Sam Vekemans wrote:
Hi all,1st off I got the page set up better now :)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoothness%3Dgood
BTW The page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
and the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features/Smoothness
should actually be
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 04:07:37AM +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote:
It's a *lot* easier to navigate through 20 or more subpages than to
read/search in exactly one page?!?
When it takes about a minute for the page to load, yes, I may as well
just do a search on the wiki since I’d get a response in a
Hi all,1st off I got the page set up better now :)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoothness%3Dgood
BTW The page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
and the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features/Smoothness
should actually be merged, as the page ALSO lists
Hi all,1st off I got the page set up better now :)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoothness%3Dgood
BTW The page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
and the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features/Smoothness
should actually be merged, as the page ALSO lists
Should we have a page detailed mapping of roads or
something similar? Could be useful, imho, for
traffic_calming, service, tracktype and some less used
tags like bus_guideway.
This point was distracted into a do/don't split map features. In my
opinion it would be handy to have such a page
Ulf Lamping wrote:
I guess you want to missunderstand this tag.
The tag name should be descriptive. If there's widespread misunderstanding,
then the tag was misnamed. (And besides, the wheeled point still doesn't
address that what's good for an MTB is bad for a tourer.)
Do you know a *walker*
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Sent: 02 February 2009 03:24
To: Mike Harris
Cc: 'Sam Vekemans'; talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Mike Harris schrieb:
... And by the way ... Does 'good' mean:
I guess you want to missunderstand this tag.
Good for a motorcar? (I know of local unclassified (OS yellow
address!)
Mike Harris
-Original Message-
From: Sam Vekemans [mailto:acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 February 2009 06:12
To: Ulf Lamping
Cc: Mike Harris; talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Ya, im working on the wiki smoothness=good
Mike was just just giving
Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk writes:
2009/2/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Ulf Lamping wrote:
Yes, if it would use descriptive terms it might solve some
problems. But if you think of a better solution it gets really
difficult to find better terms thats aimed towards
Matthias Julius wrote:
Suitability sounds a bit more fitting than smoothness.
And one could put the type of vehicle into the value like
'suitability=horse:good;mountainbike:bad;racebike:impossible' or
something like that.
That déjà vu feeling all over again.
Quite like the idea of
Richard Fairhurst schrieb:
Ulf Lamping wrote:
I guess you want to missunderstand this tag.
The tag name should be descriptive. If there's widespread misunderstanding,
then the tag was misnamed. (And besides, the wheeled point still doesn't
address that what's good for an MTB is bad for a
Ulf Lamping wrote:
Yes, if it would use descriptive terms it might solve some
problems. But if you think of a better solution it gets really
difficult to find better terms thats aimed towards something.
smoothness:vehicle would make sense to me. But, you know, water under
the bridge and
: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Mike Harris schrieb:
Sam
Thanks - I don't feel quite so bad now after reading your response ...
Ulf
I think Sam makes much the point that I failed to explain properly.
Forlåt että jag förstår inte .. (or should that be Entschuldingungen
daß ich nicht richtig
2009/2/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Ulf Lamping wrote:
Yes, if it would use descriptive terms it might solve some
problems. But if you think of a better solution it gets really
difficult to find better terms thats aimed towards something.
smoothness:vehicle would make sense to
than a description per se of the surface.
Mike Harris
-Original Message-
From: Matthias Julius [mailto:li...@julius-net.net]
Sent: 02 February 2009 16:23
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk writes:
2009/2/2 Richard
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From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk]
Sent: 01 February 2009 00:40
To: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Key:smoothness
Good means different things to different users. A racing cyclist, touring
cyclist, and trail/mtb cyclist will all have difference views
Shaun McDonald wrote:
Good means different things to different users. A racing cyclist,
touring cyclist, and trail/mtb cyclist will all have difference views.
These will be even more different to a wheelchair user, hiker, 4x4
vehicle driver, smart car driver, and a tractor driver. More
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Sam Vekemans
acrosscanadatra...@gmail.comwrote:
I think the page needs to be put back to the regular map features standard.
I disagree.
There are a number of features listed as approved without being on map
features. This should alse be tha case for
2009/2/1 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Good means different things to different users. A racing cyclist,
touring cyclist, and trail/mtb cyclist will all have difference views.
Could the tag smoothness be replaced by an attribute on cycle routes
indicating what bikes the route is
Hi,
There are a number of features listed as approved without being on map
features. This should alse be tha case for smoothness, as long as:
I disagree.
A tag should be IMHO on the feature page as long as it's potential use covers
a lot of object in the database where a lot of mapper might
On 1 Feb 2009, at 14:43, sylvain letuffe wrote:
That tag is now used 5 times in europe, for the simple reason
that it was
found usefull by people.
Smoothness is used 2356 times according to tagwatch at:
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html
It is crazy to base a tag's
Smoothness is used 2356 times according to tagwatch at:
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html
Now it's :
gis=# select count(*) from planet_osm_line where smoothness!='';
count
---
2693
I have entered more than 10 benches! According to tagwatch there are
8433 benches in
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:43 PM, sylvain letuffe li...@letuffe.org wrote:
A tag should be IMHO on the feature page as long as it's potential use
covers
a lot of object in the database where a lot of mapper might be in touch
with.
Should we have a page detailed mapping of roads or something
Should we have a page detailed mapping of roads or something similar?
Could be useful, imho, for traffic_calming, service, tracktype and some
less used tags like bus_guideway.
This idea looks like the idea of splitting the map feature page
into thematic categories.
Something I totally agree
sylvain letuffe schrieb:
Should we have a page detailed mapping of roads or something similar?
Could be useful, imho, for traffic_calming, service, tracktype and some
less used tags like bus_guideway.
This idea looks like the idea of splitting the map feature page
into thematic categories.
Mike Harris schrieb:
... And by the way ... Does 'good' mean:
I guess you want to missunderstand this tag.
Good for a motorcar? (I know of local unclassified (OS yellow roads) that
cannot be driven except in a 4WD (some appear on my TomTom even).
Good for a horse and cart? (All Restricted
Ya, im working on the wiki smoothness=good
Mike was just just giving examples.
:-) it should be ready for the peanut gallary in the next few days.
Btw: A horse buggie has wheels.
Kids shoes can contain 'healies' (wheels in heal of shoe) ;-)
im using the explaination that; good is a subjective
I think the page needs to be put back to the regular map features standard.
English is an odd language. There are many acceptions to the rule.
This is one of them.
Technically, this tag follows the rule of {{tag|key|value}} where
'excellant', 'good', 'bad', 'horrible'. Are all descriptives of
Good means different things to different users. A racing cyclist,
touring cyclist, and trail/mtb cyclist will all have difference views.
These will be even more different to a wheelchair user, hiker, 4x4
vehicle driver, smart car driver, and a tractor driver. More
importantly take any one
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