Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-06-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: - I had no internet connectivity in that situation, hence wikidata, any other external database or even non-copied OSM data was not an option. If wikidata is mined for it's rich database of names, that data can

[OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi, first of all, I appreciate the ongoing work of the DWG in general and Fredrik in particular to detect, discuss, and handle mass edits resembling mechanical edits. I will get to them in a separate thread. What I would not support in OSM, and like to outsource to Wikidata or other, is if

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/30/2015 08:59 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Please note that - I had no internet connectivity in that situation, hence wikidata, any other external database or even non-copied OSM data was not an option. Well: The data on your device will most certainly have been preprocessed; you

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Johan C
2015-05-30 8:59 GMT+02:00 Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de: Hi, first of all, I appreciate the ongoing work of the DWG in general and Fredrik in particular to detect, discuss, and handle mass edits resembling mechanical edits. I will get to them in a separate thread. What I would

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Warin
On 30/05/2015 6:00 PM, Johan C wrote: The values used in the destination tag (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination) should always display the exact name as it is shown on the signpost When the 'name on the signpost' changes along the way, or by the direction of travel

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 11:05 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote: On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good approximation of home in this case is name=Köln. Actually, I found a street sign (150 km away from Köln) that reads

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 20:17 +1000, Warin wrote: On 30/05/2015 6:00 PM, Johan C wrote: The values used in the destination tag (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination) should always display the exact name as it is shown on the signpost I guess it adds verification that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Roland, replies in-line On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Luckily, in the offline database on my device, the object with name=Köln had a tag name:nl=Keulen. So I know that the sign is referring to my desired destination. Depending on the device

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 30 May 2015, Frederik Ramm wrote: Whoever does the preprocessing is of course free to join OSM data with any other database; so if for example we agreed that Wikidata was our name repository of choice and we'd reduce our own name:xx tagging to what is used by the people living in

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread SomeoneElse
On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good approximation of home in this case is name=Köln. Actually, I found a street sign (150 km away from Köln) that reads Keulen. Should I have followed it or not? A name:xx

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Jo
Another confusing one is Aachen. Depending in which language region of Belgium you are it will be Aken or Aix-la-Chapelle. Anyway, I'm also in favor of keeping most of the name:XX tags + a wikidata Q-number, of course. That's not the kind of redundancy I'm afraid of. In fact it's the kind of