Hi all,

I have resolved the problem with not being able to post to the list -- thanks 
Grant for sorting that out for me!

I have a local copy of the CD:NGI dataset, and have written software to analyse 
and display it, and to manipulate POIs. The display UI is pretty much designed 
to make exactly this task fairly painless -- I can probably zip through more 
than one record every 5 seconds -- so it'll be about 24 hours of work. 
Unfortunately I can't open-source this software, as it's my meal ticket, but 
I'm happy to check the school data in order to give back to the community.

Regards
Curtis.

-----Original Message-----
From: m...@martinb.za.net [mailto:m...@martinb.za.net] 
Sent: 11 February 2014 14:56
To: talk-za@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] KZN Schools Data

I was speaking to Curtis Burisch off-list, who says that he can probably do 
this checking automatically on the NGI data.

He says that he can not post to the list for some reason, but I am waiting to 
hear back from him how it goes.

Otherwise I will start to undertake that manual check in small batches. 
I have no idea how long it will take though. I predict ages, so if people are 
willing to help, maybe we can co-ordinate our efforts.

There are in excess of 30 000 records in total, so if we can do it 
(semi-)automatically, that would obviously be a major bonus.

I agree that being able to feed back any errors we turn up would be good, and 
makes it more likely that we can potentially get access to more data.

--
mtb

> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:25:53 +0400
> From: Gerhardus Geldenhuis <gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] KZN Schools Data
>
> If we can feedback to DoE that would be fantastic. I would rather see 
> a slower but more thorough process. Being able to contribute back to 
> the data source would make for a good future model of contributing 
> data and could encourage more contributions from other sources and 
> government departments.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On 10 February 2014 17:39, <m...@martinb.za.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:47 AM,  <m...@martinb.za.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I came across this the other day:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.education.gov.za/EMIS/EMISDownloads/tabid/466/Default.as
>>>> px
>>>>
>>>> It is spatial data for all the schools in the country. I am not 
>>>> sure whether this can be used or not, but it might be useful 
>>>> nonetheless, especially for rural schools. I am not 100% sure what 
>>>> the guidelines on importing this sort of data are.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I informally asked the Department of Basic Education (DoBE) around a 
>>> year ago if OpenStreetMap may use the dataset. They said we may.
>>> I have also been in contact with the DoBE employee who maintains the 
>>> dataset, he is eager for us to feed back updates/corrections.
>>>
>>> The position data is unfortunately not reliably accurate for rural 
>>> schools.
>>>
>>> Gerhardus and I have a basic repo with some work in it:
>>> https://github.com/gjngeldenhuis/osm-za-schools
>>> The data can be loaded into QGIS (or similar), but converting the 
>>> data to OSM format would require work and coordination. (ogr2osm, 
>>> buffer excluding existing data etc)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Grant
>>>
>>
>> Hi Grant,
>>
>> I am wondering if this is the source of Google Map's school 
>> positions.
>> Most of them appear to be fairly accurate, based on my wanderings in 
>> the sticks of KZN and the Transkei. At least, there is usually a 
>> school where Google Maps says there is one. Would simply (hahaha) 
>> checking on the aerial imagery that there is what looks like a school 
>> at places that the data says there is one be enough to constitute 
>> fact-checking for the time-being? They are usually quite visible as 
>> schools, in my experience.
>>
>> If we can find a sane way of uploading them in small batches of 15 or 
>> 20 schools, that sort of checking should be doable, if very 
>> time-consuming.
>> But, at the same time, we can feed that back to the DoE.
>>
>> Will look at what you guys have in the github repo.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> mtb
>>
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