[Talk-ca] what looks to be imports in North Vancouver - valid?

2016-03-19 Thread Michael Barabanov
Hi, I see a bunch of activities by user Marcott such as this (see comment in this and other changesets). http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37885113 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Marcott/history#map=13/49.3481/-122.9853 I also notice this activity breaks connections to existing

Re: [Talk-ca] Duplicate rail lines in 092H06

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Barabanov
Daniel, When is the next version expected? On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote: Bonjour Adam, It has been detected in January and the problem is not limited to 092H06. I was on the impression that I sent an email on Talk-ca about that but, as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for data sources

2010-10-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
Hi Paul, re Vancouver, please see http://weait.com/content/tragedy-edmontorcouver-open-data http://weait.com/content/unintended-restrictions re PDDL: http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/pddl/summary/ No restrictions are listed. Since they have vector data available, importing that (as

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-07 Thread Michael Barabanov
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: that is another contentious issue, they are defactor public domain IMHO. mike AFAIK, not in Russia. ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Barabanov
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I utterly, totally, fail to understand why one would want to copy OS data into OSM. If you think that OS data is good for you, just draw your map from OS data. If you would like OS data for your base map but cycleways

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Barabanov
When should we expect the next release? Anyone has an idea on how to reconcile the next release with what has been imported so far? On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote: Hi all, an update on product conversion. So far ... - The process have

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing vs Import

2010-08-08 Thread Michael Barabanov
Doesn't seem _that_ complicated. I guess it's a choice between using technology and doing manual labor (I know which one I would choose...). On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:43 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: For some time I've been looking for an easy way to import some OSM formatted data back into

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing vs Import

2010-08-08 Thread Michael Barabanov
, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't seem _that_ complicated. I guess it's a choice between using technology and doing manual labor (I know which one I would choose...). On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:43 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: For some time

Re: [Talk-ca] october 3rdish vancouver island meetup

2010-08-05 Thread Michael Barabanov
I'm guessing it's a joke. I was in Nanaimo last week, and I made a bunch of fixes there, including: - taking care of copy-pasted Geobase ways that were overlapping pre-existing non-Geobase ones - adding oneway tags - connecting roads to each other - adding streams from NHN - mapping new

Re: [Talk-ca] Converted Stats Can Boundaries files.

2010-07-27 Thread Michael Barabanov
Answering my own question.. no, doesn't seem like GeoBase contains boundaries for cities ( http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/admin/index.html). So StatsCan seems to be the only source of vector data for this? On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-ca] Converted Stats Can Boundaries files.

2010-07-23 Thread Michael Barabanov
For my area, I've asked one of the previous boundary mappers of the source of info, it was cantopo (plus I got an OK to replace the data). It should be good to ask other people who added boundaries. Overall, I think boundaries are very different from other mapping, as those are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing free and open license

2010-07-19 Thread Michael Barabanov
at 12:00 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: On 19 July 2010 13:48, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.comwrote: Would specifying that the new license must be not just open/free but specifically an SA-like license in contributor agreement solve this particular issue? ODBL looks

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-18 Thread Michael Barabanov
Would specifying that the new license must be not just open/free but specifically an SA-like license in contributor agreement solve this particular issue? ODBL looks like SA in spirit. Further changing of licenses could be a separate discussion, when/if there's a new need. Michael. On Sun, Jul

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-17 Thread Michael Barabanov
thing is resolved. 3. Of course, there's a third possibility where everyone just loves ODBL and so it's a win-win. Wouldn't that be nice. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, John Smith wrote: On 17 July 2010 13:07, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-17 Thread Michael Barabanov
1. OSMF does change the license without any regard; people who are against ODBL get pissed off and stop contributing (lost for OSM?). No data loss from the database. 2. OSMF does not do that; contributions of people who are against ODBL are deleted, people who are against ODBL stop

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-17 Thread Michael Barabanov
A poll could be something like: Would you find a it acceptable if OSMF relicensed the whole dataset to ODBL without any data loss. If nothing else, that'd give an idea of how people feel about licensing vs data itself. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] CANVEC data for Ottawa

2010-07-17 Thread Michael Barabanov
One word of caution on Canvec: at least for streams and lakes, I found that NHN has better data around the area where I live. Before copying these from Canvec, I'd advise checking NHN for the area. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Yes

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-16 Thread Michael Barabanov
Consider two cases: 1. Current license does not cover the OSM data (I think that's the OSMF view). In this case, OSMF can just change to ODBL without asking anyone. 2. Current license does cover the OSM data. Then there's no need to change. Where's the issue? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:55 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] Duplicate overlapping roads...

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
looking for. Mikey On 13/07/10 12:43 AM, Michael Barabanov wrote: Another typical post-geobase exercise is to connect to existing roads and fixing connectivity problems otherwise. This is really important for routing, e.g. in Garmin GPS. I for one spent quite a bit of time doing this for my area

Re: [Talk-ca] Tracking who's working on which CanVec tile?

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
Google sheet seems to have the most up to date info as to who intends to import/has imported what as far as Geobase. I intend to continue using it for Canvec, too. The sheet may not be complete, but some info is better than no info. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com

Re: [Talk-ca] Deleting existing roads...

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
It's easy enough to check for oneway tags in Josm (Ctrl-F). It may well be there's none in your area. If there're, those can be manually transferred to CanVec data. Another thing to watch out for would be relations representing turn restrictions (sadly, there doesn't seem to be a lot of those so

Re: [Talk-ca] Routing

2010-07-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
BTW, compared to mkgmap, osm2mp/cgpsmapper method does support searching by street intersections, but not by house numbers (yet). On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com wrote: However, the find isn't working.  If I click find - address.   There is no addresses listed.  

Re: [Talk-ca] Duplicate overlapping roads...

2010-07-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
There's some info in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase/Cleanup I would encourage running validator plugin in Josm and fixing all errors and at least the crossing ways and line ends near another one warnings. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:11 AM, G. Michael Carter mi...@carterfamily.cawrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Duplicate overlapping roads...

2010-07-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
My concern would be with 3. It is possible that someone has edited imported Geobase data after the import. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:51 AM, G. Michael Carter mi...@carterfamily.ca wrote: Sam always says I should let people know what I'm up to.   Today I'm actually going to listen... ;-) I'm

Re: [Talk-ca] Duplicate overlapping roads...

2010-07-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
have been manually adjusted. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: forgot talk-ca On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: GPS tracks aren't the only source. There's also Yahoo. There's local

Re: [OSM-talk] How is there not any creative-type (US) copyright in OSM data?

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Barabanov
Really, considering how many discussions about how to map things (just recall all those footway/cycleway discussions) have been on these lists, at least tagging seems to be a creative process right now. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:11

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Barabanov
I wonder how easy it is in fact to usefully take the OSM data without giving things back, even with the current license. Seems to me, not so easy. OSM data is not perfect. To create a value-add, a commercial entity would have to extend it. So let's say they do in some non-trivial way (e.g. not

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread Michael Barabanov
With averaging, if the random errors dominate the systematic errors, you will in fact have a better idea where the road is. IIRC, during the course of several hours ionospheric delays would cause systematic errors, but if you instead drive/ride the same road on different days, it's going to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Michael Barabanov
Also, a free-hand drawing mode (e.g. press-down left mouse button and drag) in JOSM would go a long way towards faster tracing. Clicking to add one point at a time is pretty slow. Michael. On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:18:46PM +0530, Shalabh (shalab...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Nop, thanks for your

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] The great UUID debate (Was Re: 092G area)

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
uuids are uninteresting and not useful in imported data.  Michael, below, thinks uuids are useful.  Now the rest of the conversation in context. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sam, I'm not talking about keeping CODE=2270010

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] The great UUID debate (Was Re: 092G area)

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
up because they didn't include UUIDs and therefore couldn't really update it as well or at all. My memory could be wrong about this though. -Kevin (Kevo) On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Michael Barabanov michael.baraba...@gmail.com wrote: While this can indeed happen in many cases

Re: [Talk-ca] 092G area

2009-10-11 Thread Michael Barabanov
Thanks Sam. I noticed that Canvec feature IDs didn't make it into the OSM converted files. I think the ID is one of the more useful attributes to have for the imported data. E.g. the next Canvec revision may contain actual park names in LX2270009 (names are not present now), and if so we could

Re: [Talk-ca] Converted canvec tiles available

2009-10-04 Thread Michael Barabanov
Hi Sam, Do you have 092 (e.g. 092g) tiles available? I could take a look into what could be imported from canvec there. Thanks, Michael. On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 06:02:19AM -0700, Sam Vekemans (acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I now have all of 082 and 030 tile areas converted, and

Re: [Talk-ca] Nanaimo Area Data

2009-07-14 Thread Michael Barabanov
I can do it, but why not upload it, too? This Nanaimo data is only for the city itself, not for the whole 092g04/092f01 area, corrrect? On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:34:20AM -0700, Sam Vekemans (acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi Michael Barabanov, (cc:talk-ca list.) Would you be able

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-17 Thread Michael Barabanov
(Sorry for repeating myself) it's not only splitting; larger streets and highways consist of a way for each direction in GeoBase. This is also the recommended way to map those in OSM (see for example http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Introduction, Conventions), but often they are not, at least in

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Corey, In my original message (as opposed to a snippet you quoted), I suggest that matching geobase UUID is equivalent to throwing out the data, if not position-wise, then topology-wise. We can take the easy way or a hard way, but end result will be pretty much the same. Avoiding pissing off

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Hmm, did I say more authoritative? I thought it was something like more consistent and topologically correct. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:28:56AM -0400, Gerald A (geraldabli...@gmail.com) wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.comwrote: snip 1) start

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Meanwhile, for the existing process I've added After the Import section to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature It's also mentioned it in How can I help. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoBase_Import Michael. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 02:34:29PM -0700, Michael

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
That's a possibility, though RoadMatcher is the tool for exactly this purpose. For now, after the import, in problematic places I compare the topologies by opening the resulting .osm file from geobase2osm script (not the standalone, but the whole thing) as another layer. Then data can be

Re: [OSM-talk] Bike survey kit advice?

2009-06-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
On a bike, I find that audio mapping works best. Hard to do anything more complicated while riding. Michael. On 6/12/09, Saul Albert s...@theps.net wrote: Hi osemmas, I've been doing a bit of surveying in Copenhagen: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Saul%20Albert/diary/6584 and have

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
at 07:48:21PM -0700, Michael Barabanov (michael.baraba...@gmail.com) wrote: There's an additional complication for adding UUIDs: different topologies, for e.g. dual carriageways. I'm seeing a lot of cases where OSM has a single way for a stret, but Geobase has two. So, assigning UUIDs can

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-10 Thread Michael Barabanov
Another way of incorporating the updates (without using UUIDs) would be to re-run roadmatcher. Given that we'll like will want to do it anyway (geobase will have new roads), maybe preserving UUIDs isn't a big deal after all. Another reason we'd likely use another roadmatcher run for things like

[Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, Port Moody. See on OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-123minlat=49.25maxlon=-122.5maxlat=49.5box=yes I've also captured my notes at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_processand

Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
Looks like the URL got botched. Here it is again http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/More_details_on_GeoBase_import_process This includes parts of Burnaby, North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, Port Moody. See on OSM:

Re: [Talk-ca] 092g07 imported and uploaded

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Barabanov
It is nice to see more people importing the GeoBase data. Are you going to be doing more areas in BC? Yes, starting with adjacent areas to south and east. Michael. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.cawrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, Michael Barabanov wrote