Maybe you have a better option?
Yes.
It already happened.
Liz
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On 4 May 2011 06:49, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for
our government, they are good enough for us...
Who is us, in this case?
This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise
If you want to do some mapping from home, then BING imagery is usually
more
than adequete and is and will continue to
be OSM comliant. This way your efforts will not be in vain whether you
stay
with OSM, or branch off to another project.
I map in places where the best imagery is usually
I've been thinking about the 12nm territorial borders on sea that
we have in many places, notably in Europe. Many of them seem to have
been auto-generated by simply placing a buffer around the coastline.
My first question is, do they really have legal significance? They
Just that it's
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 19:30 +, Steve Doerr wrote:
Nothing official, but it would be very unusual for anybody to call
something that wasn't surfaced a road.
Unless they were expatriates in a third-world country?
please refrain from such remarks - I suppose you think we map by snake
.
Can we can just confine the discussion to coastline then? As you say,
there is unlikely to be a definitive answer for other boundaries, but
the coast is the coast, yes?
The Victorian coastline changes too - especially along the limestone
Shipwreck Coast to the east of Warrnambool.
What
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:29 PM, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
but while the coastline is constantly altering the admin boundary is
expected to remain unaltered
Do you think? Surely those admin boundaries are expressed as to the
high tide mark or something, not to some arbitrary coordinate
If you want to just keep the ABS data in OSM as a pure copy of the ABS
data,
and not modify it even where it is obviously supposed to follow the
coastline, but just misses it, then what is the point of having it the ABS
data contained within the OSM to begin with? It may as well just be a
As an aside, as large and as remote in parts of Australia are, I'd be
surprised if you could put your finger on a way that will never be
touched again, either by on the ground survey, or by aerial
photography review. If you'd care to name one, I'd be happy to place
a wager!
Ian.
I don´t
Hi,
I was just wondering is there a GPS track somewhere which actually marks
the
tropic of cancer. While downloading maps for oziexplorer, I have the
option
of overlaying a gpx track. With tropic of cancer track, my map would have
a
nice red line crossing it marking the tropic of cancer.
On 08/11/10 20:49, Peter Ross wrote:
Their idea is that a museum (say) would buy these locata things and
place them throughout their building then people could wander around
with their smart phone and get information relevant to where they are,
or alternatively firefighters could place the
Original Message
Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia
From:staehler m-141249-8c1...@messages.openstreetmap.org
Date:Wed, October 27, 2010 17:37
To: ed...@billiau.net
As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for
the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and
attribute
appropriately.
I've got 3 names by research - checking the addresses of the pub, school,
police station.
After that I was going to send
Liz wrote,
Yesterday we found lots of blue numbered markers on posts near bridges,
all 4 digit, and a larger number of posts white with blue top which marked
culverts, with a larger number of digits.
Were all these on major highways?.
Burley Griffin Way; Hume Highway; Newell Highway
Yesterday we found lots of blue numbered markers on posts near bridges,
all 4 digit, and a larger number of posts white with blue top which marked
culverts, with a larger number of digits.
Then on the Hume orange posts with black numbers placed at one km
intervals - photographed a few of each and
Recently I've been photographing Canberra Bridge numbers and registering
them in OSM in the hope that one day ACT emergency services will find them
to be of use. I've currently done about 200 (only 600 to go).
When you said ACT bridge problem I thought that you meant the one that
fell down
2) The worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable
license to do any act that is restricted by copyright over anything
within the Contents, whether in the original medium or any other
gives them that.
I got far enough through the Australian Copyright Act at the weekend to
Am 07.09.2010 18:01, schrieb Mâ¡rtin Koppenhoefer:
craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the
translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office.
I don't think so, but I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons.
I see a fashion_designer as somebody who
Le samedi 28 août 2010 à 11:14, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com a écrit
:
The problem is that we got data also from some GIS companies who
wanted non commercial only. The cc protected them in some way. I will
have to go back and rework all the contracts.
(as this is legal-talk, I must say
On 28/08/10 14:47, Joe Richards wrote:
For those of us who perhaps haven't watched all of the threads too
carefully, is there such a thing as a list of the issues the new ODbL
was intended to address (its pros) and the problems that those who
wish to stick to the CC-by-SA license perceive
On 27 August 2010 10:04, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
The way I understand it, a culvert is just a tiny pseudo-bridge,
physically
equivalent to a tunnel under an embankment. Culverts don't show up in
the US
National Bridge Inventory, which is a database of bridges on public
On Friday 27 August 2010 05:34:00 John F. Eldredge wrote:
That is, indeed, a highly detailed map, but since it doesn't show
elevation
contours (or at least not any visible at maximum zoom from my phone's
browser), it would not be classified as a topographical map. By
definition, a
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use
tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of the
ambivalent culvert=yes ?
I'd like to know what ford=culvert means first.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:55 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use
tunnel=culvert (and ford=culvert / bridge=culvert) instead of
the
ambivalent culvert=yes ?
I'd like to know
Sorry, I should have photographed one I passed this morning, complete
with
water.
I am sure there will be other opportunities to take that photo.
Emilie Laffray
rain has been pretty rare in the last 10 years, so only twice since then
have I seen the water in the little culverts
ford=culvert is even more insane. There is either a ford or a culvert.
It's
physically impossible to be both at the same time.
I said like a ford in the first place. To me the ford crosses a natural
waterway, and the culvert is not a natural waterway.
On 27/08/2010 14:17, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
In a town which does not have underground storm water management, the
gutters at the side of the roads have to cross one of the roads at an
intersection so you have a half-elliptical shaped culvert which traffic
crosses, making a little ford.
How do you tag a winery? I tried tourism=winery but that doesn't render.
I guess shop=alcohol would render, but that's not really the correct tag.
- Ben
I have put them in as tourism=attraction, back in the days when i found a
tag and misused it or altered it to fit reality.
They are a
I wonder what the odds of this ending up on google in the next 6 months
will be.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.27381lon=153.0753zoom=15layers=B000FTF
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I wonder what the odds of this ending up on google in the next 6 months
will be.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.27381lon=153.0753zoom=15layers=B000FTF
sorry about the blank mail
that bridge seems to have a bike track on the eastern side which descends
into the water
??
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I have said consistently that the Australian section of the map stands
to lose
an enormous amount of data in a change to ODbL.
This is a strawman argument.
If - and I really mean if - If we had to remove the Australian
Finally got around to updating the data showing progress of road mapping
across Victoria as compared to the 'definitive' source from the Victorian
Government.
The table can be found at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Victoria,_Australia/Road_progress.
There is no lack of work
Absolutely, and we will... in fact, I'm working on it right now. I just
thought it was worth making the point that housenumbers are (in my humble
opinion) key to enabling many wider applications of map data.
Cheers
b
i've been putting in some odd numbers
if i am tagging or shop or office
On 5 July 2010 17:39, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
The only reason you gave against creating multiple nodes was you
didn't like it. Seems fine to me. Especially since the church and
school in this case are not really co-located: the centre of the
There is no church, they're using
This kit may also help, depending on your screen size:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12561
when fitted, provides a 7-inch touchscreen via USB, which I'm assuming
would be more convenient that using the touchpad.
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I've seen hardware hacks
On 8 May 2010 13:03, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Floodways are often in places were you can't even see the creek bed.
http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?album_id=23_order=date_off=4151
(Just about the last picture before we broke down Australia Day)
Ok, so flood plain or flood prone areas...
There are several suggestions for the front page here. Some of them
have already been implemented.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page
Since you are advocating a substantial redesign perhaps you could
draft something? I'm certain that the current designers weren't
aiming
2010/4/13 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com
For the record I'm much more likely to trust Komzpa who's a long time
contributor to the community than someone who thinks citizenship has
any meaning at all in an argument.
Komzpa is out of reach of Russian state authorities. Russian citizens
On 12 April 2010 08:03, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to be a party pooper, but do you think Lonely Planet would be
okay with this kind of use of their publication?
I doubt she'd be copying it verbatim, more likely she's using it like
a street directory for route planning
made it safely into adelaide with the routable garmin maps from
http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php. Must check one point where
the advice was to cross over the median strip and use the wrong side of
the road.
Small hiccup in an inability to set a route over the Vic/SA border, but
can
Hi.
On 28 March 2010 17:04, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I find that the use of NHA17; NHA20; NHA1 and NHA8 as route designations
is quite silly.
No road sign says NH anything.
I'm inclined to agree here. I understand why it was decided that way
originally, but it is slightly confusing that
My advice:
set the camera clock in UTC (regardless of where you live; it's the
One True Timezone :-)
Before going out geotagging, set the clock, because if it's right you
can either skip or have an easier time with the time sync issue.
take a picture of the GPS receiver's time
I used my garmin oregon 550 in the car on the way to Canberra yesterday.
Messed up a bit because i hadn't put a routable map on it, so had Navit on
the netbook on the passengers seat to assist me.
However I noted that the OSM map on the Garmin clearly shows the admin
boundaries with names - I was
Hi,
Stefan Pflumm wrote:
this ways are all highways.
It surely is unusual for two highways sharing the same nodes, and I
cannot think of an example where this would make sense. But that doesn't
mean there is none; can you give an example?
Bye
Frederik
Double-decker bridge
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:57 PM, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Hi,
Stefan Pflumm wrote:
this ways are all highways.
It surely is unusual for two highways sharing the same nodes, and I
cannot think of an example where this would make sense. But that
doesn't
mean there is none; can you
Hello,
Is it allowed (or intended) that two different ways share the same
edges? For example:
there are nodes a, b, c and two ways A, B with:
A = (a, b, c)
B = (c, b, a)
While loading some osm data in a database i realized that there are some
ways with this problem, so
is this a correct
On 11 February 2010 05:33, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Haven't got far through the judgement so far but this sounds quite
clear.
7.
The Copyright Act does not protect facts, ideas or information contained
in a
work, to ensure a balance is struck between the interests of authors and
those
I haven't used Merkaartor but I presume it presents relations in a way
similar to JOSM which is what I've been using.
You can make it show big blue dotted lines on the map in a rectangle
around the extreme points in the relation, or turn it off and not be
alarmed by big blue dotted lines going
On 11 February 2010 14:19, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
Doesnt all content have an identifiable author, or at least copyright
holder? Unless its computer generated that is.
The copyright holder isn't always the author, although in the case of
Channel 9/Telstra they should have
Roy Wallace wrote:
I use name=Woolworths for Woolworths petrol stations. Have never used
the operator=* tag - should I?
I haven't seen any difference to the rendering with or without the
operator tag.
What I do find useful is the inclusion of a place name when looking at
the list of
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response
http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/
I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti...
but nothing like this occurred when
I'm aware of the concept that the earth is not flat.
But... This is a two dimensional map. IFAIK there is no 3d data. The PoV
of viewing the OSM data via the likes of Mapnik is always through the
surface of the earth to the centre of the earth. Therefore a line such
as this Oz highway is,
Nick Hocking wrote:
I notice someone's filled in lots of Waikerie too.
John H
Missed quite a few streets in Waikerie as we managed to drive
inefficiently in a circle, but when i downloaded all the gpx files from
the server there was good additional information there.
We did some more
2010/1/2 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
When I looked up WAAS on wikipedia a while ago, it appeared that we do
have
an equivalent system in Australia (although the term WAAS is american),
but
I'm not sure how to tell whether it's functioning in a given area. I
switched the WAAS
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 04:28, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Ãvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason writes:
 No it's wrong, imagery now works with JOSM out of the box if you
fetch
 the wmsplugin.
it's not working for me. Â I get red Exception occurred boxes.
What errors do you get in the
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/23 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Interestingly, there is NO mention of mapping data. Amazing. How can
they continue to omit this from the discussion?
Actually thereg did a good run down on this:
How are people tagging these, they aren't like other emergency
services and you can't contact them by dialing 000 for that matter.
Nothing came up in searching for SES/State Emergency Services... Well
apart from some spanish word that's completely irrelevent.
13 25 00
i've put some in
2009/12/26 cam_...@fastmail.fm:
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 21:08 +1000, John Smith wrote:
How are people tagging these, they aren't like other emergency
services and you can't contact them by dialing 000 for that matter.
Nothing came up in searching for SES/State Emergency Services... Well
2009/12/26 ed...@billiau.net:
At the time I must have got emergency_service from somewhere
where else is it used?
I'm happy to change when we decide
I'm just pointing out it goes against other emergency services,
although they should probably be grouped together properly instead of
lumped
2009/12/26 ed...@billiau.net:
Ambulance - diff types
Most are state run, WA has outsourced to St Johns I think, and then
there is volunteer ones too I think...
Fire - diff types incl CFA and RFS
There is also metro, which are full time paid employees rather than
mostly/all volunteer.
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
html
head
meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type
/head
body bgcolor=#ff text=#00
Thanks for this info. I downloaded the routable maps last night and
tried them out today at work (I'm a delivery
I also just tried out routing on my new Garmin Oregon 550...awesome. I was
on cycling Churchill Park in Melbourne's east and camping the night. The
gps, using only osm data, found me some really interesting tracks that I
wouldn't have thought of on my own. Someone's done a good job in that
Just a note.
Was using Navit for navigation into Adelaide (although we do know the way)
and noticed the right turn at the bottom of the big hill into Portrush
Road was followed by a left turn in 20 metres, which isn't the way you see
it as a driver.
I think that this is the result of Portrush Road
I've used NearMap for this sort of thing on roads that I am
familiar(ish) with, it gives you a pretty good idea of when it's a
painted line and when it's a hard strip. One bit of fun to look out
for is where the road is divided by pegs (bits of Princes Highway in
Sydney), but if you zoom in
Or are you actually turning into Portrush Rd? In which case the Nuvi
has me doing a simple right-hand turn.
John
Yes, turning into Portrush Road, which was Turn right, turn left in 20
metres
when to the driver it is the same as above - a right turn only.
If it is a Navit problem I'll
Liz wrote:
This am we'll head out along the Mallee, put some more streets in
Manangatang
and return next week via the Sturt and put some streets in Waikerie.
If you're taking your bike, the bike path between Renmark and Paringa is
nice and is missing from OSM.
I'm still hoping to be
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett
stevag...@gmail.comwrote:
Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage
them to join?
Their club magazine, Checkpoint, is also looking for
John Smith wrote:
Adding in postcodes and the BP data I've noticed a LOT of square
roundabouts...
The problem arises mainly with economically-drawn flared approaches to
roundabouts, as that term is used in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout
John
So the wiki
s.
I can't for the life of me think what sort of research would require a
copy of the wiki though.
Tom
someone researching social networking ?
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I was just marking the show grounds here in Rockhampton but I'm not
quite sure what tag to use. I've had a look at the tags on the OSM Wiki
under landuse, Amenity and Leisure and nothing seems to be the right
tag. I even had a look under the Australian tagging guidelines. I
i think i have left my garmin etrex cx in the hotel in melbourne.
in which case, its gone.
what are people's favourites for a bicycle mounted gps with display which
shows OSM maps?
other criteria
good accuracy
value for $
ability to use as gps source for navit when in motor vehicle
Liz
ed...@billiau.net ed...@billiau.net wrote:
ability to use as gps source for navit when in motor vehicle
The good news is that Navit can use any NMEA source, which just about
any serial or USB connectable device will provide.
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I haven't yet persuaded navit to listen to a GPS on
Hi!
Shalabh schrieb:
Would just like to figure out if any of you have had the same issue with
this model or any other Garmin GPS.
I have a similar Issue with the Garmin Vista HCx. Occasionally I
observe, that the GPS position is way off the known road/path I am on.
The satellite accuracy
android powered phones only?
jim
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jYfeature=player_embedded
as i waited and waited for this to download on my 3G modem in Melbourne
i thought
wot if the data downloads so
Lester Caine wrote:
We still have not come to any consensus on the general points of mapping
and who is in charge so a dictate from above TELLING us to move to a new
list seems somewhat out of place?
I guess it's a matter of perception.
You see a dictate from above TELLING you to do
just had a look at australia and we have some rogue admin boundaries in NT
on Barkly Tablelands and in North SA
http://osm.org/go/s...@go
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Frederik said
All this is possible *within* the existing OSM framework and without any
strong leader telling us where to go. I really do encourage you and all
those calling for leadership to get together, form your own advisory
board or tagging committee or whatever, create the structures you
This weekend I think I'll be checking out some local bird watching spots
http://rankinssprings.googlepages.com/home
so does anyone have any ideas on tagging bird watching spots and hides?
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2009/9/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
And this seems to be the case here?
The problem is the ways are the best place to tag the ABS information,
and the ABS data just happens to follow rivers, islands, railways and
roads and so on which is very useful where people can't survey and
Coincidentally I have just had a meeting with someone from one of the
local councils who is interested in using OSM data for their online
services. I brought up this issue and he explicitly said that the
coordinates of the footpaths on the definitive map were derived from
Ordnance Survey
John Smith wrote:
2009/9/28 Ruben Wisniewski ru...@all-in-si.de:
Hi John,
thank you for your report, but whats wrong with moving the tags to a
relation, this is the common way as far as I know, only all ways
together represent the border, so the relation should hold the tags.
Else if there
this might just be a silly / basic question
how does one tell Navit to allow one to drive on the motorway?
I double checked, its set to car, not to horse cycle or pedestrian, and it
won't send me along a motorway
or is this a problem with au data??
Liz
who luckily knew the way because it
Interesting, It puts me on motorways all the time (sometimes it would be
nice to
have more choice). Have you checked the oneways etc. Have you got a
permalink
to a problematic road
cheers
150km of Hume Highway
and a few km in wollongong
same thing
motorway sends me to go down first exit
I tried a few random points on the Hume and on the way down to
wollongong and
'it works for me' ;-(
I'm using a recentish svn version and one of John's recentish
Australia.bin
files
cheers
i've got a very recent (yesterday) bin file from John, but I'll try the
upgrade from svn
I'm not
I tried a few random points on the Hume and on the way down to
wollongong and
'it works for me' ;-(
I'm using a recentish svn version and one of John's recentish
Australia.bin
files
cheers
i've got a very recent (yesterday) bin file from John, but I'll try the
upgrade from svn
I'm
Hello,
I hope to contribute to the OSM mapping project for Australia. I'm based
in
Murray Bridge, SA and work in Adelaide.
If you're interested in my background you can read about me at my blog (
http://domiconsultant.org ). From there is a link to my LinkedIn profile.
Mike Smith
--
are you thinking of a paved section intended for walking, or just the
space
which here could be grass, rough ground, or even gardened?
a paved surface intended for walking
there are places in my village where you can walk on the grass next to
the road - I've been marking them as 'no
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Tags for that purpose are already described on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfuel
I just noticed this url on that page:
http://www.osmfuel.org
map/site for searching fuel locations
Still short on listing
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Gah... don't tag for the renderer.
We're not tagging for the renderer, we're tagging to describe something,
perhaps this is just a case of needing a width and to render accordingly,
however you need something more than just
Liz wrote:
the Transystem i-Blue 887
was bought as photoMate 887
successfully connected under bluetooth protocols with Linux and used
mtkbabel
to obtain the data
unsuccessful so far with usb connection as wrong ID by kernel 2.6.27,
loading
wrong module
Accuracy looks good
Hi Liz,
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
Well aware of that, I've been using them for osm uploads
for 2-3years.
However osm only uses a very limited set so lat, long and
elev are all
that is currently used by osm, you have to enter all other
tags manually.
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