Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2015-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-12-31 11:18 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: I found a better example, amenity=place_of_worship + religion=christian that is Q16970 (Church (building)). that would be building=church in osm (amenity=place of worship is not only about buildings, it is also about other

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-12-31 0:26 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: the combination of amenity=restaurant and cuisine=fastfood seems pointless to me, fastfood is not a reasonable cuisine type when you look how cuisine is used in osm (and fwiw, there are only 12 occurences of cuisine=fastfood

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-12-30 2:06 GMT+01:00 Kolossos t...@alder-digital.de: Perhaps you have a better example to let me re-think this topic. cuisine=fastfood is only used 12 times [2]. For example bike paths (Q221722), highway=path + bicycle=designated + foot=designated + segregated=yes Wind turbine

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Kolossos
Ok, lets take the second example of Wind turbines: power=generator + generator:source=wind The first tag power=generator is a more general tag and you have the specific tag generator:source=wind. For the second tag you have a Wiki page:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ok, you found a way to go around power=generator, but that's just a loophole. How would you go around highway=path+bicycle=designated+foot=designated+segregated=yes? If you leave out just one of those tags, it changes the resulting meaning. What's your solution? Just leave out Q221722 altogether?

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 02:06 +0100, Kolossos wrote: I would like to keep it as simple as possible and I don't want to replace the OSM-Wiki where all usefull combinations of tags are described. You would not only destroy the URL to the OSM-Wiki you would also damage the format checking tools

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 12/30/2014 03:00 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 02:06 +0100, Kolossos wrote: I would like to keep it as simple as possible and I don't want to replace the OSM-Wiki where all usefull combinations of tags are described. You would not only destroy the URL to the OSM-Wiki you

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
Very interesting project! Keep it up, I might come and help you. What if you add more tags in Wikidata? Does that mean that an object in OSM needs to have all those tags, or just one of them? Is it an AND or an OR? For example, in Wikidata you have an element Fastfood restaurants (Q1751429). How

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Kolossos
It's possible to build 1:n and n:1 relations. That means amenity=marketplace links to 2 Wikidata entries Q330284 (marketplace) and Q132510 (streetmarket). In the other direction power=minor_line and power=line are linking both to Q2144320 (Overhead power line). It's in both cases a OR-connection.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-12-29 12:26 GMT+01:00 Kolossos t...@alder-digital.de: It's possible to build 1:n and n:1 relations. That means amenity=marketplace links to 2 Wikidata entries Q330284 (marketplace) and Q132510 (streetmarket). In the other direction power=minor_line and power=line are linking both to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 December 2014 at 22:33, Kolossos t...@alder-digital.de wrote: I work the last weeks to bring the OSM-tagging to Wikidata, by using: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1282 Great work, thank you! I have enabled tagging in the reverse direction, like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Andreas Goss
I think I got the value template working... no idea how. Maybe someone else did something at the same time -_- Might depend on the position of the |wikidata= line in the template. Maybe you could have a look. Also {{!}}- class{{=}}'d_wikidata content' was missing the content part. Someone

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Kolossos
I'm also a little bit sceptical to handle such data twice, my hope was to use Taginfo-integration to bring the data to the osm-wiki. I think together with a little js-script like qlable [1] we would be able to provide translations in different language, but for a search in the wiki it would not

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-29 Thread Kolossos
I would like to keep it as simple as possible and I don't want to replace the OSM-Wiki where all usefull combinations of tags are described. You would not only destroy the URL to the OSM-Wiki you would also damage the format checking tools that we have in Wikidata[1]. Perhaps you have a better

[OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-28 Thread Kolossos
Hello, I work the last weeks to bring the OSM-tagging to Wikidata, by using: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1282 I work through the Map features-site from top to down. (It was a funny job to find right Wikipedia-articles.) Not in all cases it was possible to find a right matching.