Re: [talk-au] fixme=continue nodes

2013-06-24 Thread Ben Johnson
Yes… your instincts are right. Just nuke it. :-) On 25/06/2013, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Elwell andrew.elw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks I'm trying to tidy up and label some of the streets around my house (bateman) and I noticed http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1831700852 is this

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumerics in Northern Territory?

2013-06-11 Thread Ben Johnson
Hey Mark, Good question about NT alphas. I might be able to point you the right way. I'm a member of the Aussie Highways Google group… Sam Laybutt over there (admin of the group) also runs a very good website called ozroads.com.au and he has a page dedicated to the NT alphanumerics -

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-05-29 Thread Ben Johnson
On 29/05/2013, at 18:26, Michael James m.ja...@internode.on.net wrote: On 29/05/13 10:40, Ben Johnson wrote: Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the Newcastle Inner City Bypass (now being referred to by the RMS as A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring Road) should be classified as type

[talk-au] Pacific Highway fixup

2013-05-28 Thread Ben Johnson
Just advising that an enthusiastic new user renamed all the motorway sections between Newcastle and Byron Bay as Pacific Motorway over the last couple of weeks. I contacted the user last week but had no response, so I've just fixed it up myself and reset the refs from being a mix of M1 and A1

[talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-05-28 Thread Ben Johnson
Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the Newcastle Inner City Bypass (now being referred to by the RMS as A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring Road) should be classified as type Motorway …? BJ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Australia licence change redaction recovery..

2013-05-26 Thread Ben Johnson
Ian, Thanks very much for doing this exercise. I agree with all the sentiments already expressed - it's so encouraging to see we bounced back so fast, and so strong, and that all our efforts have made a difference. Everyone in the project should feel very proud of what we achieved. BJ On

[talk-au] NSW Alphanumeric Rollout Schedule

2013-05-20 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi all, Exciting news. The RMS has released details about the timing of the alphanumeric rollout in NSW. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadprojects/projects/alpha_numeric/documents/factsheets/implementation_factsheet.pdf In summary: 1. May - July 2013: Routes where the number is changing (e.g. from

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-09 Thread Ben Johnson
: Contents of Talk-au digest... Today's Topics: 1. Alphanumeric references in NSW (Ian Sergeant) 2. Re: Alphanumeric references in NSW (Ben Kelley) 3. Re: Alphanumeric references in NSW (Ian Sergeant) 4. Re: Alphanumeric references in NSW (Ben Johnson) 5. Re: Alphanumeric references

Re: [talk-au] Gates and access

2013-05-07 Thread Ben Johnson
Thanks Andrew, Would you apply these conditions to just the gate node, or the way, or both ? Ben On 07/05/2013, at 4:38 PM, Andrew Elwell andrew.elw...@gmail.com wrote: If someone knows of the accepted way seasonal access should be tagged, that would great, What's wrong with using the

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-03 Thread Ben Johnson
I agree this can be better coordinated, but not everyone uses or reads this list. I have a particular interest in these new routes… (don't ask). B74 is already majorly unveiled at the Tuggerah junction with M1 - so I turned B74 on in OSM. http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/Special/MAB/563.jpg

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumeric references in NSW

2013-05-03 Thread Ben Johnson
On 03/05/2013, at 9:00 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine the RMS in their wisdom are going to call the Hume south of Berrima the A31, rather than M31, so we'll have to make a call on whether we keep that as motorway. I'd personally be in favour of doing so. Ian.

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-16 Thread Ben Johnson
Nick… I'm not sure what you're doing, it sounds fascinating, mysterious and dangerous. I like it. Please let me know what path you're taking through Sydney so I can avoid the area completely... I don't want to crash a brand new $30m Waratah into your ladder! This info from ARTC will be handy …

Re: [talk-au] New Australian caching server. Feedback?

2012-10-08 Thread Ben Johnson
Classic. You know you've got an OSM addiction problem when... On 08/10/2012, at 0:26, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Today I had 8 gps units in the car and 5 were logging With that density, the traces you make on some residential streets must somewhat resemble the harbour

Re: [talk-au] Gold Coast Highway

2012-10-08 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi Peter, I noticed the same thing in parts of Sydney (people creating new ways for a bus route). You are right the bus route probably should be set up as a relation, comprising of existing ways so maybe contact the user who created them and ask if they object to you improving on their input

Re: [talk-au] New Australian caching server. Feedback?

2012-10-05 Thread Ben Johnson
This is awesome news. Thank you very much to Kris - this is very generous indeed. The responsiveness is much better! :-)) BJ On 05/10/2012, at 12:26 AM, Grant Slater wrote: OSM Australia, Have you noticed faster tiles this week? Australia now has a map caching server located in

Re: [talk-au] Present for keen OSMer

2012-10-01 Thread Ben Johnson
Great question... and timely, given I recently bought myself a few goodies from http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/index.php?cPath=22_37 I purchased one of each - the vest (note - the back of this particular vest is in German VERMESSUNG), the mug, and the pin. The order arrived quickly (less

Re: [talk-au] NSW Alphanumeric at last..

2012-09-27 Thread Ben Johnson
Yay Best. News. Ever. Just saw it on Channel 9 news. I can't believe the state Labor opposition labels this a waste of money... given they endorsed it years ago and spent the last 10 years erecting road signs all over NSW with the MAB routes already on them, and covered them all with

Re: [talk-au] GPS accuracy

2012-09-23 Thread Ben Johnson
the scroll wheel method under Ubuntu as I use the trackpad on that machine but I can connect a mouse if you want it tested. Cheers, BJ On 24/09/2012, at 1:16 AM, Russell Edwards wrote: On 22/09/12 10:20, Ben Johnson wrote: That is absolutely fantastic - cant wait to see it. BJ It should

Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-22 Thread Ben Johnson
it get Forster Keys from? That's an adjacent suburb to the south. On 22 September 2012 11:00, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For fast numbering, you might want to check out the technique I tried for Wharf Street, Forster NSW. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.18045lon

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 63, Issue 28

2012-09-22 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi Paul, The interpolation way opposite Blows Lane is split (see break from 25-27 at level 18). The walkway there is an open footpath between two distinct properties, whereas the walkway marked opposite Commonwealth Bank is actually an indoor arcade (needs better tagging e.g. covered)

Re: [talk-au] GPS accuracy

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Johnson
That is absolutely fantastic - cant wait to see it. BJ Sent from my iPhone On 21/09/2012, at 12:20, Russell Edwards russ...@edwds.net wrote: Hi all, On this topic -- for what it's worth I have written a JOSM plugin to help with GPS accuracy in the case of having multiple tracks covering

Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi, For fast numbering, you might want to check out the technique I tried for Wharf Street, Forster NSW. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.18045lon=152.51021zoom=17layers=M This uses the address interpolation technique. I wasn't sure at the time if I'd done it the right way because

[talk-au] Fwd: iPhone OSM street naming apps

2012-09-16 Thread Ben Johnson
Forgot to cc below in case anyone else is following. Begin forwarded message: From: Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com Date: 17 September 2012 3:24:28 AEST To: Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au Subject: Re: [talk-au] iPhone OSM street naming apps Brett, For real time OSM editing

Re: [talk-au] Getting is right

2012-09-11 Thread Ben Johnson
On 12/09/2012, at 2:45 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Individual OSM contributors have approached dozens (or perhaps hundreds, now) of governments from tiny to big and found success. They've also found some regressive governments, but hey, we won't know until we try. Good luck. I've been

Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?

2012-09-01 Thread Ben Johnson
On 01/09/2012, at 16:58, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 September 2012 11:35, Russell Edwards russell...@gmail.com wrote: I am still curious to know what the positional accuracy of survey markers is meant to be, if anyone can enlighten. First question you have to ask is

Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?

2012-08-31 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree of thought - because many others just dive in and start tracing without understanding these subtleties. You're

Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?

2012-08-31 Thread Ben Johnson
know what you've done. Ian. On 1 September 2012 09:53, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree

Re: [talk-au] redaction cleanup - unusual water feature

2012-08-24 Thread Ben Johnson
I'd join up the existing nodes if possible. South-East Queensland has many of these canal systems in residential areas. Take a look at the Gold Coast region for some tips if you want examples - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-28.0229lon=153.4144zoom=14layers=M Miami in Florida might be

Re: [talk-au] School Zones

2012-08-23 Thread Ben Johnson
Nick, That sign makes too much common sense. If adopted in NSW, they would need to put ankle bracelets on all children so the speed cameras sense a child's proximity. Let's not give them any ideas. :-) BJ On 24/08/2012, at 7:25 AM, Nick Hocking wrote: Ben wrote Does anyone else

[talk-au] Use of equals symbol within keys

2012-08-20 Thread Ben Johnson
Was recently browsing OSM Inspector and it was throwing up a warning about some tags that had been used on parts of the F3 because an equals symbol appears in the key. Specifically these source:bicycle=no = http://www.bicycleinfo.nsw.gov.au/downloads/hornsby.pdf source:cycleway=no =

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
as maxspeed=50 was partly an attempt to address this issue. Of course, there is a good argument for this being fixed in OSRM, or in post-processing the AU data, etc. Ian. On 14 August 2012 15:30, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: In regards to residential areas - I remember last year

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
/Maxspeed Does anyone else have a point of view on this with respect to Australia? Regards, John Berkers On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: In regards to residential areas - I remember last year there was some talk about the bot that added 50

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
...@gmx.com wrote: On 15/08/12 02:26, Ben Johnson wrote: I really like this, but I think your source:maxspeed=AU:urban below is a typo. It would be simply maxspeed=AU:urban The problem is that AU:urban isn't numeric. It isn't a speed at all. John

[talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-13 Thread Ben Johnson
In regards to residential areas - I remember last year there was some talk about the bot that added 50 with the (incorrect) maxspeed:source key = default residential speed limit in Australia and I think there was consensus in the local community that this was a mistake. With remapping

Re: [talk-au] Great checking/fixing progress

2012-08-02 Thread Ben Johnson
. Nice job so far :-) On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm amazed at the progress being made in some regions as per the task manager at http://rebuild.poole.ch/ Brisbane-Gold Coast - http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29 (10% checked / fixed) Sydney Basin

Re: [talk-au] Great checking/fixing progress

2012-08-02 Thread Ben Johnson
the personal counters. BJ Sent from my iPhone On 03/08/2012, at 7:03, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: The Sydney-Newcastle coastal corridor is now 100% done! It's particularly great to see the inner Newcastle

[talk-au] Great checking/fixing progress

2012-07-30 Thread Ben Johnson
I'm amazed at the progress being made in some regions as per the task manager at http://rebuild.poole.ch/ Brisbane-Gold Coast - http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29 (10% checked / fixed) Sydney Basin - http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/8 (27% checked / fixed) Sydney-Newcastle coastal strip -

Re: [talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Thread Ben Johnson
Now there's 11... I love this. Thank you Simon! This concept removes a lot of indecision. My only question is - when is it safe to click the Done button? Is it just for the definition and connection of the geometry of streets and major features, etc.. ? I just marked an area as Done,

Re: [talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Thread Ben Johnson
for adding names and other stuff from the locals. In any case in the end I suspect we will all be using either the no-name OSMI layer ir something similar. Simon Am 28.07.2012 22:02, schrieb Ben Johnson: Now there's 11... I love this. Thank you Simon! This concept removes a lot of indecision

Re: [talk-au] Getting back into it

2012-07-23 Thread Ben Johnson
Sent from my iPad On 23/07/2012, at 20:00, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, Great to hear it. I think a fair bit of the Melbourne-Sydney rail line has been lost - last I checked, anyway. Steve On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

[talk-au] Getting back into it

2012-07-22 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi all, Just re-introducing myself... This is Ben from the Central Coast (NSW). I've been off the grid for a while... some of you might remember I'm a Sydney-based train driver, and I re-mapped most of Sydney's rail network before the redaction... it took weeks of solid work and I burnt myself

Re: [talk-au] Boundary removal.

2012-02-01 Thread Ben Johnson
+1 Nick, you've obviously put a lot of thought into this and I trust your judgement. I think removing the boundaries sooner rather than later will make the remapping effort easier, and spreading the pain across a few blows now is better than waiting for a knockout hit on April 1st. Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of SOTM logo / web site design

2012-01-22 Thread Ben Johnson
On 22/01/2012, at 9:19, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi, Should OpenMobileMap http://www.openmobilemap.org/ be using the SOTM 09/10 logo and web site design? I don't think so. I'd contact them about it

Re: [OSM-talk] Geocaching.com moved to OSM (partly)

2012-01-18 Thread Ben Johnson
A nice side effect could be to further promote OSM within the geocaching community. Potentially this should bring in addtional mappers as the entrance hurdle for geocachers should not be too high: They have GPS units, go outdoors and are typically technically rather savy... Michael (user

Re: [OSM-talk] Offtopic: A vision of America's roads

2012-01-08 Thread Ben Johnson
Very interesting. It shows that this style of simplified system map is far superior to convey route and network information. Back in 1984 we visited Los Angeles and my parents bought a fold out map of the region, and on the reverse side was a colour-coded freeway system map in this same style,

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

2012-01-05 Thread Ben Johnson
On 06/01/2012, at 12:27 AM, David Findlay wrote: On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:34:28 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: Certainly not disdained upon, although I would prefer tracing imagery for areas with accurate high-res imagery like nearmap, the GPS tracks are still most welcome, especially so in other

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2012-01-03 Thread Ben Johnson
is a great year for OSM. Happy New Year, BJ On 30/12/2011, at 11:20 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 12/29/2011 10:39 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: There seems to be a duality of identity here. On one hand, some are saying lets make it more accessible and friendly to ordinary people. On the other

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-29 Thread Ben Johnson
For what it's worth I also think it's very important to have a prominent map on the front page and I believe this whole debate just highlights the fact that OSM is not ready for mainstream and remains a geeky subculture. There seems to be a duality of identity here. On one hand, some are saying

[talk-au] Remapping Sydney's railways

2011-12-21 Thread Ben Johnson
Just a heads up... I've started remapping Sydney's railway lines, given about 80% of them are marked to be wiped. I am a CityRail train driver and regularly travel over most of these train lines and have intimate knowledge of them - including track direction, electrification details,

Re: [OSM-talk] Smartphone app to OSM

2011-12-12 Thread Ben Johnson
iLOE for iPhone is pretty nifty for light editing. Not sure if it's available for Android, but worth checking out if you can get it. BJ Sent from my iPhone On 13/12/2011, at 3:49, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: That looks like an exceedingly useful app. Interesting to see OSM

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson
On 03/12/2011, at 9:10, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: On 02/12/2011, at 2:13 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: The content of these edits is in the public domain (I.e. the default residential speed limit in Australia) and these edits could be re-edited by an actual bot. Given that these

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson
On 06/12/2011, at 12:00 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 6 December 2011 11:40, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many ways i created in the belief that this was some

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson
On 06/12/2011, at 4:19 PM, i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many ways i created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted standard being used in Australia. You

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

2011-11-28 Thread Ben Johnson
On 29/11/2011, at 3:20 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: I will continue to edit to get the roads and intersections to look professional, reflecting reality, rather than the confusing, chunky rendering with an over-abundance of arrows and street names that I so often