Re: [OSM-talk] Help me build an OSM Community Index

2018-04-17 Thread Johannes Singler
Hi, I think this is a great idea for community building. BTW what about having similar functionality *during* editing? For example showing a link to the OSM wiki page of the currently edited area? Such pages often tell what to pay special attention to in a certain area, but IMHO they would

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 18 April 2018 at 06:30, Jmapb wrote: > (My personal feeling is that that it's better to avoid mapping sidewalks > as separate ways unless there's a compelling reason that would outweigh the > additional data clutter and routing complications. In some circumstances -- > those

Re: [Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Apr 2018, at 00:00, Francesco Frassinelli wrote: > > - OSM segna come benzinaio l'edificio e non la tettoia con le pompe (come > pare fare il dataset MISE) -> giusto o fixme (e se sì, cosa scriverci?) non vedo un grosso problema, si può anche

Re: [Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread Francesco Frassinelli
Il giorno 17 aprile 2018 14:31, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: > La conflation del dataset MISE è stata eseguita con i dati del 2018-04-16 > (includendo anche i waterway=fuel). > Nella procedura di import è successivamente previsto un "audit" > (revisione) dei risultati,

Re: [Diversity-talk] Idea: Quarterly Projects for a traditionally underrepresented topic(s)/groups?

2018-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/26/2018 1:24 PM, Rory McCann wrote: Any ideas for topics? Some ideas - Regional languages. Is there a regional language you speak? Make sure that you're adding it to the map when objects have a name in that language. Unfortunately, this isn't great for a global project because not

Re: [Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 17/04/2018 14:31, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: La conflation del dataset MISE è stata eseguita con i dati del 2018-04-16 (includendo anche i waterway=fuel). Nella procedura di import è successivamente previsto un "audit" (revisione) dei risultati, come illustrato in questo [1] schema. A

[OSM-talk-fr] Wiki des cours d'eau

2018-04-17 Thread François Lacombe
Bonsoir à tous, Pour info, s'achève ce soir une vague de mise à jour du wiki pour la cartographie des cours d'eau, en anglais pour commencer et intégralement traduite en français ensuite. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Waterways Les tags utilisés se veulent équilibrés entre le cours

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe mute

2018-04-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Apr 2018, at 10:25, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > Grazie, sto provando mapz adesso. Maperitive mi pare sia solo disponibile per > windows. si, ma credo ci siano possibilità di utilizzarlo su altri sistemi, per esempio con mono. Ciao,

[OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-17 Thread Jmapb
The wiki contains some suggestions/guidelines about when to map sidewalks as separate footways versus when to encode them as tags on the main road. The basic recommendation seems to be that if there's a barrier or even a strip of grass between the two, a separate way is fine and even sometimes

[Talk-GB] Addressing of flats: review best practice

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Hain
I have been mapping a complex of flats that consists of a series of blocks each with its own entrance, tagging each section with addr:housename and addr:flats [https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/580234651]. The standard layer repeats the name of the whole block for each section, which I find a

[Talk-GB] Leicester pub meeting & mapathon Thursday 19th April

2018-04-17 Thread SK53
Just another reminder that we have an extra couple of events this week in Leicester. The Mapathon is in the Bennett Building, University of Leicester from 16:30. I'd welcome anyone who is willing to lend a hand to help any newcomers get off the ground. I'm detailing stuff on this wiki page:

Re: [Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread scratera
...anche perchè se io scrivessi building:levels=0 in questo rendering sparirebbero parecchi building http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=45.8906495=11.0485324=16=76.849=-84.225 -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html ___

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.04.2018 um 19:37 schrieb Michael Reichert: > > *Controller vs. processor* > > Chapter "Recommendations", section 3 (page 10) writes: >> Using the data for user and contribution profiling will either require a data >> processing agreement (and a similar agreement for research) or the

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Simon, Am 2018-04-17 um 12:48 schrieb Simon Poole: > On the 25th of May 2018 the *General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) > * will > enter in to force, this will likely result in some changes in how > OpenStreetMap operates

Re: [Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Apr 2018, at 18:32, scratera wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels > ...personalmente per mè il livello 0 è il livello del suolo...casa con > appartamento solo al piano terra building:levels=1 ci sono 2 tag, uno per

Re: [Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread Jeawrong
Perfetto, ora mi è chiaro ;) -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread Alessandro
Il 17/04/2018 18:15, Jeawrong ha scritto: Salve, mi è sorto un dubbio riguardo al tag in questione: nelle pagine del wiki (sia italiana che inglese) si legge che "Il tag building:levels è usato per indicare i piani sopraelevati di un edificio", ("The building:levels tag is used for marking the

Re: [Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread scratera
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels ...personalmente per mè il livello 0 è il livello del suolo...casa con appartamento solo al piano terra building:levels=1 -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Italy-General-f5324174.html

[Talk-it] building:levels

2018-04-17 Thread Jeawrong
Salve, mi è sorto un dubbio riguardo al tag in questione: nelle pagine del wiki (sia italiana che inglese) si legge che "Il tag building:levels è usato per indicare i piani sopraelevati di un edificio", ("The building:levels tag is used for marking the number of above-ground levels" nella pagina

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 105, Udgave 7

2018-04-17 Thread Uffe Kousgaard
DAGI: http://sdfe.dk/hent-data/danmarks-administrative-graenser-dagi/ On 17-04-2018 16:21, Anders Lund wrote: Det lyder som en god ide! Findes de mon ikke i en frit tilgængelig kilde? ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] Elisuperficie

2018-04-17 Thread paolo bubici
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlanding_site Il Mar 17 Apr 2018, 16:27 riccardopastoc...@alice.it < riccardopastoc...@alice.it> ha scritto: > Due cose: > > a) Mi controllate se ho mappato bene questa area per elisuperfice? >

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Ed Loach
Andrew asked: > Yes that does help clarify my concerns too. I still wonder if someone > outside the EU can go ahead and publish the full metadata included > OSM database under the ODBL outside the OSMF, or in the worst case > local communities outside the EU can still publish their regional

[Talk-it] Elisuperficie

2018-04-17 Thread riccardopastoc...@alice.it
Due cose: a) Mi controllate se ho mappato bene questa area per elisuperfice?https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.36763/13.58621 b) Come posso mappare aree dove l'elicottero del 118 atterrà di solito?E distinguerla da una elisuperfice?Per capirci: non è una piazzola per eliambulanza, ma un

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 105, Udgave 7

2018-04-17 Thread Anders Lund
tirsdag den 17. april 2018 10.19.39 CEST skrev Jørgen Elgaard Larsen: > Anders Lund skrev: > > Alle de pokkers små flækker ødelægger stedsøgningen (reverse geosearch fx > > på osm.org) fra et bruger-synspunkt. Søgning efter adresser i danmark > > giver ret absurde resulater, fordi flækkerne er

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Yes that does help clarify my concerns too. I still wonder if someone > outside the EU can go ahead and publish the full metadata included > OSM database under the ODBL outside the OSMF, or in the worst case > local communities outside the EU can

[Talk-dk] FW: autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Jakob Barfod
Til Søren Johannesen / Neogeografen, cc:OSM talk-dk. Hej Søren. Undskyld, jeg sådan trænger mig på, men du har tidligere været aktiv på din blog "microformats", som p.t. ikke er tilgængelig. Som du kan se herunder, er der på OSM's talk-dk-postliste en længere diskussion i gang vedr. automatisk

Re: [Talk-dk] autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Jakob Barfod
> > Mht. position, som tidligere diskuteret et sted i forrige tråd, bør > > fejl rettes direkte hos DAR. > > Igen, der kan gå lang tid inden vi får rettet fejl i DAR. > Og hvis vi ved at data i OSM er forkerte, skal der være en måde at rette > dem i OSM indtil de bliver rettet i DAR. Bemærk

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 17 April 2018 at 23:31, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > > * When you add new 'terms of use' or 'data processing agreement' > > > provisions that people who want to access OSM data with metadata > > > need to agree to does that

Re: [Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Puoi scegliere "browse points" e poi "edit this". Il 17 apr 2018 3:25 PM, "Damjan Gerl" ha scritto: Ciao! Ma posso validare i punti che conosco? Io non ci riesco. Sceglie da solo i punti da validare. D. -- Original Header --- >From : "Cascafico

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > > * When you add new 'terms of use' or 'data processing agreement' > > provisions that people who want to access OSM data with metadata > > need to agree to does that constitute an amendment of the ODbL and > > therefore a change in license? If not

Re: [Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread Damjan Gerl
Ciao! Ma posso validare i punti che conosco? Io non ci riesco. Sceglie da solo i punti da validare. D. -- Original Header --- From : "Cascafico Giovanni" cascaf...@gmail.com To : "openstreetmap list - italiano" talk-it@openstreetmap.org Cc : Date :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un nouveau 'concurrent' ?

2018-04-17 Thread Philippe Verdy
Concernant Mapcat.com, je trouve que leur rendu vectoriel est beaucoup trop agressif sur les simplications géométriques, ce qui donne des polygones beaucoup trop anguleux par rapport aux données (il suffit de voir le tracé des rocades ou des courbes de lignes de chemin de fer), et trop souvent des

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
Thank you those in the LWG that have put this paper together. My thoughts are OSM's ODBL license grants me the right to publish a version of http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ open to the public, not restricted to OSM users. Reading this, I understand the OSMF is proposing to introduce Terms of Use which

Re: [OSM-ja] 高速道路の定義について

2018-04-17 Thread Ras and Road
Ras and Roadです。 まずは、hayashiさんの4月15日01:32の投稿へのレスポンスです。 hayashiさんが > 上記のことから、「自動車専用道路」は「国で最高品質の道路」とみなすことができるといえます。 と言及されているのは *提案1 乃至は *提案1-1 についてですよね? *提案3-1 motorroad=yesの定義を「自動車専用道路」標識がついた道路とする の解釈に関して、「自動車専用道路の標識がなくとも『歩行者、軽車両、原付、小型二輪』が通行できなければ『自動車専用道路』とみなす」なら、通行制限の結果に変わりがないので反対はしないのですが。

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Simon Poole
Am 17.04.2018 um 14:14 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > >> LWG GDPR Position Paper >> >> >> Please feel free to discuss on the talk page >>

Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

2018-04-17 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Il giorno 17 aprile 2018 14:16, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: > Giocando con awk e grep (la sintassi della regexp è leggermente > differente) si possono vedere i valori che vengono estratti: > awk -F ";" '{print $6}' anagrafica_impianti_attivi.csv | grep -E >

[Talk-it] [ItalyFuelStations] revisione pre-import

2018-04-17 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
La conflation del dataset MISE è stata eseguita con i dati del 2018-04-16 (includendo anche i waterway=fuel). Nella procedura di import è successivamente previsto un "audit" (revisione) dei risultati, come illustrato in questo [1] schema. A mio parere non è necesario validare tutti i 20709 nodi

Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

2018-04-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 16. Apr 2018, at 13:26, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > i nodi sono più di 20.000 ed una verifica e correzione a tappeto sarebbe > difficilmente completabile. non abbiamo fretta, possiamo caricare i POI successivamente quando li abbiamo verificati

Re: [Talk-dk] autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:13:12 +0200 Jonathan Hougaard wrote: > Mht. 4 - som nævnt tidligere, er min tilgang generelt (nødt til at > være), at data fra DAR er korrekt. Men det er data fra DAR altså ikke altid. Datakvaliteten er høj, men det er ikke perfekt. > Jeg har ikke

Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

2018-04-17 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Ciao, 2018-04-17 10:51 GMT+02:00 Cascafico Giovanni : > Il giorno 28 marzo 2018 11:46, Andrea Musuruane ha > scritto: > >> Nel file description viene messo l'indirizzo. Sarebbe meglio riuscire a metterlo in addr:street e addr:housenumber (per quelli

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > LWG GDPR Position Paper > > > Please feel free to discuss on the talk page > or on this list. A number of questions/comments: * Is

Re: [OSM-talk] External contact channels and GDPR

2018-04-17 Thread Simon Poole
Isn't this a bit a "what if"? Definitely the OSMF is not requiring or asking anybody to discuss topics on media that are not operated by the foundation and as you know provides a variety of options (changeset comments, diaries, mailing lists and forums) that can be used without involving third

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un nouveau 'concurrent' ?

2018-04-17 Thread Vincent Frison
Le 16 avril 2018 à 11:39, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : > > Merci Noémie pour ces précisions ! > > Qwant étant un moteur de recherche, est-il prévu également d'améliorer le > moteur actuel d'OpenStreetMap qui est pour moi le point faible autant sur > OpenStreetMap.org que

Re: [Talk-cz] Ruske mapy

2018-04-17 Thread Jan Macura
Doporučuji zájemcům o sovětské mapové dílo: https://maps.vlasenko.net/soviet-military-topographic-map/ Občas se tam najde i nějaký ten zahraniční kousek. Jo a to, co odkazuje Majka je fakt už historie, vojáci mají dávno svoje mapy v UTM, jsou součástí tajných materiálů NATO a jsou velmi

[OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Simon Poole
On the 25th of May 2018 the *General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) * will enter in to force, this will likely result in some changes in how OpenStreetMap operates and distributes its data. The LWG has prepared a position paper

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Exports OSM impossibles

2018-04-17 Thread Sylvain M
marc marc wrote > mais l'utilisation du bouton export fonctionne chez moi Étrange... ! Peux-tu me donner l'URL complète de l'exportation, qui fonctionne chez toi ? Merci ! Sylvain M. -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/France-f5380434.html

[Talk-cz] WeeklOSM CZ 401

2018-04-17 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 401 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/10179 * Vlastní renderer dlaždic. * Označení městských částí. * Maproulette 3.0. * Routovací systémy a novinky v editoru iD. * Repozitář 3D modelů. * Kde bude SotM 2019? * OpenStreetBrowser a gastronomické POI.

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe mute

2018-04-17 Thread Andreas Lattmann
Può essere di qualche utilità questo? https://github.com/Zverik/Nik4/blob/master/README.md so che esporta in SVG. Scusa ma in questo momento non mi vengono in mente altri strumenti Andreas Lattmann -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail. Perdonate la brevità.

Re: [Talk-dk] autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Jonathan Hougaard
Hej Jakob Tak skal du have. Lad os bare flytte diskussionen til wiki-siden, så undgår vi at sende en masse emails til folk der måske ikke er interesserede i projektet. Mht. 4 - som nævnt tidligere, er min tilgang generelt (nødt til at være), at data fra DAR er korrekt. Jeg har ikke

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe mute

2018-04-17 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
>[...] Maperitive mi pare sia solo disponibile > per windows. funziona anche su linux con mono > Le mappe mute mi servono stampate... maperitive esporta in pdf Unica nota negativa: è proprietario > mia figlia ha il suo > daffare per studiare i nomi di TUTTI i fiumi italiani. Ieri mi sono >

Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

2018-04-17 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Il giorno 28 marzo 2018 11:46, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: > Nel file description viene messo l'indirizzo. Sarebbe meglio riuscire a >>> metterlo in addr:street e addr:housenumber (per quelli che hanno un numero >>> civico, per gli altri l'informazione mi sembra inutile).

Re: [Talk-cz] Ruske mapy

2018-04-17 Thread majka
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 at 10:38, wrote: > U nas to bylo taky, jen v mensim meritku. Co hodin ja prolezel ve > vojenskych mapach Sumavy vydanych v roce 1991 pro verejnost... do te doby > byly turisticke v tom miste v jinem meritku a Rakousko/Nemecko byla zluta > plocha... > Pořád

Re: [Talk-cz] Ruske mapy

2018-04-17 Thread jozka
Obavam se, ze by mel asi tak tricet let zpozdeni... U nas to bylo taky, jen v mensim meritku. Co hodin ja prolezel ve vojenskych mapach Sumavy vydanych v roce 1991 pro verejnost... do te doby byly turisticke v tom miste v jinem meritku a Rakousko/Nemecko byla zluta plocha... Ale pamatuji si

Re: [Talk-dk] autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Jakob Barfod
> I må meget gerne kigge beskrivelsen igennem og komme med forslag og > kommentarer til dette. 1. Rigtig godt arbejde! 2. Foretrækker du, at diskussion foregåer her på talk-dk eller på diskussionssiden på wiki'en? 2.a. Hvis her på talk-dk, så opretter jeg lige en henvisning på wiki'en. 3.

Re: [Talk-it] Mappe mute

2018-04-17 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Grazie, sto provando mapz adesso. Maperitive mi pare sia solo disponibile per windows. Le mappe mute mi servono stampate... mia figlia ha il suo daffare per studiare i nomi di TUTTI i fiumi italiani. Ieri mi sono arrangiato con mappe cercate in google, ma spesso una bella vettoriale farebbe un

Re: [Talk-dk] Sammendrag af Talk-dk, Vol 105, Udgave 7

2018-04-17 Thread Jørgen Elgaard Larsen
Anders Lund skrev: Alle de pokkers små flækker ødelægger stedsøgningen (reverse geosearch fx på osm.org) fra et bruger-synspunkt. Søgning efter adresser i danmark giver ret absurde resulater, fordi flækkerne er punkter, og der ingen regler er for hornår de er relevante. Jeg vil mene, at de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread Julien Noblet
Le 17/04/2018 à 09:59, marc marc a écrit : Le 17. 04. 18 à 09:25, Julien Noblet a écrit : J'utilise brand et non opérator car même si c'est souvent identique dans le cas des banques (il y a peu d'indépendants dans le domaine), On serrait surpris :) généralement le seul moyen pour un client

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread PanierAvide
+1 pour la démarche sur les banques :-) Pour le nom c'est effectivement long et/ou pas adéquat (pas forcément moche, vu que c'est le nom du lieu). Ce qui est moche, c'est que le rendu international ne gère toujours pas le brand=*. Sur un établissement qui en dispose, il devrait être utilisé

[Talk-cz] Ruske mapy

2018-04-17 Thread Pavel Machek
Nechysta se nekdo do Ruska koupit tam nejake bedny s mapama? :-) https://xman.idnes.cz/sovetske-tajne-vojenske-mapy-dj5-/xman-styl.aspx?c=A180416_145157_xman-styl_fro Nenapadlo me jak moc jsou mapy dulezite pro vojaky.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 04. 18 à 09:25, Julien Noblet a écrit : > J'utilise brand et non opérator car même si c'est souvent identique dans > le cas des banques (il y a peu d'indépendants dans le domaine), On serrait surpris :) généralement le seul moyen pour un client de savoir si une agence est salarié ou

[Talk-dk] autoAWS første udkast

2018-04-17 Thread Jonathan Hougaard
Hej alle Tak for de mange input og kommentarer på min tidligere email om et nyt script til opdatering af adressedata i Danmark. Jeg har opdateret wiki-siden, så den gerne skulle stemme overens med koden som den ser ud lige nu: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AutoAWS I må meget gerne

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread Julien Noblet
Le 17/04/2018 à 09:39, Dominique Rousseau a écrit : Le Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 07:25:08AM +, Julien Noblet [julien.nob...@gmail.com] a écrit: [...] De plus, si je prends l'example du Crédit Mutuel ou de la Banque Populaire, il me semble que l'on a des société régionnales qui sont sous une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread Dominique Rousseau
Le Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 07:25:08AM +, Julien Noblet [julien.nob...@gmail.com] a écrit: [...] > De plus, si je prends l'example du Crédit Mutuel ou de la Banque Populaire, > il me semble que l'on a des société régionnales qui sont sous une seule et > même banière. C'est la même chose pour la

[OSM-talk-fr] Banque, brand et brand:wikidata

2018-04-17 Thread Julien Noblet
Bonjour, Je viens de lire le fil d'Adrien sur wikidata vs brand:wikidata et j'aimerai de reprendre le principe pour certaines banques. Je propose donc de rajouter le brand et brand:wikidata sur ces dernières pour simplifier les recherches. J'utilise brand et non opérator car même si c'est