Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi, On 21 Apr 2008, at 22:24, Martijn van Exel wrote: Op 21 apr 2008, om 22:46 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschreven: Hi, Hi Frederik, for an upcoming OSM booth we have the offer of a local Apple dealer to supply us with all the hardware we want (including 30+ displays and all).

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Dair Grant
Frederik Ramm wrote: How would a native Mac application deal with wanting to let the user drag the map and at the same time wanting to let him draw a selection rectangle? Would they have one drag mode and one select mode then, or a modifier key for one of the two actions? A selection tool

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Where is this show? It's the LinuxTag in Berlin, end of May. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/4/22 Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zooming without a wheel mouse is a bit awkward because the zoom slider is too short - a small movement makes a big difference. It would be nice to increase it's length - possible even put it vertically along the whole height of the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Apr 2008, at 11:52, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: [...] My question to the Mac users out there: Will those Macs be suitable for demonstrating all important aspects of OSM, i.e. * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari, always loading tiles for

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: Right click in flash only brings up a system menu for Adobe Flash settings and about the flash plugin. I believe that developers cannot use the right click in flash. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). Happy to oblige. :) You can customise the right-click menu from

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm using this post to address a number of things that others have said as well: Ubuntu Live CDs end to work on these. That would be one option. Although Mac OSX works fine. The Macs come from an Apple store who will have a certain interest in showing off their product. This

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Apr 2008, at 12:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: [...] Ok I'm now convinced that I can use the Macs. Brilliant. Someone said that zooming in JOSM is a pain sometimes; I just want to point out that you can zoom in increments with Ctrl-, and Ctrl-. (comma and decimal point). Useful, though

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I am quite confused now about dragging the map. Many have said that using the mouse with JOSM on the Macs does not work very well. But then I am told you can use Ctrl rightclick simulation to do the dragging, and others again say that some applications would use the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Dermot McNally
2008/4/22 Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am quite confused now about dragging the map. Many have said that using the mouse with JOSM on the Macs does not work very well. But then I am told you can use Ctrl rightclick simulation to do the dragging, and others again say that some

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-22 Thread Gerald A
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am quite confused now about dragging the map. Many have said that using the mouse with JOSM on the Macs does not work very well. But then I am told you can use Ctrl rightclick simulation to do the dragging, and others

[OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, for an upcoming OSM booth we have the offer of a local Apple dealer to supply us with all the hardware we want (including 30+ displays and all). These would, however, be out-of-the-box Macs with those funny keyboards and those mice without buttons you know... and they wouldn't even let us

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:46:53PM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: My question to the Mac users out there: Will those Macs be suitable for demonstrating all important aspects of OSM, i.e. * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari, always loading tiles for all layers

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Dermot McNally
On 21/04/2008, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question to the Mac users out there: Will those Macs be suitable for demonstrating all important aspects of OSM, i.e. Yes, IMHO, but see below: * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari, always loading tiles

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Jones
On 21 Apr 2008, at 21:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: My question to the Mac users out there: Will those Macs be suitable for demonstrating all important aspects of OSM, i.e. * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari, always loading tiles for all layers instead of current

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Christopher Schmidt wrote: * JOSM (especially concerned about usability with 1 button mouse) This is likely your sticking point. The inability to drag the map is a real killer on JOSM, and I'm not aware of any decent ways of working around it within the java on mac. (I do a *lot* of zooming

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, * JOSM (especially concerned about usability with 1 button mouse) This is likely your sticking point. The inability to drag the map is a real killer on JOSM, and I'm not aware of any decent ways of working around it within the java on mac. (I do a *lot* of zooming in and out, and use

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Martijn van Exel
Op 21 apr 2008, om 22:46 heeft Frederik Ramm het volgende geschreven: Hi, Hi Frederik, for an upcoming OSM booth we have the offer of a local Apple dealer to supply us with all the hardware we want (including 30+ displays and all). These would, however, be out-of-the-box Macs with those

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on factory Macs

2008-04-21 Thread Daniel Schmidt
Sorry for my previous, possibly confusing post. I meant so send this one... * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari, always loading tiles for all layers instead of current only?) I've been using the slippy map with Safari for several months and never had an issue.