Re: [Talk-GB] Misguided user kane123

2012-01-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 January 2012 10:34, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 January 2012 16:36, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 13 January 2012 13:41, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone fancy dealing with http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123 ? All

Re: [Talk-GB] Misguided user kane123

2012-01-13 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 January 2012 13:41, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone fancy dealing with http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kane123 ? All of their changesets so far are bogus, and need reverting. I have reverted the changesets. I have also put a notice on the account, the person will be

Re: [OSM-talk] transiki is gone

2012-01-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 January 2012 15:11, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: http://transiki.org/ is now officially gone... The content is gone, website is gone... Oh well... Steve posted in Feb 2011 the lot was up for grabs else he would let the domain expire:

Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

2012-01-06 Thread Grant Slater
On 6 January 2012 11:11, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Frans wrote: sound my server will in problem. I'm curious how fast you are rendering tiles anyway? If there are 91,625,968,981 then how out of date might the first one be by the time you render the last.

Re: [talk-au] Finding missing streetnames

2012-01-05 Thread Grant Slater
On 6 January 2012 04:57, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Quoting Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 13:47, David Findlay da...@woodypointcomms.com.au wrote: Cloudmade has a noname map style:

Re: [OSM-talk] Permission for my work

2011-12-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 December 2011 17:00, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Then can we get the OSM admins to split your edits into the new user and old user based on their location? It would be relatively easy to make a bounding

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Unpaved roads in Kruger

2011-12-13 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 December 2011 11:33, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: Hi Tomas, I think there are only two members of this mailing list - you... and I... :-) This list has 128 subscribers. (91 non-digest, 37 digest.) ...  Question: is marking of such roads as highway=track ok or it would

Re: [OSM-talk] search concept

2011-12-09 Thread Grant Slater
On 9 December 2011 15:46, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all if we see the osm website, there are search, anyone can share how it work? can we use the lucene as index , or solr as index server www.openstreetmap.org uses http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread Grant Slater
On 1 December 2011 13:48, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 01/12/11 22:34, Mark Pulley wrote: User cc-cleaner? I've had a quick look at some of the changesets, and they all seem to be just deleting things. I have a suspicion that the things being deleted are by users who haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm to distribute south africa geodata

2011-11-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 November 2011 07:22, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: On 25.11.2011 01:29, maning sambale wrote: Sharing this news: http://afrispatial.co.za/open-data/osm-to-become-a-distributor-of-ngis-south-african-topo-data/ sounds like another massive data import. Is the community

Re: [OSM-talk] Restore deleted node please

2011-11-20 Thread Grant Slater
On 20 November 2011 12:28, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hello, Could someone please restore this deleted node?  It's a bus terminal in Seoul. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/368736042 Done. / Grant ___ talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Database Re-Build

2011-11-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 November 2011 08:07, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:16:47 +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: The numbers: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/treemap.png - each square represents one user, weighted by size of contribution. Green=accepted, Red=Declined or has not

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-10-31 Thread Grant Slater
On 31 October 2011 11:18, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The answer from AGIMO (data.gov.au) will actually be irrelevant. I was hoping that the original communications would make clear exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] Will OSM tiles be CC-0 soon?

2011-10-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 October 2011 11:19, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I want to talk about the tiles, since they have always been a very important part of these project, ever since we got white-lines-on-landsat[1]. When we are ODBL pure, the tiles produced by OSMF servers can have any license

[OSM-Talk-ZA] Census 2011 using OpenStreetMap

2011-10-24 Thread Grant Slater
OpenStreetMap South Africa, I'm pleased to see that Stats SA / Census 2011 is using OpenStreetMap on their Verify Census Fieldworker website: http://interactive.statssa.gov.za:8088/kyfw/ Regards Grant ___ Talk-ZA mailing list

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Full OSM Dataset

2011-10-19 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Lindy-Anne, On 19 October 2011 10:08, babyan...@gmail.com wrote: Good day I am looking to compare the datasets for South Africa from 2007 to 2011, but I cannot download the full file with our internet connection. Is there anyone who has the data so that I can copy the data? The

Re: [Talk-GB] ooc.* legend

2011-10-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 October 2011 16:54, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Thanks; how do we get that added to the legend? I've made a minor update, but will wait on more detail from Andy Robinson. / Grant ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-09-27 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 September 2011 12:09, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Andrew. I wonder if Grant received a similar answer but interpreted it in a different way.  Grant? Hi 80n, yes the responses will be forthcoming. We are waiting on some further clarifications. LWG also now only meet

Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-09-27 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 September 2011 11:22, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Below I quote the response from the data.gov.au team which I received: OpenStreetMap (OSM) are utilising datasets made available from data.gov.au under CC-BY 2.5 or CC-BY 3.0 only.  They are required to attribute the

[talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted

2011-09-23 Thread Grant Slater
The Licensing Working Group has obtained explicit special permission to incorporate geographic datasets from data.gov.au in the OpenStreetMap project database published under any free and open license, including ODbL, provided that a) we provide primary attribution in a reasonable manner (

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance Work (Partial Outage)

2011-09-02 Thread Grant Slater
Quick Reminder: This weekend we have a partial outage... Further details: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Power_Maintenance_Q3_2011 http://stateofthemap.org/ will be available this weekend, including tickets / registration. On 28 June 2011 12:21, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey Hills Mapping Party, Sunday September 25th

2011-08-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 August 2011 16:23, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Grant It's an OSM mapping party.  Are you going to come along? Great. What brought on the change of heart? Sure, it could be fun... I'll bring some OSM promo material. / Grant ___ Talk-GB mailing

[OSM-talk] Mapnik Tile Rendering outage this evening.

2011-08-25 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, There will be a 2 hour rendering outage for tile.openstreetmap.org this evening from approximately 17:00 GMT. Static tiles will be available. Maps will still be viewable on the openstreetmap.org homepage and on other people's websites. We’ll be serving tiles from a back-up tile server.

Re: [Talk-GB] Surrey Hills Mapping Party, Sunday September 25th

2011-08-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 August 2011 14:49, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: There's going to be a mapping party in the Surrey Hills on September 25th. More details here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surrey_Hills_Mapping_Party This is the second Surrey Hills Mapping Party.  The first was almost five years ago

[OSM-Talk-ZA] Out of Copyright Topographic Available

2011-08-11 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Guys, With help from Lance, we have converted a large set of old, out of copyright government topographic map sheets into a web slippy map. See them here: http://grant.dev.openstreetmap.org/za-ooc-slippy/ The map sheets are mostly 1st edition from the 1940s and 1950s. No freeways! It is

[OSM-talk] Rendering Server Outage - Static Tiles

2011-07-25 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, The tile rendering server (yevaud) has experienced a hardware failure this morning. We've switched to the backup server, which only serves static tiles. The tiles may be up to 10 days old. Grant Part of OSM sysadmin Team. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering Server Outage - Static Tiles

2011-07-25 Thread Grant Slater
All clear. Tile rendering is enabled again. Regards Grant On 25 July 2011 10:50, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: OSM, The tile rendering server  (yevaud) has experienced a hardware failure this morning. We've switched to the backup server, which only serves static tiles

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 10:55, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. We as a community can't verify this. http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html mentions nothing, all we have is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 11:30, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The traced data is a new work and therefore untainted by the Bing license. (NearMap doesn't see using aerial imagery this way.) The license

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 10:55, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. We as a community can't verify this. http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html mentions nothing, all we have is

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 11:30, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The traced data is a new work and therefore untainted by the Bing license. (NearMap doesn't see using aerial imagery this way.) The license

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 July 2011 15:09, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: FOSMs not going anywhere for some simple reasons. The people running it are ineffective, the data will be incompatible when OSM switches, fosm doesn't have any of the agreements to derive data from aerial imagery. I could go on, but

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance Work (Partial Outage)

2011-06-28 Thread Grant Slater
Some secondary OpenStreetMap services will be unavailable during the following dates, due to power maintenance work at our server hosting: - 2nd and 3rd July 2011. (Saturday Sunday) - 30th and 31st July 2011. (Saturday Sunday) - 3rd and 4th September 2011. (Saturday Sunday) - and 1 weekday (to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 June 2011 17:22, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer o...@amen-online.de wrote: Hi Grant, can I still expect a contructive reply to my email answering your question about my concerns, or should I simply hit the „decline“ button? Hi Olaf, Sorry I have not had time to think through your suggestions

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhauling the Beginners’ Guide

2011-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew-2 wrote: It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t beginners’ level material any more and soon won’t be available at all. First I've heard of this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Aerial_Imagery

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhauling the Beginners’ Guide

2011-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 June 2011 15:00, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/25/2011 9:59 AM, Grant Slater wrote: On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com  wrote: Andrew-2 wrote: It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t beginners’ level material any more and soon

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - 23rd June 2011

2011-06-23 Thread Grant Slater
Quick update. The maintenance has been completed. All services are up and running again. API + www.openstreetmap.org is running a little slower than normal due to reduced capacity, but will return to normal late Friday afternoon (GMT). / Grant On 9 June 2011 21:17, Grant Slater openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Thank you sysadmins!

2011-06-23 Thread Grant Slater
On 24 June 2011 02:45, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: OpenStreetMap came through the scheduled maintenance on 23 June in great shape. Pictures or it didn't happen! http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrywood/5863059620/in/photostream

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-21 Thread Grant Slater
On 21 June 2011 05:46, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hang on, here's Nearmap's statement: All such additions or edits submitted to OSM prior to 17 June 2011 may be held and continue to be used by OSM under the terms in place between OSM and the individual which submitted the

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-21 Thread Grant Slater
On 21 June 2011 09:39, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 21 June 2011 05:46, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hang on, here's Nearmap's statement: All such additions or edits submitted to OSM prior to 17 June 2011 may be held and continue to be used by OSM under

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License for OSM tiles

2011-06-20 Thread Grant Slater
On 20 June 2011 10:52, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: Any thoughts? Thread starts here: Best license for future tiles? - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-November/005045.html There are some interesting thoughts bits between the noise. / Grant

Re: [OSM-talk] bulk_upload.py consistently results in 500 server error

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 June 2011 07:34, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/17 KKL Import kkl_imp...@hotmail.com: Can somebody please help? How come a perfectly legal osmChange, containing just a single way, is being rejected time and again? Has this been resolved yet? It almost sounds like a very

Re: [talk-au] ODBL and real life...

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 June 2011 14:38, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention that SVG files are most likely produced works, even those they aren't raster images, so converting to SVG and then back to map data would potentially be pretty trivial. Nearly 12 months since you raised this

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2011 06:15, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 June 2011 12:16, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on my suburb (Brunswick East), and keep coming across tangled messes of ways caused by the boundary data effectively floating above

Re: [talk-au] ODBL and real life...

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 June 2011 16:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 June 2011 00:55, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: If however on the other hand if someone created an SVG file specially for the purpose of extracted OSM data and tags, it would be extremely difficult

Re: [talk-au] ODBL and real life...

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 June 2011 22:20, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:25 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: We have people subverting our CC-BY-SA license right now!!1! *zomg* And they wouldn't be abusing our ODbL license in future. Case: UN: http

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Uniteed State part 00 and part 01

2011-06-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 June 2011 11:44, Saphy Mo saphy...@yahoo.com wrote: americas.osm.bz2.part.00 (3814.7M) americas.osm.bz2.part.01 (2590.9M) Dears, on the website ' http://downloads.cloudmade.com/americas#downloads_breadcrumbs ' there are two files for USA. as part 00 and 01. But I don't know how

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2011 14:41, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote: It seems a bit backward to block my new contributions just because nobody got around to talking to the OS folks yet... There have been several attempts to

[OSM-Talk-ZA] SA Transport as GTFS data

2011-06-14 Thread Grant Slater
Talk-ZA, OpenStreetMap is use. The University of Pretoria is currently busy with mass transit simulation of a number of cities in South Africa as part of their transport development research. One of the products of this research was that all the metro-rail data in these cities is being captured

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - 23rd June 2011

2011-06-09 Thread Grant Slater
Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. Thursday 7:30am (23rd June 2011 GMT/UTC+0) the API and map editing on www.openstreetmap.org will be unavailable. The maintenance period is expected to last for 12 hours. The following services will be unavailable during the maintenance period: API,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread Grant Slater
://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Member_Bios - Grant Slater (me) - Non GIS field - Michael Collinson - Non GIS field. Former board member. http://www.osmfoundation.org/index.php?title=Board_Member_Biosoldid=392 - Steve Coast - Resigned Cloudmade 2010. Employee @ Bing. http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] T4A

2011-06-08 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 June 2011 17:48, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: How do you know they use OSM? They are using OpenLayers and parts of the Mapnik rendering stack but as far as I know they are using purely their own data. It took them many months to get a decent coastline. I wouldn't be surprised

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 June 2011 09:35, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Frederik Ramm frederik@... writes: 3. OSMF to choose a new license that is free and open, present it to OSM community for vote, and get 2/3 of active mappers to agree with the new license. This is the only bit that is new, and the 2/3 of

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 June 2011 03:42, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 22:18 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: Yes, you got blocked on 16th May by the looks of it. I don't think I did it so it was probably one of my colleagues. Is there not some sort of audit trail or changelog for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Recent spike in the CT acceptance graph

2011-05-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 31 May 2011 00:44, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There seems to be a huge jump in the rate of CT acceptances (and declines, if you look close enough). About 3000 acceptances in a span of 36 hours: http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/license_count.html Did somebody do a mass email

Re: [talk-au] Wiki censorship

2011-05-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 May 2011 06:32, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2011 06:38, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Set of rules made by one group, complaints handled by same group, prosecution handled by same group, judgement made by same group, punishment handled by same group.

Re: [talk-au] Wiki censorship

2011-05-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 May 2011 14:02, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2011 22:56, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Grant has absolutely no respect for user wishes, he's defaced my own wiki page, which I can no longer edit, after I left a note asking people not to edit my

Re: [talk-au] Wiki censorship

2011-05-17 Thread Grant Slater
On 17 May 2011 11:54, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: It seems if you are on the wining side of an argument you end up blocked, so I'm most likely going to start an aussie wiki and not care about the official wiki As suggested by the #osm irc channel, I think you have misspelt

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 May 2011 13:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: btw.: is there a text similar to the tile usage policy (logo usage policy)? No, there is no formal policy document. There was discussion of adopting http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy or similar when the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 May 2011 14:54, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/16 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com: On 16 May 2011 13:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: btw.: is there a text similar to the tile usage policy (logo usage policy

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 May 2011 22:46, Yann Coupin y...@coupin.net wrote: Hi, Just spotted that new app which is using osm's logo as the app's icon. I'm pretty sure this is unlicensed use and it should be taken down but I don't know who should start the dialog with the dev and/or apple. App link :

[OSM-talk] Quicker Tile Rendering

2011-05-08 Thread Grant Slater
Hi OSM, The OSM tile server has been upgraded over the last few days. Changes should now appear much quicker on the map. Many thanks to Jon Burgess, the Mapnik.org guys and the others for making this happen. Technical: The rendering database was switched to an Intel 320 Series 600GB SSD disk,

Re: [OSM-talk] Quicker Tile Rendering

2011-05-08 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 May 2011 16:18, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The full DB reload into PG9 used approximately 1TB of the SSD write capacity of a rating of 60TB. Now that only diffs are being applied Does that mean

[OSM-talk] FAQs from help.osm.org

2011-05-05 Thread Grant Slater
1) What are the most common mapping mistakes that other users make? http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1022/what-are-the-most-common-mapping-mistakes-that-other-users-make 2) How do I see the history for my area?

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Wait, why did the Australian government stop using CC-by-SA and move to CC-by? I actually wasn't aware of this, maybe because CC-by-SA adds

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 May 2011 12:43, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 02/05/2011 05:53, Andrew Gregory wrote: I just had to comment on this because I could hardly believe what I was reading... A quick note to point out that we'd wouldn't be able to have this discussion on IRC as we either live in

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Policy - Valid User Agent

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 May 2011 02:24, Aldo Caruso aldo.car...@argencasas.com wrote: I'm developing a Delphi unit to display slippy maps which shall be used by an application. The Tile Usage Policy states that a Valid User Agent should be identified. The library I'm using to connect as an HTTP client has by

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Policy - Valid User Agent

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 May 2011 02:39, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Aldo, The sys-admin team is likely asleep right now (it's pretty late in London) ... Sysadmins never sleep ;-) / Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 12:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed that there is a new OSM logo in the wiki. I find it strange that important things like changing the well established logo of the project are beeing changed without any discussion or notice on any of the lists,

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 17:32, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/30 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: I like the haphazard way in which things are done around here. And I'm not saying this tongue-in-cheek, I really do. It gives me hope that we're not yet in a situation where

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 19:04, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Grant Slater writes:   Do you think the new logo is an improvement over the old logo? If I had only published this logo a month ago, we wouldn't be having this argument now: http://russnelson.com/temp/russ-osm-logo.gif While

Re: [OSM-talk] Real time editing visualization

2011-04-27 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 April 2011 15:28, Mikel mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a visualization that shows changeset commits in real time? Would be as easy as refreshing the history GeoRSS feed every minute in OpenLayers. That actually would be a nice feature for the history page as well (but static)

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 April 2011 09:41, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: fosm.org looks pretty good with potlatch2. Just need a tile server or to setup my own again - how does one get a big fat planet.osm?

[talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
entity out to steal all our precious geodata ZOMG. Humbly, Grant Slater aka Firefishy Not a pommy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 April 2011 22:06, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Bluntly, CC-by-SA for geodata is fine here. It's good enough for our government, it's good enough for us. (Au government now is using CC-by for data). We believe in Share-Alike. Actually, we have been brought up to believe in

Re: [talk-au] Reverting a bad edit?

2011-04-21 Thread Grant Slater
On 21 April 2011 05:05, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Completed. Please check the area as I don't know what should be there. This isn't the only large scale delete by new user within minutes of signing up. Recent example in the UK: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7907122

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Are CT contributors are in breach of the CC-BY-SA license?

2011-04-17 Thread Grant Slater
On 17 April 2011 16:56, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 April 2011 13:30, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: The question is whether you can upload a CC-BY-SA licensed work under any other license than CC-BY-SA? I am sorry if

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Rights granted to OSMF (Section 2 of the CT)

2011-04-17 Thread Grant Slater
On 17 April 2011 18:40, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: 2. Has the OSMF any commercial intentions ?  I cannot imagine that OSMF want to sell the OSM-database to anyone (??!); or is the following phrase meant to transfer (sub-license) the right for

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 April 2011 23:36, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I would like a big player with a big legal department - say, for example, Navteq - grabbing our data for a reasonably well mapped place, perhaps a city only,

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 April 2011 00:38, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: If data is tainted in a way that makes in incompatible with the currently used license then it will have to be removed in order not to put the project at risk (e.g. data copied from proprietary sources). This is independent of the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
:55, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 15 April 2011 00:38, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: If data is tainted in a way that makes in incompatible with the currently used license then it will have to be removed in order not to put the project at risk (e.g. data

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 April 2011 21:11, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: What happens in the future if I decline? Can I accept at a later date? Yes you can accept at a later date. Regards Grant Part of LWG. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 17:26, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately I some of my edits used some sources that looked fine under the for CC-by-SA terms but on closer inspection of the ODBL terms, which was done after I blindly followed the advice of another contributor, I am not at

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 19:05, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I oppose the change, primarily because of the damage it will cause. I've already seen what removing small amounts of data will do (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-March/057318.html) and do not wish to see

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 19:33, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 4/14/2011 2:20 PM, Grant Slater wrote: The revert script used to remove Anthony's edits (which were traced from Google) was a basic revert script which only used API methods. There were also mistakes made like reverting the items

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 21:46, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:10:19 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: I am sure there are going to be a few cases where difficult decisions are going to have to be made. We will not have been the only open source

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] definitions of free and open

2011-04-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 April 2011 08:04, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/11 Krysha Krysha kry...@rambler.ru: Hello! Why in the Contributor Terms does not contain definitions of free and open.  Different organizations may have different understanding of these terms. For example, there is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Other Mapnik XML styles?

2011-04-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 April 2011 03:48, Daniel Sabo daniels...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any collections of other mapnik styles for OSM data? I'm looking for other map styles to render a osm2pgsql database with. 2 quick ones... MapQuest Open: https://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style OpenPisteMap:

Re: [OSM-talk] unable to download OSM data

2011-04-09 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 April 2011 04:11, S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: Communication time out has occured with http://api.openstreetmao.org/api/0.6/ both in JOSM and Potlatch2. But Potlatch1 seems OK. How about other people? Working ok for me. (ignoring your typo in the url) / Grant

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 06:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt OSMF seeking to make a rapid agreement with NearMap as was done with Bing? This really

Re: [talk-au] Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories

2011-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 13:12, Ashley Kyd a...@kyd.com.au wrote: Hi all, Just trying to do a bit of research to catch up on the issues but found the wiki a bit unhelpful. I've started categorising data sources by license. If you have a spare moment or two and know of any I've missed, please pop by

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 12:07, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I don't see a lolcat on that page, was it on another page? Certainly the lolcat on the front page of the osm wiki makes me wonder about the IQ of the page writers I removed the lolcat from the decline page + translations... It

Re: [talk-au] Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories

2011-04-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 13:51, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 22:12 +1000, Ashley Kyd wrote: Hi all, Just trying to do a bit of research to catch up on the issues but found the wiki a bit unhelpful. I've started categorising data sources by license. If you have a

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-06 Thread Grant Slater
On 6 April 2011 10:51, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:31:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com didn't write: (Michael Collinson did) For clarity: - This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before May 2010 and who have not accepted

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-06 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 April 2011 00:37, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 22:09 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote: So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data? Well, it depends what you read.  

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] RAND Corporation license violation

2011-03-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 March 2011 13:56, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: I was checking some papers at work today and accidentally found this license violation (both Attribution and Share-Alike) by the RAND Corporation:

Re: [talk-au] Splitting ways with ABS data, and the new OSM terms

2011-03-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 March 2011 12:10, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: As no-one has answered this question yet, I thought I'd better re-ask the question, as it will determine whether I can agree to the new terms or not. On 23/02/2011, at 4:27 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: Quoting Andrew Laughton

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 05:49, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: The problem is, any fork under the existing licence can continue without problem.  Any fork under the new licence, cannot use any data unless the user who contributed that data can/will give them 100% rights.  Those against the

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 10:57, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: Grant Slater writes: Not true. ODbL licensed data *can* be forked at any time without asking anyone for their blessing. I don't see how you come to the conclusion otherwise. The Licensing Working Group consulted

[Talk-de] Blocked Tile Scaper and Issues

2011-03-21 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Talk-de, First apologies for my email being in English. I do not yet speak German. Feel free to translate. I have had to blocked the tile scaping app Mobile Atlas Creator from mass downloading tiles from tile.openstreetmap.org, it was causing an undue strain on our limited resources and

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