system might work well for countries without an official system, but what do you expect to happen in the EU? Will we have "highway=primary" + "class=tertiary" because some random road happens to be a shortcut? Or do you expect us in Czechia to use "class=II" while germans

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] cycleway=track et bifurcations

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Pour moi, on fusionne piste cyclable et route pour voitures avec cycleway=track quand on a pas le temps de cartographier plus précisément. Pour ce cas dont tu parles, on pourrait s’en sortir en codant une séparation route - piste cyclable sur une petite portion de rue autour du carrefour. djakk

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Si pones lanes=1 implica oneway=yes. Es una carretera de doble sentido. El 23 de febrero de 2018, 17:00, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso escribió: > Yo esas las pongo como lanes=1, no hace falta poner oneway=no . Ya indica > lo que es con eso. > > El vie., 23 feb. 2018 a las 17:55,

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
+1 Administrative classification is not strictly related everywhere to signage, structure and access rights. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM, djakk djakk wrote: > I know that « trunk » is country-dependent but why not moving it to a > worldwide definition ?

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Noeud, ligne ou surface selon les cas (quartier de ville - fond de vallée - massif montagneux). Quant au polygone, quand la limite est floue, en faire un petit et un grand (cœur de la region - extension maximum de la région) ? djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 17:58, Philippe Verdy

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso
Yo esas las pongo como lanes=1, no hace falta poner oneway=no . Ya indica lo que es con eso. El vie., 23 feb. 2018 a las 17:55, Javier Sánchez Portero (< javiers...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Correcto. ¿Pero existirá alguna etiqueta tipo central_line=no? No se cual > sería el término adecuado en

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
Je ne vois pas mettre ça dans les rôles des membres de relations, mais directement comme tags des chemins tracés... Le rôle est strictement le même ce n'est que la précision du tracé qui est floue (en fait la précision des noeuds utilisés, mais on na va pas taguer nécessairement tous les noeuds

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Correcto. ¿Pero existirá alguna etiqueta tipo central_line=no? No se cual sería el término adecuado en inglés. El 23 de febrero de 2018, 15:32, Iván Sánchez Ortega escribió: > On 2018-02-23 14:51, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: > >> Hola >> >> Hay sitios rurales en los que

Re: [Talk-it] Digest di Talk-it, Volume 135, Numero 99

2018-02-23 Thread gianluigi salvucci
scusatemi sono nuovo spero di non far casinoho visto anche io il video e lavorando sul catasto quotidianamente ho notato che il link è cambiato questo è quello corretto e

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names in Ontario

2018-02-23 Thread Matthew Darwin
I will leave the wonky towns (the ones that have parentheses) for cleanup later.  The other "Town Of" are done. I am working on "Municipality Of" now. On 2018-02-18 11:04 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: Hi Bill, Thanks for the feedback.  OSM is updated accordingly. I also changed "City of Prince

[OSRM-talk] OSRM v5.16.0 Release

2018-02-23 Thread Chau Nguyen
Hello! We just released OSRM v5.16, focusing on improving guidance and profiles.  This release ships several fixes but also new features. Highlights of new features are: ### Maneuver Override Relations: Sometimes road geometries of complicated intersections do not give enough information on

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
I know that « trunk » is country-dependent but why not moving it to a worldwide definition ? Administrative classification could be moved to other tags :) djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 16:06, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Greetings > I'd like to caution against

Re: [Talk-it] Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble

2018-02-23 Thread Alessandro
Il 23/02/2018 16:26, Ivo Reano ha scritto: Il giorno 23 febbraio 2018 15:58, Simone Saviolo > ha scritto: Però si potrebbe introdurre un'accademia. Neanche tanto per insegnare come si mappa, quanto piuttosto per porre una

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Marián Kyral
Ideálně Mirkovi Suchému. Díky, Marián -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Petr Vozdecký Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 23. 2. 2018 16:38:23 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) ) "Jo Mariane, udělám to.

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Petr Vozdecký
Jo Mariane, udělám to. Jak postupovat? Komu to mám poslat, az to zplodim? -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Marián Kyral Jinak díky za postřehy, všechno je to stále ve vývoji. Bylo by super, kdyby sis našel trochu času a upravil popis na TaskManageru, aby to bylo pro

Re: [Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
On 2018-02-23 14:51, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: Hola Hay sitios rurales en los que las carreteras no tienen pintada línea central. Pueden ser unclassified, tertiary o incluso secondary. Por supuesto estoy hablando de carreteras de doble sentido. ¿Hay alguna etiqueta para indicarlo? El método

Re: [Talk-it] Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble

2018-02-23 Thread Ivo Reano
Il giorno 23 febbraio 2018 15:58, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: > Però si potrebbe introdurre un'accademia. Neanche tanto per insegnare come > si mappa, quanto piuttosto per porre una barriera all'ingresso. Va bene che > la si voglia tenere bassa, ma non può essere nulla.

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Marián Kyral
-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Petr Vozdecký Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic Datum: 23. 2. 2018 14:52:47 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) ) "Překvapivě mi prakticky všichni (které jsem z Talk-cz neznal)

Re: [Talk-it] Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble

2018-02-23 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 23 febbraio 2018 14:48, Alessandro ha scritto: > Quando l’articolo affronta il primo tema della contrarietà di permettere a > chiunque e senza limiti di accedere alle risorse di osm.org vorrei > ricordare un periodo di rallentamento del sito dovuto al boom di alcune

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Matej Lieskovský
I'd like to reiterate that (much like riverbanks) the shoreline of a lake can change far faster than the river channel. While the area maps the "usual" extent (ignoring droughts and floods), the line is a very useful abstraction. Not connecting rivers into a network invalidates the idea of a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread François Lacombe
2018-02-23 15:36 GMT+01:00 Rory McCann : > If OSM takes a "all rivers must be connected through lakes", then data > consumers have a simple job. If OSM says "some will and some won't", then > data consumers have to process the data to add intra-lake connections. If > they

Re: [OSM-talk] Is this legal to what philly.com is doing?

2018-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/22/2018 8:03 PM, James Mast wrote: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/will-republicans-impeach-pennsylvania-supreme-court-justices-20180222.html (ignore what the article is about) Just happen to see a thumbnail and clicked on the article since I noticed the OSM base map. 

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Rory McCann
On 23/02/18 11:58, François Lacombe wrote: If some rivers/streams shouldn't be connected, then some data consumers will have to do an automatic connection anyway. When measuring water run off and pollution, you probably want to know that "stuff going into stream X will eventually

Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 120, Issue 48

2018-02-23 Thread Jonathan Brown
I don’t mind trying to contact the school, Fredrick. I have a few contacts with the two Ottawa school boards. Jonathan Brown From: talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 7:00 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-ca Digest, Vol 120, Issue 48 Send Talk-ca

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.8.0

2018-02-23 Thread Daniel Koć
Dear all, Today, v4.8.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Made military area rendering

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread majka
Opravdu si myslíš, že průměrný mapper bude: 1. zkoumat, proč POI-importer dělá to co dělá (a nemávne nad případnou chybou rukou) 2. bude zkoumat, proč Česká pošta funguje tak jak funguje 3. vyhodí do talku 3 dotazy během 10 minut a nedá čas na odpověď? Protože v tu chvíli se nad sebou musím

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Jérôme Amagat
oups c'est parti trop vite :) Pour les vallée il y a natural=valley mais on est censé indiquer que le fond de la vallée : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dvalley Le Jura Français (les communes en zone de montagne donc c'est du naturel lié à de l'administratif) :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zones géographiques informelles

2018-02-23 Thread Jérôme Amagat
Un node c'est déjà pas mal mais on perd pas mal par rapport a un polygone au niveau de la taille, de l’étendu. Pour les lieux habités place=city town village hamlet ... on a une idée de la taille dans le tag mais comment ont fait pour différencier par exemple les Alpes et un de ses massifs? Un

[Talk-es] Carretera sin línea central

2018-02-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Hola Hay sitios rurales en los que las carreteras no tienen pintada línea central. Pueden ser unclassified, tertiary o incluso secondary. Por supuesto estoy hablando de carreteras de doble sentido. ¿Hay alguna etiqueta para indicarlo? El método más heavy sería lanes=1 oneway=no, pero me resulta.

Re: [Talk-it] Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble

2018-02-23 Thread Alessandro
Buongiorno lista, di rientro da una settimana molto pesante (ma anche molto soddisfacente) a Roma metto lì i miei due centesimi sulla discussione. E’ un’occasione da prendere al volo anche perché quando si tenta di intavolare una qualche discussione su temi un poco più alti rispetti ai

Re: [Talk-cz] oznacovani dlazdic jako dirty

2018-02-23 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 23.2.2018 v 14:25 Petr Vozdecký napsal(a): > Ahoj, > > toto mi dříve spolehlivě fungovalo, dnes jsem to zkusil reinkarnovat a bez > úspěchu... > > jinými slovy - jak jednoduše označit dlaždici jako dirty? Spise me to prijde, jako ze je ted dlouha fronta. Pred 2 dny jsem na re-render

Re: [Talk-cz] oznacovani dlazdic jako dirty

2018-02-23 Thread majka
Momentálně nejsnadněji přes JOSM. Je nutné mít zobrazenou vrstvu mapniku, a pak se dlaždice dá označit jako dirty z mapy (Get tile status - získej stav/ Force tile rendering - označit jako dirty). 2018-02-23 14:25 GMT+01:00 Petr Vozdecký : > Ahoj, > > toto mi dříve spolehlivě

Re: [Talk-cz] oznacovani dlazdic jako dirty

2018-02-23 Thread Petr Vozdecký
Ahoj, toto mi dříve spolehlivě fungovalo, dnes jsem to zkusil reinkarnovat a bez úspěchu... jinými slovy - jak jednoduše označit dlaždici jako dirty? vop -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Petr Holub Komu: 'OpenStreetMap Czech Republic'

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread Jose Luis Infante
Hola, realmente el tema de que una calle sea estrecha es subjetivo. Puede ser estrecha para un coche, para una moto, o para un peatón, o para una persona en silla de ruedas. Para todas estas circunstancias hay etiquetas para indicar esa información, incluso indicando el ancho real de la vía.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM transfert des nœuds et pas des chemins

2018-02-23 Thread Philippe Verdy
Le problème avec les changesets énormes, c'est la grosse demande de ressource que cela demande d'un coup au serveur, et ensuite la difficulté de repérer les erreurs et la lourdeur des "revert". Même si on peut mettre 5 objets, il vaut mieux éviter sauf si ce sont des noeuds uniquement utilisés

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread dcapillae
Hola, Jesús. En la documentación de la etiqueta «highway=residential» se dice que se trata de «carreteras que dan acceso o pasan alrededor de áreas residenciales» o calles utilizadas «generalmente sólo para el tráfico local por personas que viven dentro del asentamiento» [1]. Un calle estrecha

Re: [Talk-it] risposta a dichiarazione uso di GoogleStreetView

2018-02-23 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Bene, la discussione è interessante ed ha rivelato una cosa palese: c'è un mostruoso sbilanciamento di potere tra mappatori volontari ed una azienda privata monopolistica dell'informazione globale. Ora come ora, se un vandalo di OSM causa la morte di una persona perchè ha cambiato il nome della

Re: [Talk-ec] Mejoras a la red de carreteras en Ecuador

2018-02-23 Thread Julio Martinez
Muchas Gracias Daniel, no puedo estar más de acuerdo con tus comentarios. Saludos On 22/02/18 17:34, Daniel Orellana wrote: Gracias Andrew por tu pronta respuesta! En las calles mencionadas (Sucre y Bolivar) la tipología es la misma que todas las calles del sector, con un solo sentido de

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 23 February 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > > But then how far do you go? Should every stream be connected to the > central river? e.g. what about here ( > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=water=28.57869=-16.75136 >=11 )? > > If some rivers/streams shouldn't be connected, then some data >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM transfert des nœuds et pas des chemins

2018-02-23 Thread Christian Quest
JOSM n'est pas limité à 1 noeuds. Un changeset est limité à 5 objets et JOSM sait gérer ça (mon upload record c'est 400.000 objets). Le problème n'est pas technique, mais plus sur le principe. Il y a des règles à respecter pour importer des données dans OSM: - légales (on commence par

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread Luis García Castro
Buenas, No me sonaban bien algunas cosas que se han dicho y he revisado un poco. Creo que la descripción de «service=alley» (usada con «highway=service») que aparece en la wiki es exactamente lo que queremos describir con esas calles estrechas de pueblo: In some medieval (European) settlements

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Yo no. No se trata del ancho, sólo, sino de establecer una clasificación entre distintos tipos de calles lo mismo que hay primary/secondary/tertiary pista carreteras. Si el nombre es callejón, pasaje, transversal y variantes son pistas de este tipo de vías

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-02-23 11:35, Rory McCann wrote: On 23/02/18 06:53, Maarten Deen wrote: I see nothing wrong with those examples, I would do it the same, especially if the rivers can be sailed on by boat. Then you absolutely need the rivers to be connected to a central river (or fairway) in the lake.

Re: [Talk-it] Josm off line, come salvare la visione aerea

2018-02-23 Thread Alberto Nogaro
Ciao, un metodo, un po’ contorto ma comodo, per riempire automaticamente la cache con le tiles delle immagini sulla zona in cui lavori può essere questo: * apri una copia del layer dati per cui vuoi salvare la visione aerea, diciamo che si chiami “Pippo” * nella finestra

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread François Lacombe
(Sorry Rory, resent this to Talk ML) 2018-02-23 11:35 GMT+01:00 Rory McCann : > On 23/02/18 06:53, Maarten Deen wrote: > >> I see nothing wrong with those examples, I would do it the same, >> especially if the rivers can be sailed on by boat. Then you absolutely need >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Is this legal to what philly.com is doing?

2018-02-23 Thread James
specifically:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi all, Slightly off topic, but I was recently wondering if there was a waterway routing tool available? As in, I'd like to click a point in a waterway and have the downstream route plotted, presumably to the sea. It appears to me that a tool like that could be useful in this discussion? Despite

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping rivers that flow into/through lakes?

2018-02-23 Thread Rory McCann
On 23/02/18 06:53, Maarten Deen wrote: I see nothing wrong with those examples, I would do it the same, especially if the rivers can be sailed on by boat. Then you absolutely need the rivers to be connected to a central river (or fairway) in the lake. But then how far do you go? Should every

Re: [Talk-it] risposta a dichiarazione uso di GoogleStreetView

2018-02-23 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 23 febbraio 2018 09:40, Fra Mauro ha scritto: > Scusate se mi permetto, ma a me sembra che su questa discussione si > mischino molti più piani. > > - cosa dice la licenza di dati e foto secondo Google. La cosa è importante > per capire tra l'altro in qualche modo

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM transfert des nœuds et pas des chemins

2018-02-23 Thread Rpnpif
Le 22 février 2018, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : > Le 22/02/2018 à 17:15, marc marc - marc_marc_...@hotmail.com a écrit : > > > Bonjour, > > > > Le 22. 02. 18 à 16:48, Rpnpif a écrit : > >> Je suis novice dans JOSM. > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56579562 > >> Qu'en

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread Jesús Lopez
Buenos días. Estoy de acuerdo con Rafael. Pienso que la calle es residencial sin depender de su ancho. Si es demasiado estrecha y no permite el paso de algún tipo de vehículo siempre se puede añadir algún tipo de restricción al vial [1]. Saludos [1]

Re: [Talk-it] mia prima modifica in OSM - help!

2018-02-23 Thread Martina
ok, mappato come nodo con railway=station. Tolto il precedente tag all'edificio e anche il name e aggiunto public_transport= station Guardando gli altri tag dell'edificio mi sono però resa conto che ci sono anche i tag wikipedia e wikidata. Li lascio sull'edificio o li sposto sul nodo? Martina

Re: [Talk-it] Josm off line, come salvare la visione aerea

2018-02-23 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Il 23 feb 2018 09:23, "riccardopastoc...@alice.it" < riccardopastoc...@alice.it> ha scritto: Buon giorno, spesso mi trovo a mappare in modalità off line, cioè dalla stanzetta autisti del 118 dove non abbiamo internet. Ciao Ti suggerisco di evitare di farlo. È molto facile entrare in conflitto

Re: [Talk-it] Josm off line, come salvare la visione aerea

2018-02-23 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Ciao, presumo tu sia su windows. Le immagini di Bing e Mapbox mi sembra siano gestite come TMS (tile map service), cioè sono composte di tanti tasselli il cui nome è __.png Cerca dov'è la cartella che li contiene andando in impostazioni JOSM, accendi la casella "modalità avanzata", clicca la

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Where to suggest/discuss the renderer?

2018-02-23 Thread Tim Couwelier
The problem is - whenever you try and get changes for the renderer - the argument is they don't feel they should change the renderer to try and influence the tagging. They care about rendering 'the tags that actively get used'. Be very carefull how you pitch the argument, or it'll instantly get a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Tim Couwelier
There's always an inherit 'gap' between 'what does government intend the road for' and 'how does the road actually look'. Terms such as 'primary' and 'secondary' roads have meaning in planning context. In Flanders we have the 'Ruimtelijk Structuurplan Vlaanderen' which classifies which roads are

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread dcapillae
Gracias, Javier. Estoy de acuerdo en usar «highway=footway» para calles estrechas. Respecto a «highway=service», tiendo a no usarlo cuando se trata de calles propiamente dichas, con nombre reconocido y reconocible. La etiqueta «highway=service» la reservo exclusivamente para mapear vías de

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Respuesta breve: yes Aunque aquí nos metemos en la cuestión de si asumir valores por defecto o no que lleva mucho debate detrás. Las vías footway de la zona que mandé (Barrio Nuevo, Tenerife), para mi son footway puro y duro. Físicamente se pueden meter motos y bicicletas (y seguro que se hace),

Re: [Talk-cz] Schránky - statistiky (aka progress meter ;) )

2018-02-23 Thread Marián Kyral
Ahoj, dobrá zpráva. Data v POI-Importeru byla aktualizována. A povedlo se mi i umravnit generování json souborů, takže mohu použít git pro detekci změněných souborů a jejich automatickou aktualizaci na serveru. Zároveň mám hotový i první nástřel update skriptu. Ještě musím dodělat nějaké logování

Re: [Talk-es] Calles muy estrechas

2018-02-23 Thread alan_gr
Si usamos footway, sería necesario añadir bicycle=yes en muchos casos? Y tal vez motorcycle=yes, moped=yes o horse=yes según el caso? -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Spain-f5409873.html ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] [Imports] Fwd: Re: Sabbioneta buildings import

2018-02-23 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Hi! On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 22. Feb 2018, at 14:41, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > > > * You should also add building=yes to bell towers. > > > I would suggest building=bell_tower > >

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