* Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com [2011-01-03 22:19 -0500]:
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes:
this is why i suggested adding a centroid tag to the boundary relations
as a way to convey the place that is by convention considered the
center of town.
The word centroid seems best
The boundary relation[0] has roles for both admin_centre and label, though
I don't know how many renderers are using them currently. For some
reason, a lot of places (including the US) seem to have standardized on
using multipolygons instead of boundary relations for administrative
boundaries.
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:50:16PM +, Shaun McDonald wrote:
so should we be
1) adding explicit info to ways about town/county
No, that causes huge amounts of duplicate info that is difficult to update.
or
2) fixing county town boundary relations
This is much better.
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
Having a node to indicate the center of a town/city/... can be
useful too, even if you already have a boundary for it.
It seems like duplicate information to me.
On 1/3/11 6:25 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Roeckxk...@roeckx.be wrote:
Having a node to indicate the center of a town/city/... can be
useful too, even if you already have a boundary for it.
It seems
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes:
what i see a bit right now in the US are places where we have
a central node from one import and a boundary with the same
name from another, and as a result two names showing up.
it's mildly annoying.
That may be true but Kurt is right.For
On 4 January 2011 00:25, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
Having a node to indicate the center of a town/city/... can be
useful too, even if you already have a
On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net writes:
what i see a bit right now in the US are places where we have
a central node from one import and a boundary with the same
name from another, and as a result two names showing up.
it's mildly annoying.
That may
On 4 January 2011 04:10, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 January 2011 00:25, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Toby Murray wrote:
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote:
Having a node to indicate the center
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes:
On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net writes:
That may be true but Kurt is right.For most towns in New England
there is a polygon for the boundary, and then a specific place, often an
intersection or a
government.
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places
From :mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net
Date :Mon Jan 03 21:12:16 America/Chicago 2011
On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net writes:
what i see a bit right now in the US
On 1/1/11 11:34 PM, Anthony wrote:
what i still don't get is how it figures out the correct zip code of
12018
for the displayed result string, i guess there's some research to be
done yet.
I've back ported some code from the new version a couple of weeks back
which tries to improve postcode
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in the
database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, and that
Nominatim is using the values from the nearest noses that have those tags
filled in.
On 1 Jan 2011, at 17:07, Richard Welty wrote:
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in the
database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name, and
that Nominatim is using the values from the
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in
the database may not have any values tagged for town name and county name,
and that Nominatim
On 1/1/11 12:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
My guess (without having run a query) is that the Biitig Road entries in
the database may not have any values tagged for town name and
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 1/1/11 12:59 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net
wrote:
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
My guess (without having run a query) is that the
On 1/1/11 1:43 PM, Anthony wrote:
It looks to me like the core database is correct. Biittig Road
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5629489) is not in Averill
Park (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/175579).
ok, i didn't think i need to cover this.
the name Averill Park has
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 1/1/11 1:43 PM, Anthony wrote:
It looks to me like the core database is correct. Biittig Road
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5629489) is not in Averill
Park
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
3) there's a post office, which delivers to a Very Large Area, much
larger than the boundaries of the CDP. the actual postal addressing
is what people going
i'm not getting a strong sense of an architecture for getting this
data into Nominatim in a useful way, just a bundle of opinions
about specific details.
it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that
noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the
Nominatim stuff i
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
but i did find a workaround. i added
is_in=Averill Park, NY, US
to Biittig Road
Which is incorrect. Biittig Road is not in Averill Park.
Just like Linkwood Ave is not in Tampa, Florida. And Altair Drive is
not in
it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that
noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the
Hi. Yes, I've been off doing new year type things. I'm playing
catchup on my email now - and I've still got a hangover so please
accept my apologies if anything is
I agree. Don't forget it is the holiday and people take more time to reply.
What would be nice from Nominatim point of view is the creation of a page
where you would enter your test cases and what you expect. That would allow
the developer of nominatim to include those in his test suite.
It
On 1/1/11 7:54 PM, Brian Quinion wrote:
it's not really leading anywhere, in part due to the fact that
noone from Nominatim has spoken up. i did just review the
Hi. Yes, I've been off doing new year type things. I'm playing
catchup on my email now - and I've still got a hangover so please
what i still don't get is how it figures out the correct zip code of
12018
for the displayed result string, i guess there's some research to be
done yet.
I've back ported some code from the new version a couple of weeks back
which tries to improve postcode handling for addresses but this is
On 1/1/11 2:32 PM, Anthony wrote:
Yes, and that's something that definitely does *not* belong in OSM.
If Nominatim wants to do this sort of lookup (and it probably should),
the shapefiles can be downloaded here
(http://www.census.gov/geo/ZCTA/zcta.html).
i opened up the local one and checked
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 23:34 -0500, Anthony wrote:
This only gives one of the possibly many acceptable city names for a
zip code (e.g. for 12205 it gives ROESSLEVILLE). A zip can have more
than one acceptable city name. See
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown_zip.jsp
For geocoding, you
[this got no response on talk-us, so i'm trying talk]
i'm trying to understand some of what's going on with Nominatim and
US places.
specifically, in trying to look up a local road name here in NY, i'm curious
about why Nominatim does what it does, and whether there are changes
that need to be
I raised the issue of Canadian post code support some time ago and some
changes appear to have been made to Nominatim to use a North American site
for Canadian post code and I think for the full US postal services Zip code.
Try a long US zip code and see what happens.
Cheerio John
On 30
] Nominatim US places
From :mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net
Date :Thu Dec 30 14:33:30 America/Chicago 2010
[this got no response on talk-us, so i'm trying talk]
i'm trying to understand some of what's going on with Nominatim and
US places.
specifically, in trying to look up a local road name
On 30/12/2010 20:33, Richard Welty wrote:
Unclassified RoadBiittig Road, Sliters, Saratoga, 12018, ニューヨーク州,
United States of America
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-73.6051635742188minlat=42.612548828125maxlon=-73.5850830078125maxlat=42.6175994873047
I'm not at all clear on why Saratoga
On 12/30/10 5:09 PM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote:
I'm not involved in Nominatim, but some comments anyway:
You can go to this page and search for a place:
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/
In the results, click the little link for Details, which will give
more details of how
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