On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:32:42 +1100
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I believe its actually dumped into the town sewerage system which in
the Murrumbidgee means it is all going to be recycled into drinking
water for Adelaide after we've used it 10 more times.
And will probably improve the quality
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:41:10 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
Does anyone have a suggestion on marking non-existent roads, so
people don't waste time trying to map them?
when you get to his area, non-existent roads are often roads into
properties,
John Smith wrote:
You can do this I guess it's a matter of rendering. I think
this
discussion has highlighted an underlying issue that is
beyond the
rendering issue however. The underlying issue is that you
don't consider
administratively equal a suburb and a rural named
area despite the
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:14:46 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
What about the 90% of Australia that isn't metro areas and these
boundaries are all over the place and don't line up with towns,
They still provide general enough information
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:59:48 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
Not sure what your point here is Liz apart from interesting
information?
Although it does back up what I was saying about the ABS begin
incomplete not having every designated place
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:50:22 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
But until someone has the time to fix it, it will provide someone
who doesn't know the area well enough information to be in
approximately the right place (same as most landsat traced
John Smith wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote:
Why remove suburb boundaries?
Because they aren't suburb boundaries, they're ABS boundaries.
In 95% of cases they're close enough, are you going to throw out the
baby with the bath water and dispose
John Smith wrote:
I'm not saying they're inaccurate, I'm saying they create noise in some areas
rather than showing useful information.
Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing could be said
about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your perception of
what needs to
John Smith wrote:
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote:
Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing
could be said
about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your
perception of
what needs to be on the map.
The same argument could be made for UK
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:41:38 +1000
Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
Hi Folks,
Quick question about roundabouts. (junction=roundabout)
Originally, I didn't name roundabout junctions, but when I validate
my work in JOSM, it identifies them as 'Unnamed Ways' in the warnings
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't have a problem with uploading gps traces to osm but
I can see no benifit if I'm just going to edit them in josm
anyway and given that they are all one second data that's a
lot of data to put on
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:22:42 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated.
Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and
one or two on the journey back.
One large and one small?
I'd agree.
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote:
The reason I chose to put in the (roughly estimated) 12nm
boundary was
that from the research I could find it's the *legal*
definition
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote:
Interestingly that page I linked lists the Exclusive
Economic Zone (the
200nm case) as extending from the outside of the 12nm
limit, which
On Mon, 25 May 2009 18:50:15 +1030
Graeme Wilson wandere...@live.com.au wrote:
If you need something checked anywhere, ie street names etc, as long
as it will only take a few minutes as I am passing through, then make
a list and I will see what I can do.
On good thing to get since you
On Tue, 26 May 2009 07:31:01 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
My original question was in relation to concreate slab crossings
which technically aren't fords because they dry far more often than
wet, and they aren't raised at all so they're not
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:40:04 +1000
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Liz wrote:
1433 nodes
split it into 600+ and 700+, still couldn't upload the change.
I wait on the bug report - someone has another problem with
relations and they may be related problems
Merkaartor
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:47:04 +1000
Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
I think I'm with Darren on all counts.
I think the only thing I'd add is where local knowledge tells you
that the ABS data aligns to some previously unmapped feature (e.g. a
river) that cannot be made out on
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:29:52 +1030
Darrin Smith bel...@beldin.org wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:46:44 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The upload has completed (much faster running from dev).
There were a couple of problems:-]
* Gruyere
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:38:40 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Futher poking around I've found the 'Unclassified SA' 'suburb',
containing over 100 segments scattered all over the state, I assume
most other states will have a similar object, what's the thoughts of
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:51:35 +1100
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
Hi all,
It's really nice to see suburb boundaries popping up around the
place, it just makes the map look that little bit more professional.
Yeah it is isn't it, Franc has done some nice work.
There seems to be some naming
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:50:20 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
I know very little about the rendering, but I would suspect not. each
boundary is going to divide two suburbs
and may of them are quite short - so I would expect that representing
them on a generic map is quite
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:33:09 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice.
Do you want me to try to exclude some suburbs so as to not overlay
the areas you have
already done ?
Nah, there's only about a dozen that I've got fully completed and
they're all close enough together I'll
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:09:15 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, it seems my conversion script is now producing sane results so
it's time to work out what the final output should look like.
The first question that I think we need to answer is, how do we
represent the
data
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:21:11 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll have a think about whether can I work out something clever to
see how well postcode boundaries
match suburb boundaries.
I suspect I am not going to be able to process both the suburb and
post code data
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:44:50 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
After some nashing of teeth and swearing I have script that converts
the ABS data in to a set of non-overlapping ways with some minimal
info on the ways.
I'd like some volunteers who I can give some subset of the
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:23:07 +1030
Jack Burton j...@saosce.com.au wrote:
Consider two suburbs, A B, whose boundary is currently defined by a
river. Now let's say that by the time the next ABS update occurs, that
boundary has changed, and a small part of what used to be suburb A has
become
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:53:01 +1030
Cameron osm-mailing-li...@justcameron.com wrote:
How much do suburbs change anyway? Perhaps any changes could simply be
introduced manually.
~Cameron
Yeah I did think that might be an easier solution, I was addressing
automatic updates because jackb brought
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:26:13 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
There are two issues that I have come across with converting to osm:-
1. What way do we want to represent the data, e.g closed ways or
relations consisting
of borders - something else ?
I'd personally
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:52:43 +1100
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
From a 'philosophical point of view', I tend to agree that suburbs
are made of
a set of boundaries between adjacent areas. This was not how I did it
in my first (very quick) attempt ;-(
An advantage of having to
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:29:39 +1030
Jack Burton j...@saosce.com.au wrote:
1. What way do we want to represent the data, e.g closed ways or
relations consisting of borders - something else ?
Closed ways (areas) - as that's how ABS define them, so it will make
merging updated ABS data
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:18:53 +1030
Jack Burton j...@saosce.com.au wrote:
But I'm still not a fan of relations for suburb boundaries - even more
so, now that we know that the authoritative set for Australia (the ABS
data) is organised as a set of polygons (one for each suburb), since
we'll
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:32:12 +1030
Cameron osm-mailing-li...@justcameron.com wrote:
All,
The directory is now available at
http://www.osmaustralia.org/gregorysmaps.php Thanks to Matt White
(Gaffa) for the hosting!
It's a great resource for naming streets traced from Yahoo. When
doing
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:36:43 +1000 (EST)
i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:21:02 +1000 (EST)
i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Nick, My worry with the Old map + yahoo combo is that some
armchair mappers may over-ride existing surveyed data (I've
already seen surveyed stuff
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:59:36 +1100
Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
There was a large roundabout missing in Mt Barker ( Intersection of
Mann Street and Adelaide Road).
Previously I have been unable to fix this since there was a relation
on Adelaide road which made it impossible to
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:24:47 +1100
Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
Splitting the way should not effect the park at all
Stephen,
Every time I try to select the way, to split it, one of the parks get
selected instead.
I don't seem to be able to get to the road to add tthe two
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:22:05 -0800 (PST)
bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote:
So after realising this I can't actually stand in support of
junction=roundabout on a point (or some other similar proposal) as a
permanent fixture, but would fully support it as a 'temporary' tag
to indicate at some
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:08:54 +1100
Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote:
+ When you cross this kind of roundabout when cycling, or with a
learner driver, you don't have to worry about the characteristics of
the road you are crossing (since you never turn into the traffic of
the cross road,
that your suspicions may be correct, or perhaps that the
person who drew it in based it upon personal experience from a long
time ago (dodgy source at best ;). I think a polite message suggesting
that you are concerned about the source of his data might not go astray
in this case.
--
Darrin Smith
s
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:10:32 +1100
Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote:
As is everyone - but we can't forget that a linear road is always
going to be a representation of a 2 dimension road surface, and
currently that is what we have to work with in OSM. If you were
drawing the full road
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:31:34 +1100
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Mini_roundabouts
Mini-roundabouts can be a painted circle, a low dome, or often are
small garden beds. Painted roundabouts and low domes can easily be
driven over by most vehicles, which
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:45:13 +1000
Thomas Schroeder thomas.schroe...@red-sofa.de wrote:
Hi,
I am running JOSM on a Pentium D machine with 2 cores [but only with
32-bit linux (Fedora 9)] and no problem so far.
I would suggest to try the latest JVM / JDK.
My Java is this:
java -version
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:56:55 +1100
Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
There are emergency boom gates across the EastLink and CityLink
tunnel entrances (well, back aout 300m), used to stop traffic
entering the tunnels in an emergency, or when there is an accident in
the tunnel. I believe
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:53:44 +1100
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Starting again about *round*abouts
The renderers accept two methods of drawing a *round*about.
There is a quick and easy method ideal for where two simple ways
cross. Somebody has decided that this is called a
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:25:25 +1100
Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Matt White wrote:
Cameron wrote:
I wonder if it would be feasible to map the whole of Naracoorte
for $400? To do it on the cheap you could camp at the
showgrounds. Would need power for a laptop and
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking at your B37 Alexandrina Flaxley Rd roundabout, you don't
need oneway=yes(it's implied), clockwise(just draw it in a clockwise
direction), ref(roundabout's don't inherit route numbers, it's for
when roundabout's have
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:03:42 +1100
Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
But not all sections of the road in one state have the same code
(Sturt Highway being exactly the case in point, it is NOT National
A20 for the last ~5km between Gepps Cross and Pooraka
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:40:49 +1030
Kim Hawtin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darrin Smith wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking at your B37 Alexandrina Flaxley Rd roundabout, you
don't need oneway=yes(it's implied), clockwise(just draw
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:08:11 +1100
Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darrin Smith wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:22:53 +1100
Peter Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://openstreetmap.org/user/BlueMM/diary/3679
The site he got that from www.itworld.com as referenced
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:21:54 +1000
Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
could the person who drew rectilinear boxes around most australian
cities explain the reasoning behind these boxes and their positions?
the box for Canberra goes outside the State / Territory boundary
which is an unlikely place
Heya everyone, don't die of shock that there's a post to the list...
Recently chatting with another OSM'r the issue of whether it was
appropriate that landuse=* tags and highway=* tags should be completely
seperate or if they can share common nodes in some places.
Kinda came down thinking it
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:40:33 +1000
Nick Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While cleaning a whole lot of duplicate ways in the ACT OSM data, I
noticed an unusual merthod of mapping a small section of road that is
in the shape of the letter T.
There seem to be 3 ways of tagging this road.
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:38:20 +1000 (EST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Just a general comment and a couple of suggestions.
Having been adding items into osm for the last year I've noticed
people spending a lot of time tracing roads from landsat, yahoo, etc.
While this is admirable
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:29:12 +1000
Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
It's tragic to see that as usual with most of the people who dive in
they haven't actually checked out the AU or SA wiki which make it
pretty clear what should be primary roads in rural
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:25:06 +0100
80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
Just a general comment and a couple of suggestions.
Having been adding items into osm for the last year I've noticed
people spending a lot of time tracing
On Sun, 25 May 2008 15:15:32 +0930
Andy Zivkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
A few weeks ago I found out about OSM. Actually, it was when someone
posted about it on the Linux SA mailing list. Anyway, I checked OSM
and noticed that none of the streets in my suburb were mapped
(Hallett
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:53:49 +1030
Jack Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 11:47 +1030, Darrin Smith wrote:
OK, to take this a step further I'll start the ball rolling in
Adelaide: (As we get a consensus I'll write a Adelaide/South
Australia Wiki page to reflect
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:52:00 +1100
Ian Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, rest assured this is a live debate. Check out
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Highway_administrative/physical_descriptions
That's an interesting page, good to see people are addressing
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