Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Little Maps
On 27 Feb 2023, at 9:05 am, Tom Brennan wrote: > > Sounds like the general consensus is: > - Strava heatmap is good for aligning *existing* tracks > - Strava shouldn't be used for the creation of new tracks without some ground > truthing. Hi all, nice discussion. I agree but would broaden the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Warin
On 26/2/23 20:59, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Feb 26, 2023, 10:20 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: shop = opał → shop = fuel Opal is also a gemstone, Australia being a leading source. It is also a fuel in Australia

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Sebastian Azagra Flores via Talk-au
Use Strava heat maps with caution as they are a record of where people have ridden but doesn’t reflect the correct permissions of a way. regards,Sebastian On 27 Feb 2023, at 9:09 am, Adam Horan wrote:According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava and 

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Josh Marshall
I'm another big user of Strava for tracing... so thought I'd chime in with my approach. These days, not so simple to get access to the good heatmap direct in editors, since they restricted the higher zoom levels to when you're logged in. So since that change, when I'm in a rambling mood (which is

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Hi Adam That was my take on why the 'heat' is no longer there. The fires of 2019-20 burnt that area fairly badly. The scrub in places is now very tough going, but would have been easier in say mid-to-late 2020. cheers Tom Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning Bushwalking? try

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Sounds like the general consensus is: - Strava heatmap is good for aligning *existing* tracks - Strava shouldn't be used for the creation of new tracks without some ground truthing. cheers Tom Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com On

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Tom Brennan
My understanding of the Strava heatmap is that it only shows the last year's worth of tracking. The changeset in question was from July 2021, which was around 18 months after the fires that swept through the area. The scrub would probably have been negotiable then, but less so in recent

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Michael Collinson
I use Strava heatmaps only as a "referential" source, i.e. seeing potentially missing or badly misaligned paths and then taking a walk that way. In addition to other comments about using them directly, I'd also wonder whether Strava copyright allows it but have not explicitly analysed. In

[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #657 2023-02-14-2023-02-20

2023-02-26 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 657, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16342 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 657 2023-02-14-2023-02-20

2023-02-26 Thread weeklyteam
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 657 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16342/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #657 2023-02-14-2023-02-20

2023-02-26 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 657, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16342 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Adam Horan
This page https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918877-Strava-Metro-and-the-Global-Heatmap says that "The Global Heatmap shows 'heat' made by aggregated, public activities *over the last year.*" So it's possible there were routes showing when the original mapper mapped this but they've

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Ewen Hill
Hi, Having a look at the Strava heat map, I can't see any activity at all. Select labels and hybrid to see the OSM layer, https://www.strava.com/heatmap#17.00/150.12413/-33.87746/hot/all https://www.strava.com/heatmap#15.99/150.14939/-33.91318/hot/all Nor can I see any sort of trail using the

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Adam Horan
My view is also that Strava heatmaps are insufficient on their own to prove a track. They do show that a reasonable number of people have passed along a particular route in recent times. They don't prove a path or track, and they give no indication of permissions. However I did look for details

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26 Feb 2023, at 10:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Opal is also a gemstone, Australia being a leading source. It is also a fuel > in Australia ... but that would not be sold in shops but petrol stations. in Germany OPAL is the name of a fibre optic

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Feb 26, 2023, 10:20 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> shop = opał → shop = fuel >> > > > Opal is also a gemstone, Australia being a leading source. It is also a fuel > in Australia ... but that would not be sold in shops but petrol

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Sorry, my bad! I should have linked the "track" on the other side of Whalania Creek: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/963735356 cheers Tom Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com On 26/02/2023 8:20 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread forster
Hi Am I missing something? I looked at way 952248376 and found a user Pieseczek with 2 changesets and 4 new ways over a year old. If there was any reference to Strava heat maps then I missed it. Is there any indication whether Pieseczek is resident in Australia apart from the likely

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Warin
On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I proposed some time ago to replace some surface values. The initial script run was recently done, after waiting for a potential feedback. Edit is documented at

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread Warin
On 26/2/23 18:19, Tom Brennan wrote: Do people have a view on the armchair mapping of tracks from Strava heatmaps? I can see a bunch of tracks in Kanangra-Boyd NP that have been mapped by an overseas mapper off Strava heatmap. They almost certainly don't exist on the ground. They are

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Feb 25, 2023, 22:50 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 19:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > >> shop = Bag_shop → shop = bag >> > > Is this a shop that sells bags, or "things by the bagfull"? > >> shop = watch → shop = watches >> > > This could plausibly mean watch

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Feb 25, 2023, 23:11 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Sa., 25. Feb. 2023 um 22:07 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk <> > talk@openstreetmap.org> >: > >> >> >> So shop = laundromat → shop = laundry + self_service=yes would be needed? >> > > > > it could be seen as equivalent, personally

Re: [talk-au] Mapping tracks from Strava heatmap

2023-02-26 Thread cleary
I am not familiar with the use of heatmaps for mapping but, if it involves adding non-officlal trails, then I consider it potentially dangerous and not suitable for OSM. I have a strong view that mappers and publishers of maps have a public safety responsibility. There should be nothing