Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Tagging laadpalen auto in Nederland

Ik ben nog wel een oude mailing list liefhebber :-) Ik ben/was hier ook in geinteresseerd, Er staat wel het een en ander op de wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station Mijn hoop was namelijk ook dat de EVSE nummers allemaal goed in OSM kwamen. Er werd namelijk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Tagging laadpalen auto in Nederland

On 5/18/23 11:51, Hugo hölscher wrote: Is hier al eerder over gedacht, ik heb in deze mail list niets gevonden. De Nederlandse community is hier niet echt actief meer, de activiteit is tegenwoordig op het forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/nl/43 Mvg, Bas -- GPG

[OSM-talk-nl] Tagging laadpalen auto in Nederland

Dag allemaal, Bij het taggen van laadpalen die "los" op straat staan(voor elektrische auto's) loop ik tegen de naamgeving aan. Ik gebruik nu als name: de code die op de paal staat: bv cch0012334. Dat is een unieke code en deel van de ESVE (Europese officiele tag). Die lijkt langzaam te

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 18/5/23 04:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or

[OSM-talk-nl] Tagging laadpalen auto in Nederland

Dag allemaal, Bij het taggen van laadpalen die "los" op straat staan(voor elektrische auto's) loop ik tegen de naamgeving aan. Ik gebruik nu als name: de code die op de paal staat: bv cch0012334. Dat is een unieke code en deel van de ESVE (Europese officiele tag). Die lijkt langzaam te

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > >> >> >> Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by >> ajt1...@gmail.com>> : >> >> >>> More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data >>> (or actually, _any_ external data from

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

Ciao Andy > On 16 May 2023, at 19:15, Andy Townsend wrote: > > You changed it to "shop=yes", of which there are 180,000 of in OSM. No-one > is going to spot that as an "unusual" shop at all. Especially since these `shop=yes` are not rendered on OpenStreetMap Carto anymore, this made me

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[OSM-talk] nRoute problems

Hi all, in the old times maps (e. g. "country name osm_generic_windows.exe") were installed in C:\Garmin\Maps. There, they were found by BaseCamp, Mapsource and nRoute. Maps from alternativaslibres.org are by default installed in C:\Program Data\Garmin\Maps. There, only BaseCamp and Mapsource

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or actually, _any_ external data from _anywhere_) will look at the values contained in it***. And that is exactly

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #668 02/05/2023-08/05/2023

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 668, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16489 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 668 02/05/2023-08/05/2023

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 668 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16489/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

Bonjour, Merci pour vos retours. J'ai créé un ticket côté StreetComplete pour suggérer a minima de ne pas reposer la question sur le noeud si l'info existe déjà sur le chemin : https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5011 Prochaine étape : améliorer le wiki car l'info sur

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

lanning > to close it after May 12. > > https://osmf.limequery.org/751285 > > > > Have a great weekend everyone! > > Marjan > > > > *From:* Marjan Van de Kauter > *Sent:* Friday 28 April 2023 15:30 > *To:* talk@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* [OSM-talk]

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Hi Thanks I've gone ahead with the edit now, after being encouraged to do so in the community forum. You can see the changesets here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/osmuser63783-bot/history I get it - the suggestion which tag to use instead should come from the community, not from an app

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Erreurs Osmose pour les transformateurs sur poteau

Bonjour et merci de l'avoir remarqué, c'est tout à fait légitime. Nous attendons la prise en compte de ce ticket sur JOSM : https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/22200 pour faire disparaître ces signalements. C'est suite au vote de

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 667 25/04/2023-01/05/2023

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 667 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16471/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #667 25/04/2023-01/05/2023

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 667, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16471 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Erreurs Osmose pour les transformateurs sur poteau

Bonjour, C'est une règle de validation qui provient de JOSM https://josm.openstreetmap.de/browser/josm/trunk/resources/data/validator/combinations.mapcss De plus, ce n'est pas parce qu'une proposition est acceptée, que les données sont mises à jour en conséquence. Frédéric. Le 05/05/2023 à

[OSM-talk] OSMF Strategic Planning 2023

* 2023 Strategic Planning Cycle – Community Participation * The Board of the OpenStreetMap Foundation is revising its Strategic Plan, and invites all OSMF members and the OSM community to participate in this process. The plan is quite large, so we want to discuss it with you in four phases over

[OSM-talk-fr] Erreurs Osmose pour les transformateurs sur poteau

Osmose génère plein d'erreurs pour les transformateurs sur poteaux : https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#item=9001=12=45.9717=0.7335=1%2C2%2C3 attribut manquant : substation sans power=substation ou pipeline=substation Ceci parce que ces poteaux sont taggés avec : power = pole

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Hello, as this is not the right place to talk about talk, I'll only answer briefly before we switch to tagging if you wish Le 29.04.23 à 16:45, osmuser63783 a écrit : something like sidewalk:both:kerb=raised would be better. Others have used kerb:location=footway. kerb is not on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Hello, Le 29.04.23 à 16:45, osmuser63783 a écrit : What I am proposing is essentially to revert these nodes to their previous state: I've gone through about 100 of them, and the old state is just as wrong as the current state. I understand your desire to "fix for one routing", but a mass

[OSM-talk-fr] Cycle de planification stratégique de la OSMF 2023 - Participation de la communauté

Hi, Le conseil d'administration de la Fondation OpenStreetMap révise son plan stratégique et invite tous les membres de l'OSMF et la communauté OSM à participer à ce processus. Le plan est assez détaillé. C'est pourquoi nous voulons en discuter avec vous en quatre phases au cours des deux

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

a great weekend everyone! Marjan From: Marjan Van de Kauter Sent: Friday 28 April 2023 15:30 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors Hi everyone, We are doing a research project on how OpenStreetMap users interact with each other. Are you willing

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Spot on, Greg! If this was Discourse I'd just leave a heart emoji, but since I have to type a reply anyway, I'd like to address some components of what makes communication civil and collaborative: 1. Assume positive intent until proven otherwise. 2. Don't assume that the reader's background

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

"Brian M. Sperlongano" writes: > I would caution against hyper-simplifying the combativeness of the mailing > lists as "cultural differences". I can think of several German participants > on Slack and Discord that dispel this stereotype. Similarly, I can think > of several American commenters

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

Bonjour, Une solution, lorsque les attributs sont placés sur le chemin highway=footway, serait d'utiliser xxx:separate sur le nœud highway=crossing (crossing:markings=separate par exemple). Ça permettrait: 1- D'éviter les doublons 2- D'indiquer, à qui veut bien chercher, que l'info existe à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

je signale juste que crossing_ref=zebra n'est pas égal à crossing:markins=zebra parce que cette dernière valeur ne représente qu'un des cas possible de marquage zebré (cfr les autres cas dans taginfo fr) Bonjour, Je ne comprends pas ta logique. Il me semble que crossing_ref, du point de

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

[...] contexts: > [1] > *""According to Hofstede, a typical conversation in a German cultural > context is characterized by a large degree of honesty, even if it hurts.* > > > > > > > *Consequently, Germans are perceived to be among the most direct > communicators in the world (Yin,

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:57 +02:00, Courtney wrote: > Why is the > main "Talk" channel the only one that is producing pushback? Why is it > the only one that is producing such a negative tone? Just a minor point for others: main LGBTQ OSMer found the gender question, and attitudes towards

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Hello, Le 03.05.23 à 22:00, Courtney a écrit : "I know you may be relatively new here, so to help you be successful, here are some ideas for how to structure for your project" to a statement like this:  "I am disappointed to yet again see someone doing this wrong and ignoring the requests

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 2:08 PM Courtney wrote: > It's valid to ask for more specifics. You're right that "combative" just > ends up being an alienating word. > > Here's an example that I think everyone can benefit from. > > When I see a comment that reflects a kind of tired, angry emotion about

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Just to tie up a few of the loose ends. Nothing that anyone has said has been dismissed or downgraded as merely "pushback." This has all been very instructive for me and I've learned a lot. In the first post, Marjan described the companies and roles of the folks to whom I'm referring to as my

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

Bonjour, Le 03.05.23 à 22:40, Bernard Lefrançois via Talk-fr a écrit : je ne vois plus l'utilité de conserver ce crossing_ref qui ne correspond à aucune "ref" en vigueur chez nous un passage piéton avec des lignes blanches peintes parallelement au trotoir, je pense qu'on référence cela de

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

It seems the big joy in all this is that we are all quite correct. It isn't so much a conflict as it is "what comes next." Sure, there are good questions that haven't been answered yet, I look forward to those. OSM isn't a battle. It is a project. We grow. Does it matter what the survey

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > On Wed, May 3, 2023, 1:00 PM Brian M. Sperlongano > wrote: > >> I would caution against hyper-simplifying the combativeness of >> the mailing lists >> > I am not sure using a term such as "combative" is going to be effective in > bringing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

A l'origine crossing_ref avec toutes ses valeurs zebra, toucan, tiger, puffin etc. décrit un système de références en vigueur au Royaume-Uni ou chaque "ref" définit bien plus que le simple marquage (présence d'un feu, conditions d'accès,

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

Courtney wrote on 5/3/2023 4:00 PM: Compare a statement like this:  "I know you may be relatively new here, so to help you be successful, here are some ideas for how to structure for your project" to a statement like this:  "I am disappointed to yet again see someone doing this wrong and

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

It's valid to ask for more specifics. You're right that "combative" just ends up being an alienating word. Here's an example that I think everyone can benefit from. When I see a comment that reflects a kind of tired, angry emotion about having to point out a mistake or breach of protocol yet

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

On Wed, May 3, 2023, 1:00 PM Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > I would caution against hyper-simplifying the combativeness of the mailing > lists > I am not sure using a term such as "combative" is going to be effective in bringing about the change you desire. First the term has strong negative

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

I think it's really cool how this thread has turned into a compendium--or commonplace book--of ideas about the culture here. To me, all of the causes you've discussed are in play, including the impact of types of tools and types of data collection methodology. It's why I am so drawn to this

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

I would caution against hyper-simplifying the combativeness of the mailing lists as "cultural differences". I can think of several German participants on Slack and Discord that dispel this stereotype. Similarly, I can think of several American commenters who are notoriously abrasive on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

On May 3, 2023, at 11:07 AM, John Whelan wrote: > A very accurate summation in my opinion. > Imre Samu wrote on 5/3/2023 1:03 PM: >> Courtney ezt írta (időpont: 2023. ápr. 30., >> V, 19:06): >> This conversation has opened up important new questions. Why is the main >> "Talk" channel the

Re: [OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

However, this is easier said than done. IMHO: Most conflicts within the OSM community and on the OSM-Talk mailing list are due to *intercultural differences,* and there's no current mediation or conflict resolution in place. It might be helpful to have "intercultural mediators"

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hi, On 5/2/23 00:10, Courtney wrote: I believe that my team's research project Can you clarify who "your team" in this context is? You were introduced in Marjan's initial post as "OSMF Communication Working Group Member" and were the only of four names without a TomTom affiliation. You are

[OSM-talk-fr] JOSM version stable 18721 traduction du Journal des modification

JOSM vient de passer à la version stable 18721 Voici la traduction en français du Journal des modifications https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Fr%3AChangelog#a2023-05-03:VersionStable1872123.04 Le lien vers l’original anglais est en haut à droite du Journal des modifications) cordialement

[OSM-talk] Intercultural differences / cultural diversity / OSM communication behaviors

ed, its practical implementation isn't fully successful yet. *Ethnocentric attitudes* need to be addressed, and we must be more open to other cultures. However, this is easier said than done. IMHO: Most conflicts within the OSM community and on the OSM-Talk mailing list are due to *intercu

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

> So I wouldn't suggest worrying too much about the lists. Theory and practice > of community interaction elsewhere in OSM is absolutely a valid and > interesting topic, but the lists belong to pretty much the same period in OSM > history as IRC and Potlatch, and I say that as someone who

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Courtney wrote: > Or is it going to keep doing the same old flame wars? To be honest, the mailing lists have been on the way out for a long time now, and talk@ is no exception. Some once busy lists are now basically dead (dev@, legal-talk@, talk-de@). Others are noticeably quieter (talk@,

[OSM-talk-fr] traduction de la page du wiki sur la clé « residential »

Bonjour La version française était en retard sur pas mal de valeurs, je l'ai mise à niveau https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:residential Si vous avez des remarques, n’hésitez pas à m'en faire part. cordialement leni ___ Talk-fr mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

Le 03.05.23 à 09:23, Philippe Verdy a écrit : À ce sujet il semble que "crossing_ref=zebra" (et plus généralement "crossing_ref=*" ) soit maintenant déprécié et à remplacer par "crossing:marking=zebra" malheureusement ce n'est pas le cas (ni voté ni en pratique) crossing_ref=zebra dit qu'il y

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur quel objet mettre les tags des passages piétons ?

À ce sujet il semble que "crossing_ref=zebra" (et plus généralement "crossing_ref=*" ) soit maintenant déprécié et à remplacer par "crossing:marking=zebra" pour les "passages piétons non protégés" proposés dans l'éditeur en ligne (qui par défaut utilise " crossing:marking=yes" sans indiquer la

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

I like all that you say here, and importantly, the very good intentions of everyone who posted in this thread is entirely legible to me. I agree that the need to hear different points of view is essential and that it needs to happen in a public forum. As an American, I have a strong predilection

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 10:42 PM Ewen Hill wrote: > Hi all, > I am really disappointed by the anger and outrage in this thread and > that, to castigate a volunteer in public, > I understand you, and some others may feel this way, but what I am seeing is simply an exchange of ideas between

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hi all, I am really disappointed by the anger and outrage in this thread and that, to castigate a volunteer in public, no matter what hat they are wearing or company they work for is just not on. Now we have the LimeSurvey version, let's promote this and look at the results. I hope in future,

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Yes, I understand the concern and am in the middle of adding clarification to the introduction to all 23 copies of the survey. C On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 9:25 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:58 PM Courtney > wrote: > >> Here, too, we gave quite a bit of careful thought to

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:58 PM Courtney wrote: > Here, too, we gave quite a bit of careful thought to the decision. We felt > that if we did not disclose that we were on the CWG, that it might be seen > by some as a lapse of transparency. > It is good that you disclosed your affiliations.

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Here, too, we gave quite a bit of careful thought to the decision. We felt that if we did not disclose that we were on the CWG, that it might be seen by some as a lapse of transparency. Further, I think it's relevant that we're on the CWG, as it shows why we are interested in this topic, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Now that we seem to have established that this was not a CWG thing to start with, could everyone who was involved in creating this announcement please review their communication behaviour, *especially* when it comes to signing messages as "so-and-so, OSMF communications working group" when

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

*I object only to the tone of some of the comments, and to assumptions that are made about our motivation, decision process re: our approach, and quality of our skills. I'm not alone in objecting to problems of tone more broadly, and so I feel comfortable insisting on a higher quality discourse

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hi, all, Here, thanks to the generosity of some folks on the OWG and OSMF who donated their time to us so that we could have access to an open source tool of this quality, is a LimeSurvey version. https://osmf.limequery.org/751285?lang=en Please do fill it out and share it widely within the

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Courtney writes: > Can I ask--what is the fundamental objection to us trying to learn a bit > more about OSM communication habits? I think you are misinterpreting. I detected no objection to trying to learn. I only see objection to proprietary tools and pushing users to surveillance.

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Courtney writes: > We also now have a new datapoint for our research. It will be interesting > to get a sense of how many within the community have principled objections > to proprietary software compared to members of the community who are > looking at useability, localization, and/or

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

> Why is the main "Talk" channel the only one that is producing pushback? Why > is it the only one that is producing such a negative tone? How widely is the > principle of using only open source software adopted across the community? It is not just "Talk". It is a phenomenon of all English

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

John, This is all very insightful and I agree with all of it. One reason we posted the survey in 12 different channels was because we have all worked within OSM for a long time and we are familiar with the different cultures within the different channels. You wrote, "So are you interested in a

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

My background was working with surveys and my comments simply came from that background and the steps taken to obtain accurate results. Nothing else. Typically a university run survey isn't done to high standards. Your comment on questions from talk I think relates to the users. OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 1:06 PM Courtney wrote: > This conversation has opened up important new questions. Why is the main > "Talk" channel the only one that is producing pushback? Why is it the only > one that is producing such a negative tone? > > I don't understand the degree of ire and

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Yes, it is not one or the other. That's my point exactly. So what is the harm in doing our best to get a feel for what people prefer, how they balance these concerns, and how the different choices affect them? I welcome all the pushback and have already learned a very great deal--this is one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Le 30.04.23 à 18:29, Courtney a écrit : It will be interesting to get a sense of how many within the community have principled objections to proprietary software compared to members of the community who are looking at useability, localization, and/or accessibility as well as open sourcing in

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 11:03 AM Courtney wrote: > Why is the main "Talk" channel the only one that is producing pushback? > Why is it the only one that is producing such a negative tone? > I don't sense a "negative tone" in this conversation. Some people disagree with some things you are

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

We do indeed have people with non technical backgrounds working on the survey, including a multilingual person with an advanced degree in language and technology, and a person with an advanced degree in English language. We have two very experienced data analysts working on it, as well. We did

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

We are working on setting up a limesurvey for those who don't wish to use a Google form. I'll post it as soon as I have time to create and distribute it. We also now have a new datapoint for our research. It will be interesting to get a sense of how many within the community have principled

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Just a comment on Fredrick's input. Selecting the sample is one of the most difficult parts of a survey to get right.  The self selection part of this survey makes it open to bias, as Frederick has commented this is compounded by the platform. I'm not making a comment about if the platform is

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hi, On 4/28/23 15:57, Marc_marc wrote: I am impressed (and disappointed) that those who do these surveys have still not learned that part of the active opendata community does not wish to ally a closeddata based enterprise (nominally: no use of google forms for some of us). Agree. It's one

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 666 18/04/2023-24/04/2023

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 666 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16457/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #666 18/04/2023-24/04/2023

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 666, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16457 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Marc_marc writes: > Hello, > > Le 28.04.23 à 15:29, Marjan Van de Kauter a écrit : >> We are doing a research project on how OpenStreetMap users interact >> with each other. > > I am impressed (and disappointed) that those who do these surveys > have still not learned that part of the active

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

[1] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/File:2021_OSMF_survey_country_respondents.ods Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:16:05 +0100 From: Andy Townsend To:talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors Message-ID:<647cf4a6-de0a-34ac-2d7a-980e65c0c...@gmail.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Thanks. > can you share the ids of the objects in your query that meet your dual > criteria of "kerb=raised added by SC, barrier=kerb added by iD?" There are 1,059 nodes that meet these criteria (or met them when I last ran the script to identify them). You can find 100 examples here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Le 28.04.23 à 18:50, osmuser63783 via talk a écrit : Example changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/135319439 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2405171 this is a good example of the problem I am talking about you removed

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Le 21.04.23 à 19:53, osmuser63783 via talk a écrit : I am 100% sure that the barrier=kerb is wrong. can you share the ids of the objects in your query that meet your dual criteria of "kerb=raised added by SC, barrier=kerb added by iD?" I have reviewed 100 objects with satellite view in 3

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [import] import partiel des adresses en France

Le 26/04/2023 à 09:36, Zimmy ZIMMERMANN a écrit : Toute initiative permettant de verser de la donnée manquante dans OSM mainte fois vérifiée par différents acteurs est non seulement nécessaire mais urgente car nous restons en mode amateur avec une position ‘verifié sur le terrain’. Jean-Louis

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 5:52 PM Courtney wrote: > As well, this is not an OSMF survey, nor is it a CWG survey. Yes, two of > us volunteer for the CWG, but it is not formally "from" or "of" the OSMF. > I guess I didn't read the original email closely enough. I got the impression that this was

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Since this seems to be an interesting topic, I will go ahead and add more fineness of detail. First, the reason I personally am interested in this survey as a communications person, is that I believe that looking at the actual data about how OSM'ers communicate may help the community uncover more

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On 28/04/2023 22:50, Allan Mustard wrote: Rather than criticize the CWG for using Google because certain people are restricted by their governments from using Google services, it would be more useful to suggest alternatives that might work in those countries. Mikel already mentioned that

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

/#sponsors Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 16:03:49 +0100 From: Andy Townsend To: S?ren Reinecke Cc:talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 28/04/2023 15:47, S?ren Reinecke wrote: So please

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automated edit of some barrier=kerb kerb=raised nodes (forum crosspost)

Please let me know if there are any unresolved concerns about this proposed edit. If there are no objections I would like to run it this weekend. List of example nodes that I'm proposing to edit: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/proposed-edit-of-some-barrier-kerb-kerb-raised-nodes/98038/13

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

> I don't know how many times this has been proposed > here is one > https[https://framaforms.org]://[https://framaforms.org]framaforms.org[https://framaforms.org] I see the problem. 1. I've heard > https[https://framaforms.org]://[https://framaforms.org]framaforms.org[https://framaforms.org]

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Le 28.04.23 à 16:47, Sören Reinecke a écrit : rather to provide useful suggestion / realistic alternatives I don't know how many times this has been proposed here is one https://framaforms.org So please stop complaining Wasn't the aim to collect opinions on the communication ? wanting to

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hey all -- how about going easier here and helping each other. Rather than condemnation over a relatively minor decision of which platform to use for a survey.  I think suggestion for another platform is easy enough to consider and remedy. OSMF has used limesurvey in the past, it can be looked

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Not only do I understand the concern about unrestricted internet access, it is one of the reasons why we are undertaking our study of OSM community communication practices and habits--there are hundreds of channels, globally, and many of them have to do with working around this particular

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On 28/04/2023 15:47, Sören Reinecke wrote: So please stop complaining about when someone does not share your ideologic attitude. And wanting to use OSS only is a ideology. In this case, it's not just my view, it's the view of the OSMF board:

Re: [OSM-talk] (small) automated edit of name:fiu-vro -> name:vro

No idea, it was way before I started contributing to OSM, but I guess (and hope!) someone had a look at this licensing point. A changeset from that time : https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/17267685#map=1/12/56 If you look, for example, at Tonga, compare versions 2 (before) and 3

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

I am impressed that some of you always choose the path to complain about things going against their own world view rather to provide useful suggestion / realistic alternatives or even better getting involved in the implementation as developers do. Google or Microsoft are unfortunately the

Re: [OSM-talk] (small) automated edit of name:fiu-vro -> name:vro

Apr 25, 2023, 17:06 by jules.bou...@gmail.com: > > 10 > years> ago, manymultilingual country names were imported from > > wikipedia> /> wikidata> . > > Has anyone checked licensing situation when it was done? ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

On 28/04/2023 14:57, Marc_marc wrote: part of the active opendata community does not wish to ally a closeddata based enterprise It's actually worse than that. OpenStreetMap has mappers all around the world.  Some of those places don't have the virtually unrestricted Internet access that

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hello, Le 28.04.23 à 15:29, Marjan Van de Kauter a écrit : We are doing a research project on how OpenStreetMap users interact with each other. I am impressed (and disappointed) that those who do these surveys have still not learned that part of the active opendata community does not wish to

[OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

Hi everyone, We are doing a research project on how OpenStreetMap users interact with each other. Are you willing to help us learn more about communication behaviors in OSM? Take this quick and anonymous survey and tell us if and how you use the OSM community forum, mailing lists, social media

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