Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-18 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
against groups of people defined by their color skin, origin or gender. Er… Please read this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism This call is not a hate speech against white-people. It’s a call to recognise the issue and respond to it. Regards, Martin Constantino

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-05 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
then why is the picture on top of the bridge when bridge is added. Hi, Do you have an example (way number or position) so we can investigate the issue? Regards, Martin. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging the local language

2020-01-10 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
Thank you for this message! You are completely right. I meant relatively simple in the sense that there are two “obvious” languages to which a large majority of the region’s speakers minimally relate to. But you are completely right that it is already an oversimplification! I do understand

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging the local language

2020-01-10 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
I fully agree. I was only taking the example of South America because its language community is relatively simple given the size of its area ☺ But I agree that it’s probably not something that we should actually map. Sorry about that: it wasn’t clear in my message. About oceans, would you

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping outside Europe

2020-01-07 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
apart from the issue "international objects receive a tag 'name' with an English value", there are other ways in which you see how we're letting USA-UK patronize the rest. the latest example in my experience would be the 'sac_scale' tagging.  it comes from the SAC-CAS classification, of the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging the local language

2020-01-07 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
(By the way, I really appreciate the arguments that are given in this thread: we’re doing good work here! ☺) So, it seems that we can’t really make these changes to the OSM database because there are technical issues in the OSM renderrers to be solved first. In particular, it is currently

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-07 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
Baltic Sea to be the "Baltic Sea" or for South America to be "South America" - this is an example of English imperialism. This "imperialism" idea of yours is just your idea. It is not something that is widely felt. regarding imperialism, I think it’s hard to reject the reasoning that

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-06 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
Hi everyone ☺ OK, it seems that the discussions are going wild again in this new year. So let’s keep feelings aside and try to answer with arguments instead ☺ Thanks everyone who does that, you are too many to thank individually ☺ @Mario: I’ve seen a lot of people saying that we shouldn’t

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-22 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
I'd suggest using the 6 main United Nations languages for the "name=*" tag of Oceans and Continents: Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish. That would be very nice, actually. Although a bit redundant, as this information is already present in the six “name:UN:” tags. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-07 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
I personally am not a fan of using 8 different names in one name tag (though some countries that have multiple equal languages do favour that nationally).   The example here "Baltijas jūra / Baltijos jūra / Itämeri / Läänemeri / Morze Bałtyckie / Östersjön / Østersøen / Ostsee / Балтийское

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
You understand correctly. And yes, you can guess a users language from either http headers or geolocation or even a cookie. But the issue there currently is, is that there is one Mapnik map with the captions rendered in the tiles. To do something about that you would need to make a different

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
(Long post. TL;DR: I’m presenting the Esperanto community and I am looking for instances where there is no default language involved around the renderer.) IMHO that is more a "he says, she says" argument than anything valid. To me it comes more across that a small community wants to push its

[OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin ConstantinoBodin
Interesting. I sent a message two days ago with a very similar topic, but it hasn’t yet found a moderator to accept it (or reject it). I’m sending it again here, maybe it can help with the discussion. Regards, Martin. Hi, Some context first.  So there has been this changeset that triggered