Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say make the changes at the city admin level for these reasons. The tribal nations are viewed by the courts as territories but they tend to act more at the city[4] to county[3] COG [1] level. The squabbles feel

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-19 Thread Paul Johnson
I don't see how that's the case, the reason being that the Supreme Court has clearly ruled that tribes are above the state but semi-dependant on the fed, as far as the law is concerned. Furthermore, the state may still intervene, but has the option not to in situations where it would otherwise be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-19 Thread Paul Johnson
But, basically, what it boils down to, effectively, for us, is that tribal nations, as far as the current supreme court is concerned, views such areas as being much more analogous to Puerto Rico and Guam than as states, cities or counties. PR and Guam are subservient territories of the US, but

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Johnson
OK, given pnroman's git maps, and recent court cases, where's the problem in my proposed tagging of indian nations, overlapping states but below the US proper? On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Looks about right. So...what's the issue? On Wed, Jun 25,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Johnson
I should add that I do not intend on changing state boundaries, just mapping indian nations where I know the boundaries to lie on the ground, as higher than state, lower than the country, inside the US only, if that wasn't clear on the admin level argument. It would still be possible to render a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-18 10:53 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I should add that I do not intend on changing state boundaries, just mapping indian nations where I know the boundaries to lie on the ground, as higher than state, lower than the country, inside the US only, if that wasn't clear on the admin level