Re: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset

2018-11-15 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Yay! -Original Message- From: Andrew Harvey Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2018 9:26 PM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: [talk-au] TMR Road Centerlines dataset I just got the permission waiver for the QLD Transport and Main Roads surveyed centerline dataset,

[talk-au] A question about the license that applies to a product from OSM data

2017-08-13 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Hello all, I have a question about applying the ODbL. I can take this to the legal list, but I am hoping there is a quick and easy answer. Some contractors working for my organisation are building a network model for Queensland using OSM data. The model is for routing, and has value-added

Re: [talk-au] Ozie windmills

2017-06-13 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
>Navel glazing ? >Are not windmills bores? Simply powered by the wind. Some windmills might actually be mills? Which means they mill grain? (grind into flour) Cheers, Nick Lawrence *** WARNING: This email (including any

[talk-au] Making the case for ODbL licensing of state government open data

2017-04-27 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Hello Australia OSM, I am a spatial science officer in Qld Transport and Main Roads, involved in the provision of Open Data for public consumption. Our data is generally released under a CC-BY license, but I have an opportunity to make a case for the ODbL to be a license option. Currently data

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-23 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
3 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites On 24-Apr-17 09:47 AM, Nicholas G Lawrence wrote: > > There are also Driver Reviver spots which may also be useful to capture? > > Cheers, > Nick Lawrence > > I see 'Driver Revive

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-23 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Following on, I should point out that Qld TMR's view of Rest Areas is that they are a safety feature of the roads, specifically to combat fatigue, which makes them different to camp sites. Cheers, Nick Lawrence -Original Message- From: Nicholas G Lawrence [mailto:nicholas.g.lawre

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-23 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Quoting from the "Guide to Queensland Roads" by Queensland Department of Transport and Main Roads. "Motorist Rest Areas - Rest areas are there for you to stop and rest, making your trip safer and more enjoyable. - Rest areas are not long-term camping sites. However motorists are able to take

Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse

2015-06-29 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
-Original Message- From: Florian Lohoff [mailto:f...@zz.de] Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2015 3:52 AM To: Lester Caine Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Layers and landuse On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:49:21AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 29/06/15 10:59, Florian Lohoff wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Howto tag a prominent dead tree?

2014-10-21 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Subject: [OSM-talk] Howto tag a prominent dead tree? Hi, this must have come up before... any ideas? What does prominent mean? If the dead tree has some cultural or historical significance, then it could be placed in the same category as, for example, a statue or other form of art for public

[talk-au] street addressing city or suburb?

2014-10-13 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Hi all, What is the convention for tagging an address for a residential property in a suburb (Coorparoo) in a city (Brisbane)? addr:city = Brisbane Or addr:city = Coorparoo Or addr:suburb = Coorparoo Which is best for navigation and routing? Cheers Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-27 Thread Nicholas G Lawrence
Forgetting the tagging for a moment, is it not irresponsible to be mapping and thus being seen as encouraging such activities? Every year when there is hot weather there are warnings not to swim in lakes and rivers, and these are inevitably followed by reports in the media of a tragic loss of

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-25 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
For example if a farm field was mapped this way then any barrier for it, such as hedge, gate etc, would appear to be on the road as well. So, for a polygon, the boundary can be tagged for a barrier that completely encircles the polygon? Is this all that common? In my experience the barrier

Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
I did not see this linked on this list, so here you go: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/googles-plan-for-global- domination-dont-ask-why-ask-where.html?_r=0 page 6 of 8, second paragraph The O.S.M. map data is free now - but using it comes with a catch. Any improvement, or any

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers

2013-11-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on osm.org without the admin boundaries. While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core role ? As

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin borders/separate database

2013-11-10 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
If we agree that borders are a problem, then what is the best solution? Do you mean borders are a problem in general, or are there specific problems related to specific borders like those mentioned in this thread? I'd argue that the GIS community has already decided that layers

[OSM-talk] Converting OSM roads to GIS dataset (Queensland, Australia)

2013-09-02 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello all, I'm trying to convert the Queensland, Australia OSM roads into a GIS format (esri shape or mapinfo) using GDAL 1.10 I downloaded a .osm.pbf file for australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia.html I'm only really after the geometry that represents roads.

[talk-au] Converting OSM roads to GIS dataset (Queensland, Australia)

2013-09-02 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello all, I'm trying to convert the Queensland, Australia OSM roads into a GIS format (esri shape or mapinfo) using GDAL 1.10 I downloaded a .osm.pbf file for australia from http://download.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia.html I'm only really after the geometry that represents roads.

Re: [OSM-talk] Double-clicking on OSM map does not centre the map

2013-07-22 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On 2013-07-22 06:33, John Firebaugh wrote: The rationale for making the change in Leaflet is to make it so that you can zoom in several levels on a given point without needing to reposition your cursor at each zoom level. For that reason, I prefer the new behavior. Zooming in by using

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle Inner Bypass - Motorway or not ?

2013-05-29 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Any thoughts on whether the completed sections of the Newcastle Inner City Bypass (now being referred to by the RMS as A37 - Newcastle Outer Ring Road) should be classified as type Motorway …? If they're calling it A37 then they're not calling it a motorway. Could you just ask the

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

2012-12-02 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Abandoned makes it sounds like there are tracks in place for the length of the line, just no trains running on it. Is ruined a tag? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged,

Re: [OSM-talk] What to call OSM data?

2012-11-26 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
So for example crowdsourced infromation, volunteered geographic information, non-authoritative data, or something else? Crowdsourced non-authoritative geographic data ? I'm personally not sure I agree with the non-authoritative part. Instead of non-authoritative I prefer the term

[OSM-talk] Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL?

2012-11-22 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Trying to find this answer on the wiki, but I can't. Is CC0 data compatible with ODBL? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Design Competency Engineering Technology Branch| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex |

[OSM-talk] Tagging of building footprints

2012-11-21 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
I check out my place of work in openstreetmap. I am a bit confused that the building (a tower of offices) is represented twice. There is a large building footprint over the entire grounds that is tagged Offices and inside this is a smaller building footprint tagged Building. Now, the large

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of building footprints

2012-11-21 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
I check out my place of work in openstreetmap. I am a bit confused that the building (a tower of offices) is represented twice. There is a large building footprint over the entire grounds that is tagged Offices and inside this is a smaller building footprint tagged Building.

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 65, Issue 24

2012-11-21 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hi all,   Mike from TMR got in touch with me this morning reversing his statement about using tourist route information on local council maps, see below. I haven't used them to add anything to OSM anyway. Hi Wil, Unfortunately your posting on Open Street Map has caused me some grief!

Re: [talk-au] Aboriginal sacred sites

2012-08-27 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
It is an interesting issue. Military bases and nuclear facilities are often fully mapped in OSM, but often the location of many Aboriginal carvings and sensitive areas etc, are not. It is my understanding that for some tribes even the location of sacred sites is only available to

[OSM-talk] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand

2012-07-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello all, I would like to generate a map showing the impact of the license change on Australia and New Zealand. Any advice on how to generate such a map? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of

[OSM-talk] OSM Inspector is not working?

2012-07-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Is OSM Inspector working? There appears to a Layer problem error? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill

[talk-au] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand

2012-07-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello all, I would like to generate a map showing the impact of the license change on Australia and New Zealand. Any advice on how to generate such a map? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of

[talk-au] OSM Inspector is not working?

2012-07-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Is OSM Inspector working? There appears to a Layer problem error? Kind regards, Nick Lawrence Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets Design Engineering Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill

Re: [talk-au] map of impact of licence change on Australia and New Zealand

2012-07-11 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
It really depends on what you want to visualize. None of the available tools give an 100% exact picture (simply because that would have required setting up a clone of the main DB and essentially carrying out the redaction on it). The shape files from Frederiks OSMI layer are available,

Re: [OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-19 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
  But one newbie deleted about 300 streets, seemingly for a wedding-related event map :-( ... I couldn't help laughing, that's actually pretty funny. Did you contact the user?  Yes, I sent a message, but got no reply.  Perhaps they were too embarrassed, so the revert

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-12 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Possibility of considering undecided as accepted (if they don't respond) Completely not going to happen. Anyone suggesting that needs to read some law. You absolutely cannot do that [1]. I accepted the license, and also ticked the box that said I was happy with my contributions to be

[OSM-talk] problem with OSMAND UI

2011-11-27 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hi, I've got a problem with the OSMAND UI on my HTC Legend. When I do a Search for a location, defined by a Lat/Long where I want to type in the co-ordinates, the number keypad completely obscures the entry fields for Lat and Long, so I can't even see what I'm typing. This prevents me from

[OSM-talk] raw osm data to GML

2011-06-27 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hi, I'm looking at the wiki about converting osm raw data to GML format (for processing further into either shapefile or mapinfo table), and the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GML says that the software may be incompatible with API v0.6 from 2009? Is this still a problem? Has

[OSM-talk] Satellite Sentinel Project Uses Commercial Satellite Imagery to Monitor Sudanese Conflict

2011-02-14 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
I just got my edition of GIS Weekly Review, which highlights a mapping project using satellite imagery in southern Sudan, which is in the process of seccession. Is this anything for OSM to look at? There appears to be a huminitarian involvement in the effort of collecting imagery. Cheers, nick

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage

2011-02-10 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Anthony wrote: After admitting to tracing from Google imagery, you refused to tell which objects were involved. Oh my God. How many times do I have to say this? NO OBJECTS WEREINVOLVED. I don't understand how you can both admit tracing from Google imagery and at the same time

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage

2011-02-10 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:54 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Anthony, when you traced from google imagery, what went into OSM? Nothing. So why did you say that you had traced from google imagery in the first place? (if nothing went into OSM) nick

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
* Anthony goes on to have in his possession simultaneously tea and no tea, thereby solving one of the stickier puzzle in the Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy text adventure game[1]. Go Anthony! Was there ever a sequel to that text adventure? It kind of ended on a cliff-hanger ... nick

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On 11 February 2011 02:05, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Was there ever a sequel to that text adventure? It kind of ended on a cliff-hanger ... Well there was a crucial bit where the protagonist left the planet... Last bit I remember, the protagonist left the spaceship to

Re: [OSM-talk] New tool in Potlatch 2 for areas that share a way

2011-02-02 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:13 PM, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Risk assessment and hazards are also relevant. The grassy area next to a steel mill might not be plain old grass, who knows what has been stored there and what kind of hazards, from chemicals to rusty nails are

Re: [OSM-talk] New tool in Potlatch 2 for areas that share a way

2011-02-01 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
For some purposes the 'landuse=industrial' information will be more important, for other 'surface=grass'. These are different kinds of information. Risk assessment and hazards are also relevant. The grassy area next to a steel mill might not be plain old grass, who knows what has been

[OSM-talk] Is there an Android OS app for osm?

2011-01-03 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Is there an Android OS app for osm? nick *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are

Re: [talk-au] cc-by not compatible with ODBL ?

2010-07-07 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Bureaucrats have their own agendas and are most unlikely to want to share property GIS knowledge is power, undiluted and building up your own GIS threatens many systems. I'm a bureaucrat, and whilst I can't speak for all bureaucrats, I'm keen to release data under a CC license simply to

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-05-31 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Another article on the same topic, http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 Kind Regards, Nicholas Lawrence Geographic Information Systems Coordinator | Geospatial Technologies Engineering Technology / Design, Environment

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] US to spend $8bn upgrading GPS constellation

2010-05-26 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
The United States is about to give the now nearly ubiquitous Global Positioning System an $8 billion overhaul. The improvements, which involve replacing each of the 24 aging GPS satellites, are estimated to take over a decade to complete, and will see the triangulation margin of error

[talk-au] Presentation in Brisbane

2010-03-21 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello Australian OSM, The Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute and the Australian Computer Society have a joint group, the Spatial Information Technology Special Interest Group (SITSIG) which hosts a small event every few months in Brisbane. We were hoping to do a presentation on Open

Re: [talk-au] Presentation in Brisbane

2010-03-21 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
On 22 March 2010 14:54, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Is there anyone in Brisbane that might be interested in standing up and giving a presentation? When and where is this going to take place? Have not chosen an exact date, it might be an evening session, or scheduled for

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-15 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
.. I'm still unclear how one is supposed to distinguish between a smooth, wide urban footpath and a hiking trail. A footpath can be traversed by a weelchair, perambulator or shopping trolley? Regards, Nick *** WARNING:

[OSM-talk] putting Q150 survey marks on osm

2009-12-03 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello Mappers, It is Queensland's (Australia) 150th birthday, and to celebrate, the Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute (SSSI) organised the placement of a number of commemorative permanent marks around the state. http://sssiq150.org/About-SSSI-Q150-Project.aspx These marks are part

[talk-au] putting Q150 survey marks on osm

2009-12-03 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello Mappers, It is Queensland's (Australia) 150th birthday, and to celebrate, the Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute (SSSI) organised the placement of a number of commemorative permanent marks around the state. http://sssiq150.org/About-SSSI-Q150-Project.aspx These marks are part

Re: [talk-au] Photographers face wider anti terror curbs news

2009-05-17 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
http://www.amateurphotographer.co. uk/news/Photographers_face_wider_anti_terror_curbs_news_281398.html From a UK site, where they are reporting on training civilians to keep a watch on 'hostile reconnaissance'. This urges people to look out for 'overt/covert photography' as well as those

Re: [OSM-talk] Aerial Photographs (was: People's Map)

2009-04-16 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
RC airplanes aren't cheaper for two reasons: 1. RC airplanes (and any civilian-operated UAV) has significant flight restrictions - distance and altitude. Flying at low altitude (under 500 feet MSL), you end up with a higher spatial resolution but you have to stitch together many more images

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-04 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
How about the option of contributors transferring their copyright to OSM (the legal entity) which can then choose to release the data under an appropriate license? This is not a good idea because the OSMF can be bought out quite easily by a big company. I don't understand. Bought out

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking aisle as boundary of car park not showing

2008-09-25 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
My main problem with mapping areas to the centre line (I'm not really counting landuse here, its possibly an exception) is the farcical situations to which it leads. The buildings example is the best: it's not uncommon at all to have a road abutted on both sides by buildings. If we map them

Re: [OSM-talk] NoName

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