Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
> And we took the decision to use this info > to spot rapidly the populated areas. «Take time» to look at these > polygons one by one  (we did) and you will see that they reflect > adequately the density of housing in these areas. No, they don't (at least not for any meaningful definition of

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 16 August 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > In a way, it's what we did in Western Europe when we only had Landsat > imagery: "Uh, this looks like a settlement, let's draw a grey blob" Absolutely not. The settlement structure of Western Europe can be pretty accurately mapped from

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Pierre Béland
Claire who added these polygons  is a resident of DR Congo. She coordinated with me the North-Kivu OSM Response in 2012, coordinating with the UN agencies and NGO's in Kinshasa.  She is coordinator of OSM-DRC and coordinator of this OSM Response for the Ebola outbreak around Beni, working

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 16.08.2018 09:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61401087 Btw I have commented on this changeset. Apparently the main use case is having a general indication of "there are people living here". In a way, it's what we did in Western Europe when we only

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/08/2018 12:35, Rory McCann wrote: What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) less contentious (since a building is a building is a

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 16 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset > comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight > up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) > less contentious (since a building is a

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Rory McCann
What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) less contentious (since a building is a building is a building), and (ii) more accurate for

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: > > Satellite imagery is available for the world.. > But how much do you know of Africa? > [...] You maybe don't realize that but the kind of data garbage i pointed to is the direct result of projecting ideas and experiences of settlement structures of

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 19:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those outlines.

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: > > As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not > challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those outlines. The good thing about verifiability and

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 17:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: > Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet > been mapped. > > If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster > of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull them into JOSM > and map them as

[OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-15 Thread john whelan
Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull them into JOSM and map them as places, landuse=residential, village or whatever. Thoughts?