On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
>> On this particular issue I believe you should use different tagging.
>> Currently there is almost no use of access=permit
>>
The reimport of NYS DEC Lands that I proposed this spring is now complete,
except as noted below. Now would be a good time to check that I got it
right.
I am aware of the following issues that need to be resolved before I call
the import 'complete.'
(1) I have not imported a fair number of
Sorry about bothering people one more time. It occurs to me that folks
might be interested in how bad the topological problems with the
original import were. In the next day or so, before the
low-zoom-level tiles are re-rendered, you might want to check out:
a
consensus that landuse=forest would not be tagging for the renderer.
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Kevin Kenny
<kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe that I have resolutions to all of the issues that I've
> discussed here over the last few weeks. I've done several dry runs o
I believe that I have resolutions to all of the issues that I've
discussed here over the last few weeks. I've done several dry runs of
selected parcels, and I'm confident that the workflow will not tread
on the work of human mappers, particularly since I'm inspecting
everything in JOSM before
ordinarily do not move. Since I'm displacing property lines a couple
of meters inward to reduce GPS noise, the separation should be clean.
On Jun 21, 2016 10:10 AM, "Eric Ladner" <eric.lad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:08 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+
Yes, indeed, I was referring to Russ Nelson.
On Jun 21, 2016 9:27 AM, "Russell Deffner"
wrote:
> Just making sure, as I know people have confused Russ's before:
>
> "Russ has expressed concern ...
> Russ says that he did it ...
> Russ intended..."
>
> I believe you're
intended, but I know that there is lots of nonsense
tagging that still renders prettily.
Kevin
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking at that relation, and I really don't understand what
> you're trying to accomplish - although when I ru
Retrying because a previous attempt bounced:
On 06/18/2016 12:26 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
>
> Kevin Kenny writes:
> > The rule for coalescing would be to group by facility number, so all
> > the parcels of Burnt-Rossman Hills State Forest would be one relation,
> > wh
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Kevin Kenny
<kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that I'm done with the NYC DEP Watershed Recreation Areas import,
> I've got some bandwidth to spend on this cleanup again.
I've added a sketch of the plan on the existing impor
again and allow a few days comment before
I start editing in earnest, again, just in case there are screams of
protest.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Kevin Kenny
<kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been continuing to investigate the NYS DEC Lands file, because,
> as
The import of the New York City Watershed Recreation Areas is now
complete. Thanks to all who assisted in the effort!
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On 06/04/2016 09:12 PM, Harald Kliems wrote:
All these discussions are the reason why I almost never touch the
highway=* tag and rather add surface=* or other descriptive tags to
TIGER roads. There just isn't any consensus and many good reasons for
many positions about residential, unclassified,
, and correct it
manually in the 25 places it appears in this changeset. I'm going to
defer the correction in the upload until I'm resuming uploading. so as
to avoid complicating a revert should one prove necessary.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Kevin Kenny
<kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've now begun the import for the NYC DEP Watershed Recreation Areas.
According to the plan, I've imported the units that lie in a single
township out of the forty townships that contain these areas. (Town of
Andes - the first of the list in alphabetical order). The changeset
for this activity is
ked so that a traveler can pass, so they might be
gated and still public.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote:
>
> Eric Ladner <eric.lad...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:58 AM Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wr
be a weak indication to a router to avoid the route, but the
consequences of getting it wrong don't appear to be terribly severe.
Which is a relief.
On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Richard Welty <rwe...@averillpark.net> wrote:
> On 6/3/16 5:13 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
>> Can someon
Can someone review for me the 'rural residential' problem?
I haven't done a lot of editing away of TIGER tags, although I've
wanted to - a lot of the areas where I've been mapping have had
virtually no TIGER review whatsoever and the garish overlays in JOSM
are annoying. Some of the areas I work
I hope for your sake that county lines in Missouri are better defined
than they are in upstate New York. There are some county lines in the
Adirondacks that are still shown as 'indefinite' on the state maps
because they've never been formally surveyed and monumented. In the
places where the land
On the main server with the default layer, I notice that
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/42.6437/-74.0033
has paths that abruptly disappear at a tile boundary.
When I zoom in to level 17, or out to level 14, the paths appear
again, but levels 15 and 16 don't show them.
I've tried
As I mentioned informally on-list a few days ago, I am contemplating
an import of the boundaries of the recreation areas belonging to the
New York City Department of Environmental Protection, Bureau of Water
Supply. Since I heard no cries of protest, I assembled a formal
project plan at
It finally started working, for no apparent reason. Maybe someone
fixed something.
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Kevin Kenny
<kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Still no success... I tried what you suggested: searching for "NYCDEP
> Watershed Recreation Areas import&quo
asking me to solve captchas in order to edit as well - but not
presenting them to me.
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> NYCDEP
I appear to be locked out of editing wiki.openstreetmap.org - this may
be actually the first time that I've tried, I'm not sure.
I have an account on the Wiki, I know my password, and I can
successfully bring up the interface that edits a page.
I'm trying to create a page Import/Catalogue/NYC
Logging out, flushing cookies, and logging in again brought me to
'Saint Charles Smartt Airfield' and 'False Positive' worked this time.
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Should I expect it to be operating? I tried logging in, and the first
purported aerodrome I got was the actual 'Branson West Airport'. It
was well-mapped, so I clicked 'False Positive' and 'Next' - and got
"KO: Invalid task status supplied".
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Martijn van Exel
Oh, another question. Some of the New York state land parcels have
rather complicated topology, and the previous import didn't get them
entirely right: duplicated nodes, crossing ways, nodes close to other
ways, and so on. Moreover, the upstream data are fairly arbitrarily
divided. An example is
I've been continuing to investigate the NYS DEC Lands file, because,
as Paul Norman identified, the original import is not up to current
OSM standards. I'm not going to apologize for reimporting - a reimport
will surely leave less of a mess than what is there!
It's become clear to me that for
One more try - I'm still getting used to this 'gmail alias' stuff. My
apologies if people are getting multiple copies - I'm getting
bouncemail.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Steve Friedl wrote:
> I have some of that cursory knowledge, plus I actually hiked up there and
>
On 05/24/2016 08:28 AM, Elliott Plack wrote:
Kevin,
Nice work on the proposal. Scraping geo-data from PDF is a feat.
Kudos! I've read through your proposal and having worked on a
statewide protected area import, I support this one.
protect_object=water is a novel one. Are there other uses of
On 05/23/2016 03:20 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
On 05/23/2016 05:35 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
One-line summary: I want to import the boundaries of New York City
watershed recreation areas.
I've read through your proposal and I would like to know if the
boundaries you speak of are observable
One-line summary: I want to import the boundaries of New York City
watershed recreation areas.
Side note: This project ties in closely with Paul Norman's
identification of a need to clean up the NYS DEC Lands import.
Many of the NYC DEP watershed lands share borders with the DEC lands,
and
On 05/22/2016 02:39 PM, Lars Ahlzen wrote:
On 05/21/2016 01:54 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
TopOSM looks like a good candidate for a hack session at SOTM-US. Let
me know if you are interested so I can find a room for people to meet
on July 25th.
That's not a bad idea. Sounds like there's some
On 05/19/2016 05:27 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
I was debugging some MP issues and came across the NYSDEClands
import[1], done in 2010, consisting of natural areas. They have a
number of unwanted tags[2], and a couple of other problems with their
tags
Because there's a relatively small number of
On 05/03/2016 03:09 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote:
In the USA, partly because we are such a geographically large part of
the North American continent and partly because each of our fifty
states is sovereign, I find that breaking apart very large relations
so they are across a single state at
On 03/26/2016 02:06 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Frederik Ramm writes:
> I have zero knowledge about the Adirondack[s]
I live here. Imagine a park half the size of Austria, with about 130K
people living in it, and 200K people visiting it. Give about 30K of
those people Internet access. Oh, and
On 03/16/2016 06:50 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Andy Townsend > wrote:
Another question - if not OSM, what maps do hikers in the area use
now? Something from the US Forest Service, or something else?
On 03/15/2016 12:28 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I have zero knowledge about the Adirondack; I just echoed your own
words: You said that there are "difficulties inherent in getting changes
made by local mappers working independently", and I said if that's the
case then the import is not likely to be
On 03/16/2016 06:12 PM, Andy Townsend wrote:
What I am a bit surprised about is that in the Adirondacks there's
relatively little track data in OSM. Sure, New York State is big, but
it's not _that_ big. It's roughly twice the size of Scotland and
(excluding New York City) about twice the
or network - to
support that map as a public resource out of a solo project.
I'm really at a loss where to go from here.
Kevin Kenny
On 02/28/2016 11:42 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
Oops: Just realized I originally sent this reply privately: meant to
send to the list.
On 02/27/2016 05:18 PM, Frederik
Oops: Just realized I originally sent this reply privately: meant to
send to the list.
On 02/27/2016 05:18 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
An import is great if it enables a community to go further, or forms the
basis of solid work in the future. An import is great if it is one
ingredient that makes
My apologies if this message turns out to be a duplicate. I mistakenly
sent it from a mailbox that isn't subscribed to the lists.
Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands
This message is a 'trial balloon' for a potential import of (a subset
of) the data in the series of data
On 01/23/2016 01:48 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
New York courts are free to rule any way they want, but copyright
doesn't allow you to own facts. This is well-adjudicated in higher
courts.
If you could claim a copyright on facts, you could control people's
speech, and the First Amendment does not
On 01/21/2016 04:32 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Paul Johnson > wrote:
Would it be possible to get some advice on how to best submit this
form for the outlines Oklahoma's state parks? I'm not quite sure
On 11/19/2015 07:13 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
Obviously there needs to be a sunrise for consumers to catch up, but
eventually the dinosaur needs to be killed. There's some places where
the way has a ref unique to the route, as noted on the ground, that
currently isn't easy to map thanks to the
On 11/11/2015 06:53 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I have Phil's code adapted to my own use, and going at
https://kbk.is-a-geek.net/catskills/test3.html?la=41.3476=-74.6686=11
(that particular spot shows Interstate, US Highway, NY, NJ, PA and
county
shields.)
Wow, that's a
On 11/08/2015 09:04 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
Phil's demo was an excellent proof of concept of pictorial shields
from route relations, but isn't something that can be reasonably
incorporated into a stylesheet as-is.
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/596 is the
On 11/06/2015 05:48 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
Stop rendering this key and instead render the relations
>> >
>> >Is there*any* map style that does this at the moment?
>> >
>I believe Toby had a working mapnik-based renderer doing this on osm.us at
>one point, though i'm not sure what became of
On 10/06/2015 11:47 AM, Adam Franco wrote:
For trail surveys and other GPS recording on Android I've been very
happy with Google's "My Tracks" app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.maps.mytracks=en
The original question was about iOS, about which I know
On 10/06/2015 05:57 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote:
No, but if you just want offline GPS navigation based on OSM data, get
Maps.me
Or (as I just stated in the iOS thread, where it really was off topic),
BackCountry Navigator. I've never tried handling Garmin formats with it,
but it works just fine
On 09/28/2015 01:33 AM, Tom Bloom wrote:
TIGER drew thousands of driveways that are often simply wrong. They
are tagged private and in my opinion spoil the map appearance with
little red squiggles all over the place. No other map I've found
includes them. Looking around the country, I notice
On 08/19/2015 05:29 AM, Nathan Mixter wrote:
In any discussions about land use and land cover, we should look at
what organizations have done and how they have mapped ares. For
instance, in USGS imagery in JOSM you can see how they render borders
with just a dashed line and let the land cover
On 04/01/2015 10:42 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Oh, I'd be HAPPY to argue with him. I can point to all sorts of ways
to tell that a railroad used to go through, that most people don't
know about. Certain types of fenceposts, property lines that line up
with nothing but the railbed, back yards that
On 03/23/2015 12:29 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
The nice thing about mapping a neighborhood name as a point feature is:
a) It helps people locate the neighborhood
b) it completely sidesteps the question of the exact, possibly fuzzy,
boundaries.
For 10% of the hassle you map 90% of the benefit.
On 03/17/2015 05:25 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com
mailto:a...@mapbox.com wrote:
What do people think about how to properly retag place=hamlet in
US urban areas?
My colleague Eliane rendered out a map of all hamlets in urban
On 01/15/2015 08:33 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
not sure how to tag this one. Inde Motorsports Ranch is
near Willcox, AZ, a multi configuration road course complex, plus
the straight away on the south edge of the complex doubles as
a private airstrip:
I have what may be a seriously weird question.
I've been trying to clean up my GPS tracks and enter data for the
Northville-Placid Trail in the Adirondacks. In the rare places that the
trail does appear in TIGER, the data are wildly wrong, so I'm rerouting
and retagging as I go. I'm also
On 12/20/2014 11:36 AM, Harald Kliems wrote:
highway=service;service=beaver;pedestrian=permissive (assuming that it's
nice beavers)
I didn't meet the beavers. They were busy. You know beavers. One dam
project after another. :)
More seriously: Does it really matter that the way leads over a
On 11/26/2013 12:07 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
there are USB battery supplement thingies out there, probably best
to have one or more if you're going to do this away from a car
with a lighter socket or USB power port.
I find that as long as I keep it in airplane mode and don't overuse the
screen
On 11/26/2013 01:58 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
There is some discussion going on over on the wiki page I created on
this topic:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Highway_Directions_In_The_United_States
Mostly dealing with how to prevent redundant relations where the
numbered route is a
On 10/17/2013 03:21 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
On 10/17/13 3:14 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
The direction of a US Interstate isn't necessarily the compass
direction of the road.
For example, this chunk of I-94 is facing south, but it's still
eastbound I-94.
On 07/29/2013 08:17 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
On 7/29/13 1:02 AM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Toby Murray writes:
We finally managed to get Phil's highway shield rendering up on
the OSM-US
server today! You can see the tiles here:
http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html
Looks
On 07/11/2013 01:57 PM, James Mast wrote:
Is there picture proof of how they are signing it?
Would http://www.upstatenyroads.com/submit/region-8/Reg8-2.JPG
do? That's in Monroe, New York (and not my picture).
If my word is no good, will my camera be any better?
I plan to be down that way in
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
Given that previous list consensus was for tagging of the form:
network=US:I:Future
ref=number
modifier=Future
and that only one person offered a variant opinion this time around, I'd
On 06/21/2013 08:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
The map should reflect ground reality, so unless there are hamlets in
these places, we should strive to fix them. By sharing our
experiences, we can have a better sense of how others are doing that,
and we can use that to inform our local
On 05/30/2013 11:21 PM, Richard Welty wrote:
i'm planning to delete a misleading CDP in the near future, i'm pondering
the fact that from time to time we talk about deleting all the CDPs, an
idea
which i sometimes think is the right idea.
in this case, the CDP is for Niskayuna NY
There are some anomalous cases that are of particular concern to
me.
Consider the Adirondack and Catskill Parks in New York. These
are enormous tracts of land with intensive conservation restrictions
placed on them - but many lands within the parks remain in private
hands; in fact, there are
On 01/09/2013 03:24 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
While filling in townships in the Greater Cincinnati area, I've also
been working on TIGER's rather artful interpretation of the area's
municipal boundaries, motivated by the Mapnik style's prominent
rendering of them. The boundaries are full of things
On 01/08/2013 12:17 PM, derrick nehrenberg wrote:
It seems like the majority consensus is that the US Land Ownership (or
management data) doesn't belong in the OSM database. So, I guess I won't
be adding it.
[... argument for why the USFS Managed Land cadastre belongs ...]
If anyone has any
On 12/20/2012 10:50 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Now, the flip side of your idea of collaboration is that I knew about
OSM, knew that my county was largely empty, and knew that TIGER would
be a great starting point. So I DID NOT do any editing until TIGER got
uploaded. Your theory is great, but I'm a
Just a random observation: containment in a state does not necessarily
mean that a 'state highway' is a state highway of that state.
There are a few spots in the Alleganies where NY-17 veers into
Pennsylvania to avoid a mountain or river. It's still maintained by
NYSDOT and signed with a New
On 07/22/2012 09:33 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
The mappings on the wiki are not only incomplete and inconsistent, they're
for an older NHD version and sometimes clearly wrong.
I posted a better one
(http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-July/008502.html)
earlier this month but it
On 07/23/2012 10:49 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
This unfortunately falls short. I find that you need to check the FCode
across at least 3 different parts of the country to be sure. I've found
there are regional variations in how FCodes are used.
But I'm not *doing* 3 different parts of the country.
On 07/23/2012 12:50 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
Martijn all,
I rather like the samples you gave:
boundary=national_historic_site
boundary=national_historic_park
etc.
They are simple, straightforward, and unambiguous. (The pattern could
also be extended to other boundary types.)
In the Forest
On 07/20/2012 09:27 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
I can't think of a good substitute for a motivated local mapper.
Daniel Begin said this recently on talk-ca:
You'll find that there is nothing better than an active community to
find odd features in authoritative data!
Daniel knows of what he
On 07/20/2012 11:22 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
- Focused effort to gather public domain trail data and use it to
update existing trail data in OSM through hybrid editing \ bulk upload
methodology.
Just and idea for the community's consideration: as an avid trail user
and mapper, the one type of
On 07/22/2012 10:19 AM, Fred Gifford wrote:
It seems like the biggest concern people have expressed is the idea of
doing some bulk loading of trails. I am with you on those concerns and
think that the primary rule for bulk loading should be first do no
harm. Lots of people have made great edits
A few months ago, I tried to get started on trying to resume the NHD
import in my area - and some of the places where I hike. I'm trying
to check results with both P2 and JOSM, and tripping over a lot of
things, which made me put the project back on hold for a while. (I
had some other things to
On 07/13/2012 03:00 PM, James Umbanhowar wrote:
Check out the historic tag
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historic). You could add
historic=school and maybe historic:name=School Name.
Is that accepted practice? I had rather presumed that tags not
enumerated in
On 07/12/2012 12:37 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote:
What makes railroads a special case?
Do we really want a bunch of railway=abandoned Ways running directly
through newly constructed runways, buildings, roads, parking lots,
etc?
I'm of two minds. A lot of my map projects relate to the back
On 07/11/2012 09:31 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Obviously my comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek; I am personally
convinced that the unedited TIGER landscape - i.e. a map of which
virtually nothing is correct and once you start to work somewhere you
have to touch almost every single object if you
On 07/08/2012 03:20 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas:
http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg
This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has a website:
http://www.westernvistashistoricbyway.com/
Closer to home I have also
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