Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/7 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com In some cases, address interpolation may produce addresses that don't exist on the ground. My parents lived for years on a street that has several sharp turns. In order to keep the addresses more-or-less in sync between the two sides of the

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/7 Jo winfi...@gmail.com But how do you propose to count those? There might be numbers missing in the sequence or there might be 4A, 4B, 4C, etc in between. 2 and 6. At least such discrepancies are possible in Belgium. I try to remove those discrepancies as much as possible, but I

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 06.01.2013 16:11, schrieb Janko Mihelić: What about addr:interpolation? Do you count all the housenumbers in between, or only the ones on the ends? I think all should be counted. And not because I use those a lot :) -1 address interpolations are exactly that: interpolations. Often you find

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread Christian Quest
Regarding housenumbers, I'm trying to render them with only the ones around street corners at some zoom level. It is not obvious and almost impossible with a standard osm2pgsql schema. It looks like some db/osmosis schema is necessary for such complex postgis queries. Anyone tried something in

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 01/07/2013 02:48 PM, Christian Quest wrote: Regarding housenumbers, I'm trying to render them with only the ones around street corners at some zoom level. You could try to make a layer that returns the house number plus the count of highway=residential ways within n metres of the

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: What about addr:interpolation? Do you count all the housenumbers in between, or only the ones on the ends? I think all should be counted. And not because I use those a lot :) Janko (1373) Mihelić

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
What about addr:interpolation? Do you count all the housenumbers in between, or only the ones on the ends? I think all should be counted. And not because I use those a lot :) Janko (1373) Mihelić ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-05 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/12/12 22:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hey girls and guys. The number seem to be OK for me. I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award the count to

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-05 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 12-12-30 22:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: It would be great if you could find your name on the list and do a quick sanity check in your head whether this looks right or not. Maybe you should explain the meaning? No, the numbers don't look right when I see -7 for me - I moved some house number

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-02 Thread Gregory
It says I've mapped 7232. I expect I've done around 100 streets, so that works fine. But what's my rank? Extra points for postcodes (although often I leave these to the related street), relations with street(s), and building outlines? This list might encourage me to get some more, although more

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Gregory writes: It says I've mapped 7232. I expect I've done around 100 streets, so that works fine. But what's my rank? WHERE ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE FINDING ALL THESE HOUSES?? I'VE ADDRESSED EVERY HOUSE WITH AN HOUR'S BICYCLE RIDE OF MY HOUSE AND I'VE ONLY GOTTEN TO 932. I feel like I can't

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-02 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
On 02/01/13 15:31, Russ Nelson wrote: Gregory writes: It says I've mapped 7232. I expect I've done around 100 streets, so that works fine. But what's my rank? WHERE ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE FINDING ALL THESE HOUSES?? I'VE ADDRESSED EVERY HOUSE WITH AN HOUR'S BICYCLE RIDE OF MY HOUSE AND

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2013-01-02 Thread Gregory
On 2 January 2013 15:31, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Gregory writes: It says I've mapped 7232. I expect I've done around 100 streets, so that works fine. But what's my rank? WHERE ARE ALL YOU PEOPLE FINDING ALL THESE HOUSES?? I'VE ADDRESSED EVERY HOUSE WITH AN HOUR'S BICYCLE

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-31 Thread Gehling Marc
Hi, Am 30.12.2012 um 22:53 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they should be awarded a prize! A further ~ 1400 have done between 1k and 10k numbers,

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-31 Thread Ed Loach
According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they should be awarded a prize! While I'm surprised that my entry is as high as it is, it is entirely possible that I've added almost 40,000 house numbers

[OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award the count to the person actually adding the addr:housenumber tag. I don't yet know what will happen with this, but before I make further plans,

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
The number (10334) associated to me, Kjarrval, does seem correct. I did a lot of walks last summer and gathered a lot of housenumbers on OsmPad. Could send you the files if you want a rough verification of the number of houses. - Svavar Kjarrval On 30/12/12 21:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi,

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award the count to the person actually adding the addr:housenumber tag. I

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Craig Wallace
On 30/12/2012 21:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/housenumbers.html It would be great if you could find your name on the list and do a quick sanity check in your head whether this looks right or not. According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Hill
On 30/12/12 21:53, Frederik Ramm wrote: It would be great if you could find your name on the list and do a quick sanity check in your head whether this looks right or not. The numbers for me look about right. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Steve Chilton
, December 30, 2012 9:53 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] House Numbers Hi, I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly award the count to the person actually adding the addr:housenumber tag. I

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Jo
I did my own analysis for housenumbers in Belgium, but that only took the last person who touched the object into account. The numbers look in the right ballpark for the people I verified. The real algorithm should be: the last person who added the housenumber the object has in the latest version.

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread nicholas ingalls
6137 Looks good for me. I collect a *lot* of addresses simply by walking. Cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has added. It uses object history, so it should be able

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Jeff Meyer
Frederik - Very cool! My numbers look about right. (probably exactly right. ; ) ) Thanks, Jeff On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM, nicholas ingalls nicholas.inga...@gmail.com wrote: 6137 Looks good for me. I collect a *lot* of addresses simply by walking. Cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 30,

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they should be awarded a prize! A further ~ 1400 have done between 1k and 10k numbers, and ~ 4600 have done between 100 and 1k

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Frederik, Am Sonntag, den 30.12.2012, 22:53 +0100 schrieb Frederik Ramm: It is quite possible that the program has bugs so if you notice something strange, do mention it. o.k. I'm at the bottom of the list: -680 werner2101 What does the negative number mean? I've not mapped many

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Werner Hoch [mailto:werner...@gmx.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers That one looks strange to: 3490 OSMF Redaction Account I don't think that the redaction bot actively mapped adresses. I'd expect the redaction bot has mapped zero adresses. In certain scenarios

[OSM-talk] House numbers

2012-12-21 Thread Roland Olbricht
Dear all, house numbers are one of the areas where in OSM a lot of things are still to do even in well mapped regions. To support mapping efforts, there are two new tools available http://overpass-api.de/api/hausnummern shows the already existing house numbers. This allows to plan the next

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers, new zealand style

2011-07-08 Thread colliar
Am 08.07.2011 04:59, schrieb Richard Weait: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i'm currently adding house numbers to some properties in my locality (and using this to prepare for an import). the problem is this: some blocks of houses have both a

[OSM-talk] house numbers, new zealand style

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Paulson
i'm currently adding house numbers to some properties in my locality (and using this to prepare for an import). the problem is this: some blocks of houses have both a street address and a unit number. so we might have the situation of 12/8 mount eden road, auckland which means: property number

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers, new zealand style

2011-07-07 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: i'm currently adding house numbers to some properties in my locality (and using this to prepare for an import). the problem is this: some blocks of houses have both a street address and a unit number. so we might

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers was [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-05 Thread edodd
Absolutely, and we will... in fact, I'm working on it right now. I just thought it was worth making the point that housenumbers are (in my humble opinion) key to enabling many wider applications of map data. Cheers b i've been putting in some odd numbers if i am tagging or shop or office

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Jochen Topf
Maybe some words about how the whole house number stuff in Karlsruhe came about, will help understand, what we had in mind: We looked at the different proposals and saw that there was a difficult problem that had gotten stuck. Many ideas, but no progress. But it needed to be addressed, because

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Jul 29, 2008, at 00:40, Karl Newman wrote: Don't overestimate the usage of the current data scheme, though. The Germans are prolific mappers, but I would be surprised if there are even a few thousand addresses entered in the current format, if that. According to tagwatch, around 2

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I once had a look at the Karlsruhe Schema and i found it ugly from a technical point of view. In my world one wants explicit links between two objects but the proposal simply draws points or polygons next to something which is not a explicit link. That's correct. Many people seem to

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tagging house numbers onto intersections or ways is just a lame workaround employed by many existing data sets because they can't model every single house. I have absolutely zero doubt that sooner or later, OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: Sent: 29 July 2008 11:33 AM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion On Tue, 2008-07-29 12:02:34 +0200, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tagging house numbers onto intersections or ways is just a lame workaround

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The reason I don't like ideas like this is that the data you are adding to the way (or as Frederik pointed out possibly also the intersections) is not actually anything to do with the physical

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node with the way (what's a

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Karl Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 29 July 2008 6:17 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Jan-Benedict Glaw; Frederik Ramm; talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Karl Newman wrote: Sent: 29 July 2008 6:48 PM To: Jochen Topf Cc: talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: To be clear, I

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-29 Thread Thorsten Feles
Jochen Topf schrieb: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:16:33AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote: To be clear, I don't have a problem with tagging the actual location of the house or building. I think it's unnecessary, but the problem I have with the scheme is that it doesn't definitively link the node with

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-28 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm wrote: | Hi, | | I really have a problem with this 'way' linking address nodes in the | Karlsruhe schema. We know that the relation has been created for that. | This 'way' is just here because some people do not know (or don't want | to

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-28 Thread Charlie Echo
Juillet 2008 17:48:54 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm wrote: | Hi, | | I really have a problem with this 'way' linking address nodes

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-28 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Charlie Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If things are clear, and if there is a consensus about using this Karlsruhe schema, let's have a vote on it. This will make things easier: we would then have a clean situation. This would enable people to enter the data.

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-28 Thread Douglas Furlong
With the current scheme how would one numbering blocks of flats? there is no explicit allowance in the current scheme as far as i can see. On 7/28/08, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Charlie Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If things are clear, and if there

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 25 July 2008 6:13 PM To: Charlie Echo Cc: talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion Hi, I added one suggestion to the House Numbers page. It's the eighth one. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers I find

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that very confusing. I'm using the Karlsruhe Schema http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House_numbers Ok, I've looked at this and I'm missing the case where a building has a number of street

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-25 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the Karlsruhe Schema These interpolation rules are explicitly modeled as a new way connecting the nodes, which may look a but unusual at first but (a) it's going to go away once editors learn how to dim these

Re: [OSM-talk] House numbers... One more suggestion

2008-07-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I really have a problem with this 'way' linking address nodes in the Karlsruhe schema. We know that the relation has been created for that. This 'way' is just here because some people do not know (or don't want to know) how to use relations in the editors. Then use a relation

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: A completely different (and quite OSM-like!) option is dropping all this complex logic, left-right-blah tagging, number schemes, relations and all, and just put simple nodes: This is B street

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Martijn van Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitfalls include: * what if way direction is reversed? * what if way is extended, merged, split? That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with strong editor support, but that does not

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, * what if way direction is reversed? * what if way is extended, merged, split? That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with strong editor support, but that does not fix the intrinsic flaw. You never know when a script comes around that reverses direction for

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: A completely different (and quite OSM-like!) option is dropping all this complex logic, left-right-blah

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * what if way direction is reversed? * what if way is extended, merged, split? That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with strong editor support, but that does not fix the intrinsic

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, As you can see, I employ four tags to indicate house number ranges: * houseno:left-min * houseno:left-max * houseno:left-scheme * houseno:right-min * houseno:right-max * houseno:right-scheme Left and right are relative to the direction if the way. Min is the first house number on

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A completely different (and quite OSM-like!) option is dropping all this complex logic, left-right-blah tagging, number schemes, relations and all, and just put simple nodes: This is B street number 25. This brings

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 17 April 2008 1:00 PM To: Martijn van Exel Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited Hi, As you can see, I employ four tags to indicate house number ranges: * houseno:left-min * houseno:left-max * houseno:left-scheme * houseno:right

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Op 17 apr 2008, om 14:00 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschreven: Hi, As you can see, I employ four tags to indicate house number ranges: * houseno:left-min * houseno:left-max * houseno:left-scheme * houseno:right-min * houseno:right-max * houseno:right-scheme Left and right are