Re: [OSM-talk] Shoud OSM Help move to Stackexchange community?

2012-09-09 Thread Mike N
On 9/9/2012 11:33 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: As for authentication: I don't buy the 'That would make me sign up to a new thing and I would need to remember another password' argument and in general I strongly support integrating OSM authentication with existing authentication domains. I

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2012 Roads

2012-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/4/2012 7:10 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Hi all, You may remember my TIGER 2011 rendered tile layer that's based on TIGER shapefiles from late 2011. TIGER recently updated to include data from 2012, so I imported that data and have a new tile layer here:

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2012 Roads

2012-09-07 Thread Mike N
On 9/7/2012 9:38 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: this is the imagery url. I have just copied the 2011 setting and replaced the year and it works for me. tms:http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png That works, thanks very much! One complication was

Re: [Talk-us] Announcing Remap-a-tron

2012-09-01 Thread Mike N
On 8/31/2012 11:17 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I want to add The Remap-A-Tron to the ever growing list of tools designed to support the ongoing remapping effort. That's a fantastic application! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] The Case for Open Geo Data - resources?

2012-08-29 Thread Mike N
I map in OpenStreetMap for fun, but when it comes to talking to local governments or the media, I don't have a good idea of how to justify open data.I'm thinking in terms of being able to tell local government how open Geodata would benefit them. Are there any resources that discuss the

Re: [Talk-us] Data Layer

2012-08-22 Thread Mike N
On 8/22/2012 2:43 PM, David ``Smith'' wrote: What happened to the data overlay on the slippy map? That might make analysis of situations like this easier without having to fire up an editor… It has been temporarily move to the Edit tab - click on the down arrow or hover to be able to select

Re: [Talk-us] Update to Redacted Highways map

2012-08-21 Thread Mike N
On 8/21/2012 10:44 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I wrote about the logic to detect those ways here: That writeup sounds like it will detect the re-introduced deleted ways I'm thinking of. Looking forward to seeing it in the tool! ___ Talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - Creating GTFS data from OSM data

2012-08-18 Thread Mike N
On 8/18/2012 3:56 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: maybe the existence of an OSM-to-GTFS converter could be misunderstood by some as an invitation to upload OSM transit data to Google's database? I would go further and say that the existence of GTFS data itself would be an invitation to upload to

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI - Creating GTFS data from OSM data

2012-08-18 Thread Mike N
On 8/18/2012 8:00 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: This is openplans.org? is the opentrip planner able to use osm data directly? https://github.com/openplans/OpenTripPlanner Yes, OpenTripPlanner can use OSM data directly to route for cycle, foot, and even car traffic - although they don't optimize

[Talk-transit] FYI - Creating GTFS data from OSM data

2012-08-17 Thread Mike N
This project falls in the Why would anybody want to do that? [1] category. - The OSM bus route paths and stops have all been surveyed in my area. - There is no GTFS feed, and the transit provider isn't planning one soon (no budget). - I wanted to apply the data to OpenTripPlanner for

[OSM-talk] FYI - Creating GTFS data from OSM data

2012-08-17 Thread Mike N
This project falls in the Why would anybody want to do that? [1] category. - The OSM bus route paths and stops have all been surveyed in my area. - There is no GTFS feed, and the transit provider isn't planning one soon (no budget). - I wanted to apply the data to OpenTripPlanner for

[OSM-talk] License Change plans?

2012-08-13 Thread Mike N
Now that the redaction bot has finished, what is remaining to bless the database as ODBL? Just asking because it will be good to see some of the consumers be able to switch to pulling their feeds from the new license rather than displaying data from April 2012.

Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map

2012-08-13 Thread Mike N
On 8/13/2012 12:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well Very nice - this map and Toby's are very useful. I see that the deleted ways are purple. One thing I have noticed is that it would be nice to detect a new roadway having been

Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map

2012-08-13 Thread Mike N
On 8/13/2012 11:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote: It’s all CC BY-SA right now so you’d be okay now, but I think it’d be a problem in the future under both CC BY-SA and ODbL if you were mix the data in this way. I'd think this is not actually importing any information directly from the redacted

Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map

2012-08-04 Thread Mike N
On 8/4/2012 2:27 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to make it more so. Very nice - it makes it easy to find, check, and fix all the roads that were touched. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-30 Thread Mike N
On 7/30/2012 7:18 AM, David ``Smith'' wrote: Wasn't someone working on importing address data from TIGER? I was under the impression that may have depended on tiger:tlid tags on objects already in OSM, but wasn't sure… TIGER address data isn't nearly accurate enough to import into OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical import: Empty relations 1

2012-07-29 Thread Mike N
On 7/29/2012 5:06 AM, Paul Norman wrote: - Those with no members and no tags - Those with no members and type=multipolygon as the only tag Relations removed will be limited to those more than a day old to avoid conflicting with any open changesets. I would suggest a longer time interval,

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Thread Mike N
On 7/28/2012 3:33 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Not really sure about the zip code tags. I find the county and zip code tags to be useful at times to tell me where I'm located when doing Mapdust cleanup. I could probably come up with some other way to find myself if they weren't there, but it's

Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread Mike N
On 7/24/2012 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for longer lasting road works as well.

Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations

2012-07-24 Thread Mike N
On 7/24/2012 10:32 AM, Jo wrote: Well, to be honest, I had hoped that everybody who is doing PT would have been screaming for this by now. It's a message on talk-fr by somebody who wants to start doing this for cycle route relations that triggered me into proposing it yet again. I have proposed

[OSM-talk] FYI - Automated edit: footway - sidewalk

2012-07-23 Thread Mike N
FYI, please provide any feedback to the original author on the forum. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17526 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] National Map Corps Revived - And Using the OSM Stack

2012-07-23 Thread Mike N
On 7/23/2012 1:58 PM, Eric Wolf wrote: Interestingly, in Phase 2 there were some structures that got changed back to the initial state from GNIS. After a little digging, it was noted that the first volunteer fixed incorrect information from the GNIS import but then the second volunteer (during

Re: [Talk-us] National Park boundaries

2012-07-22 Thread Mike N
On 7/22/2012 7:39 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: But it turns out the NPS has a boundary shapefile for all National Parks, Historic Sites, Rivers, Parkways, Lakeshores and more than a dozen other categories[4]. Is this something to consider for importing? I am in favor of importing park

Re: [Talk-us] Major Vandalism in the Charlotte, NC

2012-07-21 Thread Mike N
On 7/21/2012 8:48 AM, James Mast wrote: Just thought I would give you a heads up guys, but a new guy to the project has been doing some major damage to the Downtown Charlotte, NC area putting in a ton of fictional stuff Thanks for the heads up - otherwise I would have probably been checking

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-21 Thread Mike N
On 7/21/2012 5:51 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: Would it work to do an import of TIGER 2011 data for most of the affected area? The TIGER 2011 data is much improved over the data from the original TIGER import that took place several years ago, and it would be a great way to get both the roads and

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-20 Thread Mike N
On 7/19/2012 4:22 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Another thing I find is a lot of leftover stray nodes without any tags. I select them in JOSM with type:node tags:0 -child and delete them in one fell swoop. In many cases, I find it easier to retrieve and plop the TIGER road back in as a

Re: [Talk-us] OSM is pretty

2012-07-20 Thread Mike N
On 7/20/2012 4:46 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I was just randomly browsing the map and happened upon the Epcot center: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.373lon=-81.5483zoom=17layers=M That's one pretty looking map! Agreed! I made use of it just a few weeks ago.

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Mike N
On 7/19/2012 1:42 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Now that we're cleaning up after the license bot, what problems are people seeing? The biggest problem I have run into so far is the same 'foldback' problem Kai saw. It's quite confusing when both sides of a dual carriageway are folded back and

[OSM-talk] OT - Unusual Bing imagery

2012-07-18 Thread Mike N
I spotted this today as I was entering survey information: http://greenvilleopenmap.info/Airplane.jpg I didn't realize that the Bing planes flew so high. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER fixup and mapping more

2012-07-12 Thread Mike N
On 7/12/2012 11:43 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I was wondering if something likehttp://frontdoor.cloudapp.net/ might be a fun solution. Present some aerial imagery, the OSM data, and say is this a track or a road?. Kind of like HotOrNot for the OSM generation. (For extra efficiency, have a

Re: [Talk-us] railway=abandoned and mapping things that are not there any more?

2012-07-12 Thread Mike N
On 7/12/2012 12:37 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote: It seems that there are a handful of railroad enthusiast users that are systematically adding current and former railways into OSM, and in some cases re-adding railways that I have removed. I have been operating under the assumption that if a physical

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Mike N
On 7/10/2012 5:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Oh, and South Carolina. Not going to touch that. Don't Tread on Us - LOL. The state capital region of Columbia, South Carolina will be a prime test of the Do empty areas attract contributors? theory for some time to come.

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-11 Thread Mike N
On 7/11/2012 8:38 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 07/11/12 13:59, Mike N wrote: The state capital region of Columbia, South Carolina will be a prime test of the Do empty areas attract contributors? theory for some time to come. Why, is someone planning to remove the TIGER import

[Talk-us] US Road route relation conventions

2012-07-09 Thread Mike N
As part of the review and cleanup after the redaction bot, I am planning to go through and review state routes and create relations for them. There's been much good work in developing the Shields rendering scheme, and I would like to prepare when / if it gets rolled out in the US. Is

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
And a big thanks to the Bing Team for getting this imagery update out. It's a huge help in keeping maps current! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 4:06 PM, hbogner wrote: Try to delete the cache :D I posted this to talk-US - I have 2 instances of JOSM - one 'works', and the other always shows the 'old imagery'. I removed all cached images from the JOSM settings folder, and the shared %TEMP%\JmapViewer_UserName cache

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 5:58 PM, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be cached.

Re: [Talk-us] Bing Imagery link changed for JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 5:22 AM, James Mast wrote: I've also noticed this in the happening in St. Louis along I-64. JOSM is still loading the old imagery, while Potlatch 2 is getting the newer imagery. From a similar thread on talk... right-click on the editing area and select 'Flush tile cache'.

Re: [Talk-us] Bing Imagery link changed for JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 12:13 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Perhaps you're zoomed in too far. PL2 also gives the old imagery at zoom 20: It's also possible that they're rolling out the new stuff in stages to different servers behind the load sharing server. So that might be why some solutions work

Re: [Talk-us] Bing Imagery link changed for JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 2:09 PM, Mike N wrote: It's also possible that they're rolling out the new stuff in stages to different servers behind the load sharing server. OK, I'm officially stumped. I have 2 instances of JOSM - one 'works', and the other always shows the 'old imagery'. I removed all

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-13 Thread Mike N
On 6/13/2012 5:58 PM, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be cached.

Re: [Talk-us] Import discussions

2012-06-11 Thread Mike N
On 6/11/2012 10:54 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: Personally, I wish that all those that want to import building outlines would first think about the existing street network (this, after all, being OpenSTREETMap). So much of the US is still unedited TIGER 2005 data - mis-aligned, poorly connected,

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-07 Thread Mike N
On 6/6/2012 4:12 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Without some object IDs it is hard to say exactly what blars did. If you have some specific examples, select them in JOSM and hit CTRL-SHIFT-I to open a browser window with a link you can send to the list. A lot of what I saw in LA looked like legitimate

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of buildings in Chicago

2012-05-29 Thread Mike N
On 5/29/2012 1:09 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: I used to agree with you, but in terms of minimum labor, updates are best performed by retaining the original upload data, then doing a conflation between the original data and a later update. That will highlight only changes from the original source,

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of buildings in Chicago

2012-05-28 Thread Mike N
On 5/27/2012 2:53 PM, Alan wrote: As I discussed with you, I am no longer uploading data with the tag and will go back to remove the tag from the existing data. I object. An ID tag is highly useful for future reconciliation and/or synchronization later. I used to agree with you, but in

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER road expansion code

2012-05-12 Thread Mike N
On 5/12/2012 5:54 PM, Anthony wrote: If so, this is good, but it does mean that road names are going to get out of sync, if, for instance, tiger:name_base was removed from some of the ways and not removed from others. This will complicate later fixes/enhancements. This also happens long

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-11 Thread Mike N
On 5/11/2012 1:36 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Okay, so basically we're ignoring the on-the-ground rule in order to map for the renderer. Exactly :) Why that is ok, I don't know :( Mapping for the renderer has never been wrong or discouraged. Tagging incorrectly for the renderer is another

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 9:48 PM, Anthony wrote: You seem to be assuming all the changes are positive. I didn't take it that way - it was just a quick test for orders of magnitude. An actual script takes more review. What happened to the on the ground rule, anyway? That already doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 10:19 PM, Anthony wrote: What I'm questioning is why it doesn't apply. If the people call it Whatever Ave, shouldn't the data read Whatever Ave? Most of the US wouldn't call it 'Whatever Ave'; when spoken, it would be 'Avenue'. Having it expanded makes programs with spoken

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-10 Thread Mike N
On 5/10/2012 10:40 PM, Anthony wrote: Depends on what street you're talking about. I've certainly lived in places where the vast majority of the locals called it Whatever Ave, and not Whatever Avenue. Most of the US...wouldn't talk about the street at all. But you wouldn't be confused if

Re: [OSM-talk] Celebrating Neskie

2012-05-08 Thread Mike N
On 5/8/2012 6:23 AM, Richard Weait wrote: He was active in several communities, with an interest in Free Software / Open Source, OpenStreetMap The follow-on question is: since he didn't have a chance to accept or reject the CT, do we honor his contribution by unleashing the ODBL deletion

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-05 Thread Mike N
On 5/5/2012 1:23 AM, Gregory Arenius wrote: The OSM model isn't everything in a separate layer, it is everything altogether. What makes plots unique in this regard? Why do we want them separate? If you compare land use to TIGER - the base road network from TIGER is continually

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-01 Thread Mike N
On 5/1/2012 12:59 PM, Anthony wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying. Automatically expanding abbreviations is a terrible idea. If an abbreviation is unambiguous, then it can be expanded during the preprocessing step. If, on the other hand, it is ambiguous, then you are turning ambiguous data

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-01 Thread Mike N
On 5/1/2012 1:21 PM, Anthony wrote: The preprocessing step between downloading the data from OSM and doing something with it. That assumes that the TIGER tags will always be present to assist with proper automatic expansion. And I'd rather have the US data in line with the world-wide

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-04-30 Thread Mike N
On 4/30/2012 10:24 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I believe It was stopped after some complaints about it not handling some situations correctly. But I would probably be in favor of trying to complete it. I would agree - there's no point in asserting that we have to spend time manually expanding

Re: [OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-19 Thread Mike N
On 4/19/2012 3:50 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Mike Nnice...@att.net wrote: ... But one newbie deleted about 300 streets, seemingly for a wedding-related event map :-( ... I couldn't help laughing, that's actually pretty funny. Did you contact the

[OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-18 Thread Mike N
In this area, there's been a surprising number of new contributors in the last 2 months: about 5 altogether. This is most likely from publicity received from the news stories surrounding the #switch2osm cases. In one case, they had actually registered a year ago, but made no edits until

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: Empty Relations

2012-04-13 Thread Mike N
On 4/13/2012 5:12 AM, Paul Norman wrote: I will filter out ones touched in the last 24 hours to avoid conflicting with anyone. Could this be extended to 30 days, or at least a week? I remember creating a set from a survey on one weekend, and finishing it the following weekend. I think

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-13 Thread Mike N
On 4/12/2012 11:13 PM, James Mast wrote: It seems that they are just starting a new way and connecting each old node to the new way without at least moving the old node, which means if Lar created the node and nobody has moved it since, it still will get deleted and mess up the highway

Re: [Talk-us] tagging cul-de-sacs

2012-04-10 Thread Mike N
On 4/10/2012 10:17 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: A roundabout (or mini_roundabout) implies to me (although it is not defined on the wiki) that there is more than one entry / exit road. So intuitively I'd say that is not an appropriate tag. I agree, this is not a roundabout. I use

Re: [Talk-us] NHD import

2012-04-09 Thread Mike N
On 4/9/2012 1:39 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Here's some NHD 'data': Perhaps rice fields, based on a Google Street View, but I can't see for sure. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Mike N
On 4/6/2012 10:24 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: Anyone else try to fix bugs off there? I have tried as I want to improve OSM. I am increasingly finding it a waste of time, too many bugs are labelled 'other' and just don't have enough info to work out what the problem is. In these cases I usually

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapdust

2012-04-06 Thread Mike N
On 4/6/2012 11:13 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: Have spotted one problem, not got a clue if its what was reported, where the route was going onto a roundabout, rather than using the bypass lane. Have changed the bypass to 'Trunk link' from 'Primary link' to see if that will fix it. Are there any

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Shield Rendering

2012-04-02 Thread Mike N
On 4/2/2012 8:25 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: Richard Weait and I have been working on a rendering that uses route relations to make individual shields that reflect what each state uses. Superb! This will greatly assist OSM to make inroads in the US - for those who glance at the map, see the

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Shield Rendering

2012-04-02 Thread Mike N
On 4/2/2012 8:25 AM, Phil! Gold wrote: please let me know what you think! Looks great - does the US OSMF have server(s) that can host this style yet? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] It has begun

2012-04-01 Thread Mike N
On 4/1/2012 3:01 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I attempted contact with 168 users. 105 of them accepted the new terms. That's much higher than I would have expected. My stats: Contact about terms via OSM: 8 Response: 0Obviously I used the wrong wording or was unlucky. But I did tailor

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-04-01 Thread Mike N
On 4/1/2012 4:42 AM, James Mast wrote: So, who else here was at least somewhat successful in their objective in data cleanup (I still think this whole thing was kinda stupid, as I'd rather been fixing/adding new stuff instead of redoing stuff that others added)? I was somewhat successful in

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-04-01 Thread Mike N
On 4/1/2012 7:51 AM, the Old Topo Depot wrote: I cleaned up most of I95, I20 and I26 in SC, I saw those come through - thanks for fixing them! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-04-01 Thread Mike N
On 4/1/2012 8:07 AM, James Mast wrote: Hopefully I can finish the I-81 rebuild off-line before the database is live so it can be one of the first uploads. And a small caution - if the ODBL removal bot happens to hit it before your upload, there will be version conflicts. I have no idea on

Re: [Talk-us] Update on remapping

2012-03-28 Thread Mike N
On 3/28/2012 2:55 AM, Toby Murray wrote: I've seen a little work being done on interstates but so far it's been a drop in the bucket. My logic is that data consumers will shut off their feed, so we won't have instant chaos on Mapquest.com for example. After the license change, any

[Talk-us] OSM Moment

2012-03-28 Thread Mike N
There haven't been many 'OSM Moments' for me; you know, out of the blue, you see one of your major map works in use in a completely unexpected context. I actually had 2 of those moments in 2012 - where 2 unrelated planning documents featured OSM maps which were much more detailed and up to

Re: [Talk-us] New local groups

2012-03-26 Thread Mike N
On 3/26/2012 10:52 AM, Richard Weait wrote: What incentive would it take to push you over the edge to make you actually do it? I tend to be a hands-on person, and ultimately the motivation would be that there is an immensely useful data consumer. It doesn't help that the first project I

Re: [Talk-us] Problem user

2012-03-24 Thread Mike N
On 3/24/2012 9:06 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I work in (San Antonio and California). Would we end up deleting

Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Thread Mike N
On 3/23/2012 8:36 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be running a script to automatically replace street name abbreviations with the full word. They don't look like mass automated edits to me - these are smaller quantities of changes made via

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Uploads to City of Salisbury, MD

2012-03-22 Thread Mike N
On 3/22/2012 9:12 AM, Nick Chamberlain wrote: I was getting a proxy error and the uploads were timing out when I attempted to upload the entire batch. This is a common problem with uploading large changesets with JOSM, where upload failures result in a partial upload. We're hesitant to put

Re: [Talk-us] suburban superblocks that nobody wants to survey

2012-03-15 Thread Mike N
On 3/15/2012 8:52 AM, Hillsman, Edward wrote: In the interest of figuring out how to attract more people to participate in OSM, I'd like to see some more discussion of this. Is it generally true that people who work on OSM don't like to map subdivisions? And, if so, why? Because these are

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about Incentives to contribute to OSM

2012-03-14 Thread Mike N
On 3/14/2012 11:10 AM, Richard Weait wrote: You might not be sick of nonsense survey authors requesting our personal information to study our project. You might even be tempted to reply and to fill in their survey. I noticed that the first survey redirected 40% of the users to something

Re: [Talk-us] More TIGER importing

2012-03-14 Thread Mike N
On 3/14/2012 6:40 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: Hey, is there some sort of tutorial for a beginner (me) to import TIGER 2011 data for a really small town (Wheatland, CA)? I'm going to be doing a bus route there, but half the streets on it aren't even in OSM. Welcome to OpenStreetMap! The good

Re: [Talk-us] More TIGER importing

2012-03-14 Thread Mike N
On 3/14/2012 11:44 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: Yikes, I already uploaded it! :X The changeset is here[1]. Please revert if necessary. I'll be asleep the rest of the day, and I'll be back at around 7 PM Central. I'd say you did a good job - everything looks to be connected. Per latest

Re: [Talk-us] More TIGER importing

2012-03-14 Thread Mike N
On 3/14/2012 11:44 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: I personally believe, and I think consensus is growing, that none of the tiger:* tags should be imported (I delete all of them after working on a way). Ref tags should be populated with the route number, such as SR 20, and oneway tags seem to be

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping from TIGER 2011

2012-03-12 Thread Mike N
On 3/11/2012 10:28 PM, Josh Doe wrote: Do you find the new subdivisions manually as well? Yes, I just used the overlay method as outlined on the Wiki where new roads are highlighted. The only trick was that deleted roads also would show up as new roads, and recognizing that someone had

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping from TIGER 2011

2012-03-11 Thread Mike N
On 3/11/2012 6:48 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I just wrote up a quick blog post about it and would welcome any comments on the subject. Last year I did all the new subdivisions in my whole county using TIGER 2010 against the original import. There were approximately 120 new subdivisions to

Re: [Talk-us] The vandalism has begun

2012-03-11 Thread Mike N
I looked at the .CA lists and couldn't tell if this was due to removing data that isn't even CC-SA compliant, or making it easier to get a jump start on remapping. If the purpose is to make remapping easier, I think it is disrespectful of data consumers. Data consumers are aware of the 1

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-07 Thread Mike N
On 3/7/2012 7:50 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: ...and the consensus is that the data is from some time late March/early April 2010. Yes, really. With an update rate of at least 2 years, I don't expect they'll see a problem with temporary license data deletion.

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles

2012-02-17 Thread Mike N
On 2/17/2012 10:05 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: On the topic of TIGER layers: Harry Wood made an interesting suggestion in the comments section of my blog post on road analysis (see other post): wouldn't it be interesting to crowdsource particularly problematic (in terms of alignment) areas of

Re: [Talk-us] Analysis of US road network and TIGER status

2012-02-16 Thread Mike N
On 2/16/2012 6:38 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi, I did an state-by-state and county-by-county analysis of the road network in the US. I focused particularly on TIGER and user-related metrics. Results (with maps of course) are here:

Re: [Talk-us] Finding untagged dead-ends

2012-02-15 Thread Mike N
On 2/15/2012 12:41 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: (nodes contained in only one highway way) ... and first or last node of the way? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-07 Thread Mike N
On 2/7/2012 2:19 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Any chance we could get on the front page of slashdot with a relicensing post from some official blog? The google-vandalising-osm story got there somehow... Using a slant of searching for missing / long-lost contributors and losing their work would

Re: [OSM-talk] Remapping

2012-02-07 Thread Mike N
On 2/7/2012 7:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: One other question. Sunny added streets using TIGER data. (Imported?) If I replace the data, all the TIGER data goes away. Is that something I should worry about? Don't worry about losing the TIGER reference tags - just copy the street name and

Re: [Talk-us] Remapping tips

2012-02-07 Thread Mike N
On 2/6/2012 11:47 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: andrzej wrote my personal appeal is that you spend the time between now and April 1 mapping one of the so many blank spots in OSM I totally disagree, There are real people out there actually using OSM Data for car navigation, cycle navigation etc..

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-06 Thread Mike N
On 2/6/2012 11:02 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Just yesterday I managed to track down a phone number for the biggest remaining non-decider in Kansas. I gave him a call, had a pleasant conversation and then he logged in and agreed a few minutes after we hung up. I often wonder - do these guys never

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-02-05 Thread Mike N
On 1/14/2012 1:20 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: As you can see, the situation for highways / interstates is particularly bad in SC / GA. I'd say that is a priority if you want to help out. I've not had any reply back from my 'Decliner'-contact in SC about a public domain option. At this

Re: [OSM-talk] switch2osm.org

2012-01-26 Thread Mike N
On 1/25/2012 6:13 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Lots of you will have seen the interest recently in switching from proprietary mapping providers to OpenStreetMap - blog postings by Nestoria and StreetEasy, Wired's article, and so on. We started a Twitter hashtag, #switch2osm, and it's rather

Re: [Talk-us] Finding new roads

2012-01-22 Thread Mike N
On 1/22/2012 4:06 PM, Bryce2 Nesbitt wrote: And here is where the rusty old TIGER data still has something to offer OSM: address data. A very common map use case is show me a map around this address. Bringing in that data from TIGER might not bring any more /mappers/, but it could bring a lot

Re: [Talk-us] name expansion bot (Re: Imports information on the wiki)

2012-01-15 Thread Mike N
On 1/15/2012 8:01 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: and the script ignored the TIGER subtags and improperly expanded it to West Avenue East I'm not sure what you mean about ignoring the TIGER subtags, but this street has tiger:name_direction_suffix = E, which the script used to expand the name.

Re: [Talk-us] name expansion bot (Re: Imports information on the wiki)

2012-01-15 Thread Mike N
On 1/15/2012 8:28 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Actually the script also expanded the W to West. But my point is that it is a TIGER entry error, and any future script needs to take into account that these exist and people may have already fixed them to the correct names. Agreed- if we're

Re: [Talk-us] name expansion bot (Re: Imports information on the wiki)

2012-01-15 Thread Mike N
On 1/15/2012 12:47 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Perhaps checking if either the name= tag or the direction_suffix tag has ever been edited by a human would be a good measure. The ways which have been edited might need to be manually reviewed if they contain an unexpanded N, E, W or S. I

Re: [Talk-us] What is a dual carriageway?

2012-01-15 Thread Mike N
On 1/15/2012 12:45 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I only map two separate ways when there's a median you can't cross, so the two directions are physically separate. By that rationale, it should be one way feature. I am curious if other mappers use the same convention. I agree with that method.

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-14 Thread Mike N
On 1/14/2012 1:20 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: As you can see, the situation for highways / interstates is particularly bad in SC / GA. I'm still checking the PD option for most of one of the SC decliner's work - I should hear back this weekend.

Re: [Talk-us] Getting ready for the license change

2012-01-13 Thread Mike N
On 1/13/2012 10:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: * Remap data that remains at risk of being removed, following the guidelines on the wiki (see links below). Assuming that the April 1 delete is a smart delete, is it better to wait until afterward? I'm thinking of this - 1 TIGER - agreer 2

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