Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-11-09 13:47, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El onsdag 9. november 2016 13.36.11 CET Craig Wallace escribió: Is it just for streets? Or can you add photos of footpaths, cyclepaths, railways, rivers etc. Or any other feature you can travel along. Why not have a name with less focus on

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Celine Jacquin
e (Frank Villaro-Dixon) >4. Re: Use policies update (Martin Koppenhoefer) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:10:53 +0100 > From: Michał Brzozowski <www.ha...@gmail.com> > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name chang

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El onsdag 9. november 2016 13.36.11 CET Craig Wallace escribió: > Is it just for streets? Or can you add photos of footpaths, cyclepaths, > railways, rivers etc. Or any other feature you can travel along. > Why not have a name with less focus on streets? For the same reason OpenStreetMap has

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-11-08 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. Since then, we not only have collected almost 30 kilometers of coverage, but also received a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Frank Villaro-Dixon
On 16-11-08 19:13:34, Joseph Reeves, wrote 3.9K characters saying: How about just StreetScape? I would argue against this. To me, "OpenStreetView" sounds okay in non-english languages (Spanish, French, German), contrary to "StreetScape" which I imagine would be really strange for me to say

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Simon Poole
Streetscape is totally fine, if you just want to have the same problems again. Rough step by step guide to finding a workable product name: - don't do it in public - don't use anything descriptive - google for the name - do an exhaustive trademark search (or rather let your fav IP counsel do

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Michał Brzozowski
How about StreetOpenView? ;) Streetscape sounds fine to me, too. 08.11.2016 16:37 "Martijn van Exel" napisał(a): > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street > level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 08.11.2016 um 19:51 schrieb Glenn Plas: > .. > View is quite a common word. Imagine apple claiming the rights on > anything that starts with I- : I-crap, I-whatever, I-rail, I-eat (there > are thousands of those). They wouldn't exist either without Apple. Apple is naturally the text book

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Pierre Béland
LibreView ?    Pierre De : Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> À : Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be> Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : mardi 8 novembre 2016 15h52 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change sent from a phone > Il giorno 08

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 08 nov 2016, alle ore 19:51, Glenn Plas ha > scritto: > > in our EU law system you cannot claim ownership over common words like > that. It's not because you're big and bold that you can get away with > bullying. > well, a German telco

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Simon Poole
Sigh Trademarks are not patents, there is no concept similar to prior art (there is in the US some thing which comes quite close, but that is just 1 (one) country). If you are a trademark owner you need to monitor applications that are close to your mark and if the examiners don't throw

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/11/16 18:54, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > FWIW, I like the "-scape" suffix, e.g. OpenStreetscape: Get's my vote Capital 'S' though OpenStreetScape -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services -

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
How about just StreetScape? I think the open- prefix is unnecessary unless OpenStreetView is officially part of the OSM project? We should be expecting all good projects to be open by default, so branding as Open may be unnecessary. In addition, projects should be aiming to compete on features

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: > This is hardly surprising, and not unreasonable (there's no > "Ford Beetle" or "Volkswagen Mini", nor a "BurgerKing > Happy Meal". for example). Though there is Ordnance Survey Street View, which pre-dates Google Street View by several years. (It's soon to be replaced by

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
On 08-11-16 19:16, Hakuch wrote: > On 08.11.2016 18:34, Glenn Plas wrote: >> I think it's definitely totally unreasonable by Giegle. > > To be honest, no one would have chosen "View" if there not has been that > other tool, do you? View is quite a common word. Imagine apple claiming the rights

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Toby Murray
I'm guessing they are claiming trademark rights on the term "Street View" which is not entirely unreasonable. (IANAL, etc) Toby On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Glenn Plas wrote: > Does well-know-bully-company own the word 'view' ? I don't understand > why you consider

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hakuch
OpenStreetPic OpenStreetPics --> OSP On 08.11.2016 18:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: > OpenStreets > > OpenVista guess, another big player will complain then ;) > OpenPanorama > 0x2E165BB0.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hakuch
On 08.11.2016 18:34, Glenn Plas wrote: > I think it's definitely totally unreasonable by Giegle. To be honest, no one would have chosen "View" if there not has been that other tool, do you? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
Knock yourselves out by not being able to choose: http://www.namemesh.com/domain-name-search/open%20street%20photo?show=1 But I still think it's bullshit to claim this as it's clearly a part of the openstreet-brand if you just put the word 'view' behind it. I think it's definitely totally

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Aun Johnsen
Since all-evil-you-know-who have lawyers that can sue the ass off everything, let us look at what strictly mean the same but sounds completely different, my idea is FSLI, the Free Street Level Images. Aun Johnsen ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Milo van der Linden
'Photos for openstreetmap" abbreviated as photosm like with hotosm? Op 8 nov. 2016 6:08 p.m. schreef "Andy Mabbett" : > On 8 November 2016 at 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote:# > > > a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company with a >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 November 2016 at 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote:# > a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company with a similarly-named > product :) to not use the OpenStreetView name. This is hardly surprising, and not unreasonable (there's no "Ford Beetle" or "Volkswagen Mini",

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Thompson
Libre Via Picturae (Open Street View in Latin... as best I can tell usingahem... Google translate) Mike On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Guessing that company's name rimes with frugal > > Regards, > Hans > > On Nov 8, 2016 8:35 AM,

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hans De Kryger
Guessing that company's name rimes with frugal Regards, Hans On Nov 8, 2016 8:35 AM, "Martijn van Exel" wrote: > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street > level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
Does well-know-bully-company own the word 'view' ? I don't understand why you consider yielding on this. They can ask all they want right ? Glenn On 08-11-16 16:34, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open > street level

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. Since then, we not only have collected almost 30 kilometers of coverage, but also received a lot of attention from both you and the press.