Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/10 Giacomo Boschi gwil...@email.it: Greg Troxel ha scritto:   amenity=fast_food has a lot of baggage.  In the US, that means   factory-produced not-really-food of mediocre quality that is fast and   consistent.  A family ice cream shop is definitely not fast food even if   they can

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-10 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Greg Troxel ha scritto: amenity=fast_food has a lot of baggage. In the US, that means factory-produced not-really-food of mediocre quality that is fast and consistent. A family ice cream shop is definitely not fast food even if they can serve ice cream rapidly. It seems one of those

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-10 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Giacomo Boschi gwil...@email.it wrote: ... I find that the simplest way of tagging an ice-cream shop is the cuisine tag associated with an amenity like fast food or cafe, according to circumstances. Seems reasonable to me. I generally prefer this approach of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-08 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: We should either introduces tags like craft_shop/services/office for example +1 There is already an informal proposal for craft : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft About 'office', it was already

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-08 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 And for this example would say that we have to be more specific. A ice-cafe is a cafe where you have same possibility to rest and you normally get several kinds of drinks, like coffee (maybe have a toilet). It is alright if I search for a cafe and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-08 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Pieren schrieb: About 'office', it was already discussed here and I'm ready to add a proposal on the wiki but I'm still looking for a good description (and the limits between office/shop/amenity). Then please go ahead and give the wiki user also

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-07 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:12 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: in Nashville, Tennessee, USA. If a restaurant allows alcoholic beverages to be taken off-premises, the restaurant will lose its license to sell alcohol. Wouldn't that be a restriction:alcohol=no_takeaway ? And in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 March 2010 22:26, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: And in my country, the limit of alcohol for car drivers is 0.5 mg/l of blood. So we should add a driver:max_alcohol=0.8. And, as it was suggested in another thread for maxspeed, it should be added in all highways of the country, of course.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Stefano Pallicca palli...@gmail.com wrote: [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ice_cream Use amenity=* for useful and important facilities. Use shop=* for a place selling a retail product or

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Greg Troxel ha scritto: amenity=fast_food has a lot of baggage. Question: in general, how do we tag the little specilized shops that sells only one kind of food, like kebab, hod dog, pizza, sandwiches or ice cream? -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.wordpress.com/

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Il 06/03/2010 12:42, Greg Troxel ha scritto: amenity=ice_cream (which I've tagged one of) or amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream the problem is that if someone says find me a cafe nearby, they don't want an ice cream shop. This seems to me the exact problem, and the main reason of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/6 Giacomo Boschi gwil...@email.it: Greg Troxel ha scritto:   amenity=fast_food has a lot of baggage. Question: in general, how do we tag the little specilized shops that sells only one kind of food, like kebab, hod dog, pizza, sandwiches or ice cream? It depends what and how they

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: It depends what and how they sell. It *always* depends! :-) If they sell hot dog, burgers or kebab, I'd tag it fast food (or maybe in special cases restaurant). If they sell pizza, it depends what kind of pizza (sliced pizza mainly for taking away would

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Giacomo Boschi gwil...@email.it Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:36:43 To: Openstreetmap talktalk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream) Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/3/6 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: The dine-in vs. takeaway distinction can be a bit blurred.  I have seen some small ice-cream establishments that seem to be about half dine-in and half carry-out. I use food:takeaway=yes for this. Btw., I use in addition food:taste=sweet but

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: I use food:takeaway=yes I like the food: prefix, just in case someone could interpret takeaway=yes for something else like the furnitures, dishes or the waitress ;-) Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 04:40:38 To: Pierenpier...@gmail.com Cc: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap talk mailing listtalk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 March 2010 13:59, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Actually, the theoretical situation you described (food to be either eaten on the premises or carried out, but alcohol for on-premises consumption only) is the actual situation for restaurants here in Nashville, Tennessee,

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-05 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Main page here: [1] Already discussed one year ago, we didn't come to a standardization of the tag used to describe shops selling ice creams = proliferation of different tags today [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ice_cream signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-05 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Roy Wallace ha scritto: Use amenity=* for useful and important facilities. Use shop=* for a place selling a retail product or service It could be a sensible proposal, but at present state the shops where you can sit and eat (or even the take-away shops) are all tagged as amenity. The problem