Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Ulf Möller
80n schrieb: As far as I know there has been no attention paid to the FIL. It was grabbed at the last minute from here It doesn't look like it has been reviewed thoroughly (and the co-ment page seem to be password protected.) The requirement to include a copy of the license pretty much

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I'd like to clarify the reason for two (2) licenses. The FIL is being considered for individual atoms of data, while the ODbL is being considered for major chunks of the database? Is this correct? Would it be helpful to: [1] Determine what is an atom that the FIL would apply to. [2] Determine

[OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Peter Miller
The ODbL says that one can release Produced Works under any license. The Factual Information License says that You must include a copy of this Licence with the Work in a location reasonably calculated to make others aware of it. Given that OSM data will always have content licensed using

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread 80n
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: The ODbL says that one can release Produced Works under any license. The Factual Information License says that You must include a copy of this Licence with the Work in a location reasonably calculated to make

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, When the community is asked to vote on the license change it is the FIL that they need to consider not the ODbL. I propose that we start working on the wording of the messages that users will receive, i.e. the initial E-Mail, and the dialogue messages they see on osm.org when they are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Tom Hughes
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, When the community is asked to vote on the license change it is the FIL that they need to consider not the ODbL. I propose that we start working on the wording of the messages that users will receive, i.e. the initial E-Mail, and the dialogue messages they see

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread 80n
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: 80n wrote: As far as I know there has been no attention paid to the FIL. It was grabbed at the last minute from here http://www.opencontentlawyer.com/open-data/open-data-commons-factual-info-licence/ I don't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, 80n wrote: Apparently the sentence referring to the FIL in Grant's email was inserted by Steve, It is nice to know that Steve still speaks to this mailing list, even if only through sentences inserted into other people's E-Mails. Bye Frederik PS: If you find any Lolcat stuff in any of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: The ODbL says that one can release Produced Works under any license. The Factual Information License says that You must include a copy of this Licence with the Work in a location reasonably calculated to make others

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 2 de Marzo de 2009, Gustav Foseid escribió: The Factual information license, seems to be a bit schizophrenic. It says both that facts are free, and that these free facts cannot be used without including a license... That's called the stupid jurisdictions clause. Just because facts

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Grant Slater
Ulf Möller wrote: It doesn't look like it has been reviewed thoroughly (and the co-ment page seem to be password protected.) Passport protection was a mistake and has now been removed. / Grant ___ legal-talk mailing list