[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #663 28/03/2023-03/04/2023

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 663, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16411 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #663 28/03/2023-03/04/2023

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 663, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16411 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [OSM-talk] wheelmap.org batch updates

On 07/04/2023 13:13, Marc_marc wrote: Le 07.04.23 à 12:26, a...@onthewings.net a écrit : it would be great if board/DWG can communicate this with wheelmap.org. I don't think I can represent osm. you don't need to represent the community to make a suggestion and I even think that the

[OSM-talk] mapboox improve the (proprietary database used as en overlay) map

Hello, following a discussion on the mailing list talk-fr, mapbox "improve the map" now feeds their proprietary database, the one that is displayed on top of the osm is it acceptable in terms of licensing to render using odbl+proprietary data? ethically it's obviously very bad to appropriate

Re: [OSM-talk] wheelmap.org batch updates

Hello, Le 07.04.23 à 12:26, a...@onthewings.net a écrit : Currently wheelmap.org users are contributing anonymously not only, you may also use an osm account. changesets that cover a very large area indeed hugde bbox is not a good idea like this one

[OSM-talk] wheelmap.org batch updates

Hi list, I saw that wheelmap.org was discussed in the broad meeting last year ([2022-03](https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2022-03#Contributions_without_individual_OSM_accounts)), but I still havequestions/suggestions regarding wheelmap.org's contribution to osm. Currently

[OSM-talk] Save the date: State of the Map Europe 2023

Hi all, Because there is no global State of the Map event this year, we at OpenStreetMap Belgium have decided to set up a State of the Map Europe instead! The event will be in Antwerp, Belgium from Friday November 10th till Sunday November 11th. There will be space for 500 participants, with

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM version stable 18700 traduction du Journal des modification

Le 03.04.23 à 18:47, leni a écrit : JOSM vient de passer à la version stable 18700 Voici la traduction en français du Journal des modifications Merci Leni quelqu'un comprend l'intéret du passage du plugin au core pour la lecture d'un pbf ? je vois une (micro) augmentation de la consomation

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Activité de contribution organisée : gares SNCF

Désolé pour le manque de réactivité. J'ai ajouté les gares faites à ce jour sur la page projet, je compléterai (et réorganiserai) la liste au fur et à mesure. Malheureusement les plans que nous utilisons font l'objet d'un accord de confidentialité, nous ne pouvons pas les partager avec la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

A Madagascar, il y a les ponts où il n'y a que des madriers dans le sens de la longueur. Vélo ou moto, tu ne passes pas mais, avec un peu de chance, il y a un gué à côté. Il y a aussi les ponts il faut amener soit-même ses madriers...

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

Le 04.04.23 à 00:02, Marc_marc a écrit : - la voie contient des revêtements différent dans sa largeur. je pense surtout à concrete:lanes pour le moment il n'y a pas de moyen de renseigner proprement le revêtement entre les bandes oü roulent les pneus gauches et droites des véhicules à 4 roues.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

Bonsoir, Le 03.04.23 à 21:06, George Kaplan a écrit : on devrait éviter les valeurs multiples. pour qui une valeur multiple serait utile ? je vois 3 cas pour lequel cela arrive : - le voie change de surface -> il faut améliorer/éviter les valeurs multiples en découpant le chemin à chaque

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

Merci Marc_marc, J’ai vu dans la liste des propositions des valeurs cibles multiples comme par ex "ground;asphalt ». AMHA, on devrait éviter les valeurs multiples. Les moteurs d’itinéraires utilisent cette donnée. Ils doivent donc analyser les différentes valeurs et en choisir la pire pour

[OSM-talk-fr] JOSM version stable 18700 traduction du Journal des modification

JOSM vient de passer à la version stable 18700 Voici la traduction en français du Journal des modifications https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Fr%3AChangelog?version=164#a2023-04-03:VersionStable1870023.03(le lien vers l’original anglais est en haut à droite du Journal des modifications)

Re: [OSM-talk] edits made by National Trust staff

1. Re: edits made by National Trust staff (was: Talk-GB Digest, > Vol 197, Issue 27) (Marc_marc) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 11:43:34 +0200 > From: Marc_marc > To: talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

Bonjour, Le 28.03.23 à 23:57, Marc_marc a écrit : j'ai finis par faire une liste de 118 valeurs en français https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/osm-surface-a-traduire Merci à tous ceux qui y ont participé j'ai transmis à Mateusz Je referrai une 2ieme passe quand son bot sera passé corriger tout

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Le 29.03.23 à 14:21, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Mar 29, 2023, 00:15 by marc_m...@mailo.com: Le 28.03.23 à 19:38, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : If someone speaking French would prepare pairs from-to they confirmed to be basically 100% reliable pairs

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

I am not planning to propose automatically migrating ones where situation remains unclear. Mar 27, 2023, 13:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 10:32 Uhr schrieb David Haberthür <> > em...@davidhaberthuer.ch> >: > >> >> Ciao >> >> >>> I added >>>     # translating

Re: [OSM-talk] edits made by National Trust staff (was: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27)

Hello, Le 27.03.23 à 14:51, Ragone, Olivia via talk a écrit : We tend to use a standard changeset comment as it would be very difficult to capture details of every change the comment is not to actually describe what you did but why. e.g. "added a path that was just created" will avoid the

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

Could admin transfer this to Talk-GB please. DaveF On 27/03/2023 13:51, Ragone, Olivia via talk wrote: Thank you for providing feedback on some of the edits made by National Trust staff as part of our organised editing activity, on the representation of paths. We’d like to apologise that it

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

I don't totally disagree with Greg's characterization of "unreasonable," as "standardized / hashtagged" changeset comments are curt (even a touch rude) if they are not super-well-documented (widely vetted, spoken about...) as to what's going on, and easily have the ability to hide errors or

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

I suspect the National Trust of which I happen to be a member is much more centralised and top down than OpenStreetMap which tends to be more bottom up. It is a different culture and the OSM side has evolved over time. I'd ask you to be nice to us and work with us where possible. The OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

"Ragone, Olivia via talk" writes: > We tend to use a standard changeset comment as it would be very > difficult to capture details of every change. However, since receiving > feedback on the Talk-GB mailing list, we have amended our standard > comment to be more representative of the type of

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

Thank you for providing feedback on some of the edits made by National Trust staff as part of our organised editing activity, on the representation of paths. We'd like to apologise that it has taken some time to provide a response. We are always open to constructive feedback that helps us to

[OSM-talk] Fédé des pros d'OSM, la fausse bonne idée / OSM pros' federation, the wrong, good idea

(English version below) Bonsoir, Je publie ici ma réponse au [commentaire](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231#comment54516) de Guillaume, président de l'OSMF, sur mon billet initial : Je te remercie Guillaume pour ta réponse et précise de suite que je ne cherche pas à

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 662 2023-03-21-2023-03-27

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 662 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16399/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #662 2023-03-21-2023-03-27

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 662, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16399 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Activité de contribution organisée : gares SNCF

Bonjour Antoine, Le 28/03/2023 à 09:46, Antoine Riche via Talk-fr a écrit : Après la cartographie des gares d'Île-de-France pour SNCF Transilien, un projet de cartographie des gares pour SNCF Gares & Connexions a démarré fin février. Ce projet est mené par la société Wemap, qui a remporté

[OSM-talk-fr] Données open data venant de AND NL: domaine and.com cybersquattable?

A propos des données néerlandaises de AND NL (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AND_data) La page de copyright d'OSM contient une mention légale liée au site web " www.and.com". Mais ce domaine n'est semble-t-il pas renouvelé et pourrait être à vendre sur GoDaddy. De tels domaines ".com" avec

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Mar 29, 2023, 00:15 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Le 28.03.23 à 19:38, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> If someone speaking French would prepare pairs from-to they confirmed >> to be basically 100% reliable pairs (without some tricky cases where >> given word could mean both

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

missed one : remplace "; " and " ;" by ";" Le 29.03.23 à 13:29, Marc_marc a écrit : suggestion for this one or for the next one : remplace / by ; _and_ by ; _et_ by ; space by _ concrete_made_paving_stones by paving_stone + material=concrete concrete_ by concrete:

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

suggestion for this one or for the next one : remplace / by ; _and_ by ; _et_ by ; space by _ concrete_made_paving_stones by paving_stone + material=concrete concrete_ by concrete: ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Will do  however this operation is geographically limited, so the author must ask the local community for their agreement, and not a global one ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Sorry about that. I was just mentioning this another source of the information. But I am actuall proposing the regular QR code links, not these Ajax ones. On 26/03/2023 18:41, Sören Reinecke wrote: I speak about e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Le 28.03.23 à 19:38, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : If someone speaking French would prepare pairs from-to they confirmed to be basically 100% reliable pairs (without some tricky cases where given word could mean both surface=asphalt and surface=gravel) then I could help replacing them.

[OSM-talk-fr] 118 valeur de surface=* en français à traduire :)

Bonjour, Mateusz prépare un bot pour corriger des valeurs erronées de surface au niveau monndial au fil de la discussion sur la liste talk, j'ai finis par faire une liste de 118 valeurs en français https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/osm-surface-a-traduire aide bienvenue pour mettre à coté

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

If someone speaking French would prepare pairs from-to they confirmed to be basically 100% reliable pairs (without some tricky cases where given word could mean both surface=asphalt and surface=gravel) then I could help replacing them. But I do not feel comfortable to do it when I do not speak

[OSM-talk-fr] Nouveau Défi MapRoulette- voies isolées & nouvelles routes

Bonjour à la communauté OSM France, Je me permets de partager avec vous 2 informations : * Le défi sur les voies isolées a été complété de nouvelles tâches réparties sur toute la France * Un nouveau défi a été mis en ligne sur l’ajout de

[OSM-talk-fr] Activité de contribution organisée : gares SNCF

Bonjour. Après la cartographie des gares d'Île-de-France pour SNCF Transilien, un projet de cartographie des gares pour SNCF Gares & Connexions a démarré fin février. Ce projet est mené par la société Wemap, qui a remporté l'appel d'offres, avec Carto’Cité en sous-traitance. L'ambition est

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Le 24.03.23 à 19:56, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : Is any of values below has blatantly clear meaning in your language matching some established or missing surface value? And would be also eligible for such fixing? looking at https://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/keys/surface#values yes

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fédération des pros d'OSM

Bonjour à toutes et tous Merci beaucoup Séverin d'aborder aussi clairement ce sujet qui aujourd'hui est "cool" mais qui peut à terme de devenir un pot à embrouilles, comme tu l'expliques clairement dans ta publication. Évoluant dans le monde de l'économie "privée" je constate qu'à la

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 10:32 Uhr schrieb David Haberthür < em...@davidhaberthuer.ch>: > Ciao > > I added > # translating German > 'holz': 'wood', > 'schotter': 'gravel', > 'Gras_Laub': 'grass', > to candidate list for the next one > > > I’m my (Swiss German)

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Ciao > I added > # translating German > 'holz': 'wood', > 'schotter': 'gravel', > 'Gras_Laub': 'grass', > to candidate list for the next one I’m my (Swiss German) opinion "Schotter" is much bigger than gravel, which is translated to "Kies". Gravel might be

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Le 26.03.23 à 20:33, john whelan a écrit : Why would we need to have permission from the local mappers to do this? it's in the guideline of automated/mechanical edit : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct#Document_and_discuss_your_plans if your edit *affects only

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

I'm lost here. We have something in the map and we can associate a website with it. Why would we need to have permission from the local mappers to do this? I note locally our bus stops have a reference that does much the same thing but I don't recall having to canvas local mappers about it. On

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

I speak about e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Le 26.03.23 à 18:39, Sören Reinecke a écrit : the resources behind these urls are in a machine readable format did you click on the link or are you talking theory? I don't see how a link intended for the general public could be "machine-only readable" content in any case when I click on it, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Data customers need to do it anyway because the resources behind these urls are in a machine readable format specified to the public transportation agency. So for each country/agency developers need to write a specified parser. There is a internationalized machine readable format for digital pt

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

On Fri, 2023-03-24 at 20:33 +0100, Sören Reinecke wrote: If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned then I see no need to add the urls if the url is stable (and this seems to be the case as it is hard-coded in the QR-code), i see an added value to be able to get the

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

On Fri, 2023-03-24 at 20:33 +0100, Sören Reinecke wrote: > If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned then I > see no need to add the urls. There is no need to store them if you > can create them from a combination of the hard coded [url] and a > variable part retrieved by

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 611 2023-03-14-2023-03-20

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 611 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16390/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #611 2023-03-14-2023-03-20

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 611, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16390 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

[OSM-talk-fr] Fédération des pros d'OSM

Bonsoir, Je viens de publier [ce billet de journal OSM](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231) en lien avec un point à l'ordre du jour la semaine prochaine lors de la réunion mensuelle du Conseil d’administration de la Fondation OpenStreetMap concernant le projet

[OSM-talk] Fédé des pros d'OSM, la fausse bonne idée / OSM pros' federation, the wrong, good idea

Bonjour, J'ai lu hier soir l'ordre du jour de la prochaine réunion du conseil d'administration de l'OSMF jeudi, et je viens de publier ceci : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SeverinGeo/diary/401231 Séverin Hello, I read last night the agenda for the next OSMF board meeting on

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Quoting collapses ... so I ll answer directly. You asked: Would it make sense to document any of ... And yeah, I would document these and put them into "material=" for the record. If something in a foreign language is "paved" then they missed the point of OSM and its standards. Best one can do,

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

sent from a phone > On 24 Mar 2023, at 22:35, > facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc...@vollbio.de wrote: > > Btw. I saw some German word: holz=>wood, schotter=>gravel, verdichtet=>paved > (it means "compacted"), Gras/Laub=>grass, pflasterstein=>cobblestones verdichtet is actually

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Mar 24, 2023, 22:33 by facebook_140f8d4e-9d8f-4d51-a5a7-320f53afc...@vollbio.de: > > Hi > > > Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Here some answers: > > This first part makes sense to me. > Thanks! > Regarding your questions to document previous values, I wouldpropose > to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

>> This scripts exist already, and were writtenmultiple times already >> one more would not change much >> > > @Mateusz: Any help regarding the script would be greatly appreciated. I > have worked with databases before (PostgreSQL, MySQL, SAS) and am aware > of the pitfalls.

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

My workflow in the last few days was to select/process series of way id's from Frederik list with closed iterations that look to come from the same changeset. Using the JOSM Overpass query function with instructions I provided earlier, it is easy to download such a block of data, validate and

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

See below ... On 24/03/2023 21:33, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Mar 24, 2023, 20:40 by valin...@gmx.net: What do you think about this idea? What would be the best way to achieve this in an automated way? If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

Hi Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Here some answers: 1. This first part makes sense to me. 2. Regarding your questions to document previous values, I would propose to use "material=..." as mentioned under: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#See_also 3. "tierra" and

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Mar 24, 2023, 20:40 by valin...@gmx.net: > > >> What do you think about this idea? What would be the best way to achieve >> this in an automated way?>> >> > > If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned then I see no > need to add the urls. There is no need to store them

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

> What do you think about this idea? What would be the best way to achieve this > in an automated way? If these urls are following a fixed scheme like you mentioned then I see no need to add the urls. There is no need to store them if you can create them from a combination of the hard coded >

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

If anyone has opinion either way (this edit should be done/this edit should not be done) that is a good moment to express them - before I will make it. Mar 14, 2023, 20:26 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > There is noticeable (but not very high) number of surface=granite / > surface=marble and other

[OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface values - the third edition (review welcomed!)

I proposed some time ago to replace some surface values. The initial script run was recently done,. Edit is documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/fixing_malformed_surface_tags I propose to expand this by replacing also surfaces listed

[OSM-talk] Automated Edit - Bus stops status link & Bus lines timetable link (Tenerife)

Hi there I would like to update all bus stops on the island of Tenerife with a link to the status website of upcoming connections to this bus stop: * An example of bus stop: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1147359056 * Each such bus stop inhibits a reference: ref=4004 * This reference can

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pifomètre la même route arrive différemment via FANTOIR et via la BAN

Bonjour, > De: "leni" > dans Pifomètre le rapprochement se fait bien, mais je me retrouve avec > deux lignes et les adresses sont signalées comme manquantes alors > qu'elles sont sur la voie rapprochée. Oui il y a 2 lignes distinctes car la ligne avec le nom issu de la BAN et dépourvu de code

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Le 20/03/2023 à 19:02, leni a écrit : > Le 15/03/2023 à 07:50, Cyrille37 OSM a écrit : >> Bonjour, >> >> On 15/03/2023 01:29, Marc_marc wrote: >>> je propose l'édition de masse suivante : >>> remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no >>> sur les objets way ayant un tag highway >>> en France

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Le 15/03/2023 à 07:50, Cyrille37 OSM a écrit : Bonjour, On 15/03/2023 01:29, Marc_marc wrote: je propose l'édition de masse suivante : remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no sur les objets way ayant un tag highway en France ... Avis ? Positif. Let's go :-) Cyrille37. D'accord pour

[OSM-talk-fr] Pifomètre la même route arrive différemment via FANTOIR et via la BAN

Bonjour Sur Brocas https://bano.openstreetmap.fr/pifometre/index.html#insee=40056=1 dans Pifomètre je retrouve : - la "Route de Bélis" (départementale 153) présente dans la BAN avec 4 points adresse - "CD 153 DE BROCAS A BELLIS" avec le FANTOIR 400560011N J'ai rajouté à la relation

[OSM-talk-fr] State of the Map France 2023 : appel à propositions!

Bonjour à tous-tes, La 9è conférence annuelle organisée par OpenStreetMap France se déroulera du 09 au 11 juin à Marseille (13), sur le campus Staps de Luminy. Cette conférence est ce que nous en faisons mais aussi et surtout ce que vous en faites ! Ce sont en effet vos propositions qui vont

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 660 2023-03-07-2023-03-13

Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 660 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/16378/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #660 2023-03-07-2023-03-13

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 660, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/16378 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

J’approuve ce changement > Le 15 mars 2023 à 12:05, Marc_marc a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Le 15.03.23 à 09:56, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >> C'est un tag fréquent: taginfo 200k >> Pourquoi l'éliminer en France ? > > parce qu'il est déprécié, incohérent > et que la valeur cohérente "no" (974k) >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Boule blanche. Le 15/03/2023 à 01:29, Marc_marc a écrit : Bonjour, je propose l'édition de masse suivante : remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no sur les objets way ayant un tag highway en France cette modification est cohérente avec le wiki, les habitudes d'osm (=no pour l'absence)

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Hello, Le 17.03.23 à 13:36, Harrison Scofield a écrit : you can be overwhelmed by the shear number of "errors" it's true, i think however the validator will only detect a douublon only if you have touched or created a duplicate, so it seems to me necessary to delete this duplicate before

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

I sure hope I am replying correctly to your reply!  To clarify two points:  Yes, the JOSM "validator" detected the duplicate Ways, both pipelines, highways and buildings which is how I discovered the issue.  Unfortunately, when you "upload", you can be overwhelmed by the shear number of "errors".  

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Mar 16, 2023, 14:54 by sainokawara.sisyp...@gmail.com: > By the way, it was extremely difficult to detect & delete these "extra" Ways > manually using JOSM. > Have you tried https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Dialog/Validator ? Have you disabled validator warnings about duplicated ways?

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Le 16.03.23 à 14:51, Harrison Scofield a écrit : it was extremely difficult to detect & delete these "extra" Ways manually using JOSM https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/5.85176/6.82890 clic edit with josm in josm, open the validator pannel and run it validator output several "duplicate way"

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

I don't know the "cause/effect" but several months ago, I noticed that Ways were being "duplicated" multiple times when I used JOSM and they weren't buildings!  I could not determine whether it was at fault or when it was only for specific types of ways but I did "report" a potential problem to

[OSM-talk-fr] State of the Map France 2023

Bonjour à tous-tes, La 9è conférence annuelle organisée par OpenStreetMap France se déroulera du 09 au 11 juin à Marseille (13), sur le campus Staps à Luminy. Faites tourner l'information en attendant les inscriptions. Une solution d'hébergement via le Crous vous sera proposée. L'appel à

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

Am Mi., 15. März 2023 um 14:01 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org>: > > > > Mar 15, 2023, 10:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > I'd prefer "surface:material" compared to "material", it is in modest use > (800) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface%3Amaterial >

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

From the OSM-id list of Frederik, it is possible to query with Overpass. For the following list: id1,id2,id3,id4 -15538065,-15538064,-15538063,1137657546 I isolate negative values and query as relation, others as way. [out:xml][date:'2023-03-05T00:00:00Z']; ( way(id: 1137657546 );

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

Mar 15, 2023, 10:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > I'd prefer "surface:material" compared to "material", it is in modest use > (800) > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface%3Amaterial > because the "highway" represents not just the surface. > material represents primary material of

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Le 14.03.23 à 21:35, Pierre Béland a écrit : Hi Marc, I created a csv file available on wetranser for 7 days. in fact I was thinking about the overpass turbo query :) to test it in my area the 4 dates of edit. a fast lookup show a lot of similar timestamp but also some very old object...

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

Le 15.03.23 à 10:21, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : I'd prefer "surface:material" compared to "material", it is in modest use (800) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface%3Amaterial because the "highway" represents not just the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Bonjour, Le 15.03.23 à 09:56, Volker Schmidt a écrit : C'est un tag fréquent: taginfo 200k Pourquoi l'éliminer en France ? parce qu'il est déprécié, incohérent et que la valeur cohérente "no" (974k) est 5x plus courante. il n'y avait que StreetComplete qui avait un preset et cela a été

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

I'd prefer "surface:material" compared to "material", it is in modest use (800) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface%3Amaterial because the "highway" represents not just the surface. Generally, maybe another subtagging step like "surface:material=stone" "stone=granite" could make sense?

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

C'est un tag fréquent: taginfo 200k Pourquoi l'éliminer en France ? On Wed, 15 Mar 2023, 07:55 Cyrille37 OSM, wrote: > Bonjour, > > On 15/03/2023 01:29, Marc_marc wrote: > > je propose l'édition de masse suivante : > > remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no > > sur les objets way ayant

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Bonjour, On 15/03/2023 01:29, Marc_marc wrote: je propose l'édition de masse suivante : remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no sur les objets way ayant un tag highway en France ... Avis ? Positif. Let's go :-) Cyrille37. ___ Talk-fr mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapbox contribute ?

So "Imrove this map" does not mean anymore "Improve the OSM data used for the base map that covers 99% of my screen" ? Can you confirm this Mapbox move ? Le 14/03/2023 à 19:05, Sergey Beliamei a écrit : Hello, Christian! All POI and addresses in France are not from OSM. Mapbox follows ODbL

[OSM-talk-fr] [édition mécanique] sidewalk=none -> sidewalk=no en France

Bonjour, je propose l'édition de masse suivante : remplacement de sidewalk=none par sidewalk=no sur les objets way ayant un tag highway en France cette modification est cohérente avec le wiki, les habitudes d'osm (=no pour l'absence) et les préset de josm (iD n'a pas de preset à ce sujet et ne

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Hi Marc, I created a csv file available on wetranser for 7 days. It contains 901 quadruplets. For each line, the 4 OSM id's (similar to Frederik list) + the 4 dates of edit. See https://we.tl/t-rt9KSsZXBD The osm-id list below refers to 77 buildings (ways) with level, layer or building:part

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapbox contribute ?

Le 14/03/2023 à 19:05, Sergey Beliamei via Talk-fr a écrit : All POI and addresses in France are not from OSM. Mapbox follows ODbL and does not mix internal data with OSM. Soit on est dans la mauvaise foi, soit dans une incapacité totale de comprendre le problème. Le sujet de cette demande

[OSM-talk] proposed bot edit for surface=granite, surface=marble and similar

There is noticeable (but not very high) number of surface=granite / surface=marble and other similar tagging type of stone into surface tag. --- There was some discussion on

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapbox contribute ?

Hello, Christian! All POI and addresses in France are not from OSM. Mapbox follows ODbL and does not mix internal data with OSM. Best regards, Member of Mapbox team, Sergey Salut, Christian! Tous les POI et adresses en France ne proviennent pas d'OSM. Mapbox suit ODbL et ne mélange pas les

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Marc, I will revise and share data. First, below are the instructions to extract relations metadata with [out:csv(::changeset, ::timestamp,::user, ::type, ::id, building, highway, level, layer, 'building:part', 'building:roof')]; relation(id: 3240506, 3240507, 3240508, 3240509, 3240510,

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Le 14.03.23 à 13:45, Pierre Béland via talk a écrit : I imported the osm metadata using overpass can youu share it to avoid having to make it again :) Simple Building duplicates from the same contributor are the easy ones to correct. yes, on the condition that you can easily detect when

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

Using id's from the Frederick quadruplicate list, I imported the osm metadata using overpass. Note thate the negative values in the list represent relations. The table below shows that the majority of quadruplicate cases implicate only one contributor. Simple Building duplicates from the same

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Mapbox contribute ?

Le 13/03/2023 à 14:42, Sergey Beliamei a écrit : Hello! The clickable POIs that are seen on the map are not extracted from the OSM. Mapbox uses a variety of sources to keep POIs updated. Please bear in mind that these POIs are not associated with OSM and could be found either via search bar

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