Re: [OSM-talk] NEW GPX Optimizer online!

2014-05-31 Thread Laurence Penney
Nice project! Dave: It would be good to show the problem visually. If there's no visible change to the track at normalish zoom levels, then I see nothing wrong with 83% of nodes being zapped on the first click. - L On 31 May 2014, at 11:30, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi I've

Re: [OSM-talk] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?

2014-03-19 Thread Laurence Penney
It’s great to have such things mapped, but it does need care. In this field Jochen Topf coded “Multilingual Map Test” together back in 2012. You might ask him to add Finnish to the languages offered. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-November/065312.html Here’s part of

Re: [Talk-GB] Somerset Levels Flooding

2014-02-06 Thread Laurence Penney
Indeed this is surely the right approach. Many people use OSM inside products where the map data is updated rarely: all the offline map apps for mobile come to mind. Temporary states have no place in these apps, and it’s unfair on their devs to force them to work out a long-term state to offer

Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

2014-01-12 Thread Laurence Penney
Agreed. A few weeks ago I was collecting a parcel from the local delivery office. The lady on reception overheard me on the phone explaining to my mother that I was “in the post office”. When I hung up the lady, whom I’d noticed frowning, issued a stern and proud (though smiling) correction:

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual maps demo

2012-11-30 Thread Laurence Penney
Cool stuff! A while back I sketched out some ideas for something quite similar. Its v1 would have been along these lines with transparent PNGs. But v2 would have sent text labels as a JSON structure containing text plus xy or latlong positions, for rendering on the client. This way you can

Re: [Talk-GB] Channel Tunnel Routing

2012-09-07 Thread Laurence Penney
Here you go. Trolleborg, Sweden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rskuDXggqUY http://goo.gl/maps/hIc2s http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.3685lon=13.15613zoom=17layers=M - L On 8 Sep 2012, at 00:16, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: To reinforce my argument:

Re: [OSM-talk] Building Equals Yes

2011-05-17 Thread Laurence Penney
Looks wonderful! Love the halftone/moiré tiles. A couple of points: * Has the WOEID namespace hereby been officially extended? * Shouldn't you be using building=anything but no as the test? There are 238229 building=house in OSM, such as my own. - L On 17 May 2011, at 06:29, Michal Migurski

Re: [OSM-talk] Three-dimensional aerial imagery

2011-05-15 Thread Laurence Penney
For how it was done in the 1940s, UK OSMers may wish to turn on the telly NOW! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011cr8f Operation Crossbow NEXT ON: Today, 21:00 on BBC Two (except Northern Ireland (Analogue), Wales (Analogue)) SYNOPSIS: The heroic tales of World War II are legendary, but

[Talk-GB] Bristol OSM meet-up: Tuesday May 17, 6.30pm, Cafe Kino, Stokes Croft

2011-05-15 Thread Laurence Penney
Meet at Cafe Kino, 108 Stokes Croft[1], 6.30pm for a bite to eat. Decamp to the Hillgrove pub[2] for good beer from about 8pm. No agenda! Dave F, Tim François me, at least, will attend. All welcome. - Laurence [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/108841072 [2]

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-15 Thread Laurence Penney
On 15 Feb 2011, at 11:56, Tom Chance wrote: On 14 February 2011 21:15, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: One rambling question for now... As one maps an area in such detail, what kind of principle do you operate when you encounter useful information that can't yet usefully[1] go into OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] B72 is a wrap

2011-02-14 Thread Laurence Penney
Stunning work, Andy. I've recently been pointing people to Sutton Coldfield as an example of the standard to which we Bristolians should be aspiring. One rambling question for now... As one maps an area in such detail, what kind of principle do you operate when you encounter useful information

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-28 Thread Laurence Penney
Thanks for the comments, everybody. The reuse of the old node in the new way, though not of supreme elegance, seems a very nice hack and I'll use it from now on. - L ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-23 Thread Laurence Penney
I've been 'exploding' several building nodes into ways, based on splendid Bing imagery for Bristol. I'm getting concerned about data loss, the fact that any external database accumulating information on such vulnerable nodes, e.g. [1], will only with difficulty and guesswork be able to match it

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2 'sticking' in Bristol

2010-12-23 Thread Laurence Penney
I've had exactly the same problem in Bristol recently. Latest Safari on latest Mac OS. - L On 23 Dec 2010, at 13:42, Dave F. wrote: Err.. OK this is a weird one I want to check if it's just me. When editing using P2 in around Bristol my initial click with the left button to pan sticks

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-12 Thread Laurence Penney
On 12 Nov 2010, at 11:57, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/11/11 Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org: On 11 Nov 2010, at 20:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO the wiki is clear here: start_date is the date the construction of feature finished. It is not about the construction

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-11 Thread Laurence Penney
On 11 Nov 2010, at 20:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO the wiki is clear here: start_date is the date the construction of feature finished. It is not about the construction being commissioned or started. The wiki may be clear but that doesn't mean it's any good.

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
It would be good to have consistency in the start_date value. Taginfo reports 18313 usages (2814 distinct), of which these are examples of values other than simple 4-digit years[1]: 1986-08-21 29/09/2006 05/01/2005 2002-12-31 03/12/2004 2001-07-12 20101012 Nov␣2007 1.1.2012 1966␣restauriert

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
reasonable to me, in the historical sense. - L On 10 Nov 2010, at 21:40, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: It would be good to have consistency in the start_date value. Taginfo reports 18313 usages (2814 distinct), of which these are examples

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
On 10 Nov 2010, at 23:31, David Murn wrote: Just out of interest, are you 100% against OSM keeping recent history data? If a building is demolished, do you believe that deleting the way should remove any trace of that from OSM, or do you believe that OSM should retain a history? Of course

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-10 Thread Laurence Penney
On 11 Nov 2010, at 01:08, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Laurence Penney wrote: Of course the history trace is a very valuable thing about OSM. By contrast, adding things which don't exist any more - mapping the past - is, as Richard Weait says, orthogonal to OSM. Not necessarily; historic roads

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-08 Thread Laurence Penney
On 9 Nov 2010, at 02:47, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Richard Palmer I'm interested in adding historical information to the OSM database ...It's been pointed out to me that there was a similiar proposal put by Frankie Roberto some time ago; I wondered if any

[Talk-GB] Bristol meet-up: Tuesday evening, the Harbourside

2010-10-25 Thread Laurence Penney
Anyone interested in the State of Bristol is invited to join me[1] and Tim François[2] tomorrow night. We thought we'd get together to have a conflab after recently spurring each other on in mapping the city. Over the last month certain bits of Bristol have improved quite considerably: Cotham

Re: [OSM-talk] Interleaving GPS traces with video?

2010-03-29 Thread Laurence Penney
Thanks a lot. I was hoping, I guess, that there was some standard for simply whacking a GPX file inside an MPEG4 container, and maybe even a viewer for such files... Would be doable to make a system that relies on parallel files, i.e. a GPX of the same name as the video file, and a viewer that

Re: [OSM-talk] Interleaving GPS traces with video?

2010-03-29 Thread Laurence Penney
Nice. Now I want to make a web service that hosts GPX tracks that point to Youtube videos...until Youtube allows uploading them directly. - L On 29 Mar 2010, at 23:26, Shaun McDonald wrote: Here's an example of using a GPS trace to show the current location of a video (whipping it out my

Re: [OSM-talk] What do you wish you'd known?

2010-03-19 Thread Laurence Penney
How about you go first? - L On 19 Mar 2010, at 22:45, SteveC wrote: What are the thing or things you know know that you wish you'd known when you started with OpenStreetMap? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-29 Thread Laurence Penney
(e.g. a road with speed bumps is never a primary) You've obviously never been to Mexico City. - L ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-29 Thread Laurence Penney
, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote: (e.g. a road with speed bumps is never a primary) You've obviously never been to Mexico City. - L No, I haven't, but do you have a specific counter-example in mind? ___ talk

[OSM-talk] Distance to opacity (OT)

2009-09-24 Thread Laurence Penney
Was Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways? Well, let's take this intersection: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qie=UTF8layer=ccbll=-26.124795,152.574151panoid=H08s6qv1gLXcd8hGtNhvwgcbp=12,333.55,,0,2.6ll=-26.124704,152.574123spn=0,359.996175z=18 OT... ... but I couldn't help

Re: [OSM-talk] Distance to opacity (OT)

2009-09-24 Thread Laurence Penney
On 24 Sep 2009, at 22:35, Ian Dees wrote: Their streetview cars also use LIDAR to get a depthmap as they drive. They're surely not transmitting LIDAR 3D data to the Street View Flash viewer. I wonder what the minimum would be for this effect. I doubt that steps (a return to a horizontal

[OSM-talk] GPS gadgets can get you jailed and fined

2009-08-30 Thread Laurence Penney
On a plane from Paris to Boston, a guy left a GPS gadget on his seat armrest when he went to the loo. (We've all done this, haven't we?) The passengers get scared, they tell the air hostesses, the plane is diverted, the guy's arrested, he spends days in jail and is fined US $32,000!

[OSM-talk] Building bridges: Kaliningrad mapping party?

2009-07-23 Thread Laurence Penney
I was recently in Kaliningrad[1], where I had the opportunity to inspect its seven bridges[2], the conundrum surrounding which, solved by Euler, kicked off topology. Much to my dismay I found that two of the bridges - numbers 3 and 4 if you start numbering from the west - no longer exist.

Re: [OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-05 Thread Laurence Penney
How would we avoid looking at - or prove that we avoid looking at - all the street names on Google Maps, with which Street View is inextricably integrated? - L ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-05 Thread Laurence Penney
On 5 Aug 2008, at 14:28, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: dont avoid looking at them. But add names according to your own knowledge. Let's say I know reasonably well in my own mind most of the streets in the centre of the town where I live. Let's also say there's a particular street I want to

Re: [OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-05 Thread Laurence Penney
Ok, let's add that the lifespan of the contamination is that of short term memory. - L On 5 Aug 2008, at 19:14, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Laurence Penney wrote: [stuff about contaminated state of mind prohibiting data entry to OSM] It is conceivable that someone moves into a new town

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Tracing from Aerial Imagery

2008-08-04 Thread Laurence Penney
On 1 Aug 2008, at 01:14, Frederik Ramm wrote: Question 1 - is that what Ed said? And question 2 - does it make sense, legally? And question 3 - so I am allowed to trace my house, and my neighbour's, and my workplace, and the bakery I visit every morning, and my birthplace, and my

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS recommendations

2008-04-24 Thread Laurence Penney
On 24 Apr 2008, at 19:32, Kai Krueger wrote: I would be interested to hear how you would rate that solution compared to one involving a bluetooth GPS mouse and using e.g. a cell phone to do the recording and display of OSM maps. With GPS bluetooth receivers selling already at about 20 to