A lot of pharmacies in the USA serve as general merchandise stores, as well
as selling prescription and nonprescription medicines, bandages, etc. The
Walgreens Drugstore near my home sells food, cosmetics, toys, cell phone
accessories, household tools, and many other items.
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John F.
W dniu 02.11.2015 16:47, Nicolás Alvarez napisał(a):
It seems my message has been ignored so I'm bumping it again.
This thread is called "Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0". The map
style is doing the right thing with respect to pharmacies (renders
most used tag). Nothing else to discuss
2015-11-01 10:54 GMT-03:00 :
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>> El 1/11/2015, a las 9:39, Max escribió:
>>
>>> On 2015년 11월 01일 20:51, Richard wrote:
>>> not long ago (maybe even today?) pharmacies were not only selling goods but
>>> also producing many kinds of
Maybe it is time to start a new thread and move this over to the tagging list.
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Colin Smale wrote:
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>
>
>> On 2015-11-02 13:24, Marc Gemis wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> that's the difference between explicit and implicit mapping. If
2015-11-02 10:34 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
> Indeed
>
> So why not tag things objectively instead of discussing what things are
> called in different countries?
> shop=prescription_only_medicines;self_medication;pharmacy_only_medicines;household_cleaning
>
I've not yet
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> Am 01.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Colin Smale :
>
> Is a pharmacy not the same as shop=chemist with dispensing=yes?
isn't a chemist the same as a drug store? Around here there are 3 types of
"shops": pharmacies, "parapharmacies" (dispensing no), drug
Indeed
So why not tag things objectively instead of discussing what things are
called in different countries?
shop=prescription_only_medicines;self_medication;pharmacy_only_medicines;household_cleaning
Doing it this way would of course require support for multi-valued keys
(semicolons!)
A pharmacy may open in the evenings for prescriptions only.
Your example syntax with "sells:xxx" is another way of approaching it,
but it has two disadvantages to my mind. Firstly, to find what the shop
sells, you have to access all keys which start with "sells:". The
namespace syntax (or
2015-11-02 11:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
> The second issue is that the value part of the KVP is redundant - the
> presence of the key is enough.
>
not if you consider values like "no" and "only".
> I have an instinctive aversion to modelling multiple values (the
>
On 2015-11-02 11:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2015-11-02 11:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
>
>> The second issue is that the value part of the KVP is redundant - the
>> presence of the key is enough.
>
> not if you consider values like "no" and "only".
The "no"
2015-11-02 11:45 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
> On 2015-11-02 11:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> 2015-11-02 11:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :
>
>> The second issue is that the value part of the KVP is redundant - the
>> presence of the key is enough.
>>
>
I see your point Martin. So all we need now (for your example) is a
documented map from shop=tobacco to a list of sells:*=* tags which are
default for shop=tobacco. One would reasonably expect
sells:cigarettes=yes, sells:pipe_tobacco=yes and
sells:rolling_tobacco=yes, but I am not sure about
On 2/11/2015 10:35 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
I see your point Martin. So all we need now (for your example) is a
documented map from shop=tobacco to a list of sells:*=* tags which are
default for shop=tobacco. One would reasonably expect
sells:cigarettes=yes, sells:pipe_tobacco=yes and
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> Am 02.11.2015 um 12:57 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
> Once that is up and running .. people will then want to have the brand of
> cigarette/snuff/tobacco .. as they only like one brand...
> so
> shop=tobacco
> cigarettes=death;slow_burn
>
looks like you have "sells:toys=yes" there...
If we don't agree on some kind of framework for this up front, tagging
chaos will fill the vacuum anyway. This is the normal state of affairs.
Net result is that data quality goes down, like a kid's painting set
which ultimately ends up with 24
Was there maybe a smiley missing? I suspect your suggestions may be felt
to be too detailed. However if people feel the need to tag the
individual products under the product categories, the framework is there
and OSM is a welcoming, inclusive broad church with no limits on
people's creativity
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> Am 02.11.2015 um 12:35 schrieb Colin Smale :
>
> Back to our chemists/drugstores/pharmacies, ...
>
> The "art" is going to be choosing these product categories so they are a) not
> so specific that the list gets too long and unwieldy and b) not too
>
>
> that's the difference between explicit and implicit mapping. If you are
> explicit, you know that it should be like that, if you rely on the absence
> of information / tags you might fall on your nose because the data wasn't
> complete etc.
> For some stuff it might sense to use the "no" to
On Mon Nov 2 09:13:39 2015 GMT, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> sent from a phone
>
> > Am 01.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Colin Smale :
> >
> > Is a pharmacy not the same as shop=chemist with dispensing=yes?
>
>
> isn't a chemist the same as a drug store? Around here
On 2015-11-02 13:24, Marc Gemis wrote:
>> that's the difference between explicit and implicit mapping. If you are
>> explicit, you know that it should be like that, if you rely on the absence
>> of information / tags you might fall on your nose because the data wasn't
>> complete etc.
>>
Hi,
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:32 schrieb Greg Troxel:
> I haven't seen the underlying data on tag frequency
> brought into the debate; arguably that should be the core of the
> discussion.
the underlying tag frequency is pretty clear. According to taginfo [1]
148 065 amenity
226 shop
132
license and is AFAIK the only suitable candidate.
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto
Is the place to post issues. I could do that but wanted your input for
anything font related.
m.
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Is a pharmacy not the same as shop=chemist with dispensing=yes? To my
mind it sounds like it. If there is a distinction, isn't it getting a
bit academic?
On 2015-11-01 12:51, Richard wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 09:01:04AM +1100, Warin wrote: On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM,
> Matthijs Melissen
On 2015년 11월 01일 20:51, Richard wrote:
> not long ago (maybe even today?) pharmacies were not only selling goods but
> also producing many kinds of ointments and possibly other things as ordered
> by the prescribing physician.
>
> So "shop" would be a too narrow definition.
With that argument
> El 30/10/2015, a las 19:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
>>> On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen
>>> wrote:
>>> - shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy)
>> This should be amenity=pharmacy
> El 1/11/2015, a las 9:39, Max escribió:
>
>> On 2015년 11월 01일 20:51, Richard wrote:
>> not long ago (maybe even today?) pharmacies were not only selling goods but
>> also producing many kinds of ointments and possibly other things as ordered
>> by the prescribing
On 01/11/15 12:39, Max wrote:
>> not long ago (maybe even today?) pharmacies were not only selling goods but
>> > also producing many kinds of ointments and possibly other things as
>> > ordered
>> > by the prescribing physician.
>> >
>> > So "shop" would be a too narrow definition.
> With
Richard wrote:
> Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> > Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has
> > been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org
> > servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles
> > show the new rendering.
>
> Congratulations to all involved -
OpenStreetMap Blog
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2015/10/30/openstreetmap-org-map-changing/
Dennis
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Date: Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:01 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0
On 2015년 10월 31일 06:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> * Dropped rendering of the following tags:
> - amenity=car_sharing (not relevant for the general public)
I disagree. Car sharing stations are a vital part of mobility
infrastructure and as more and more people in densely populated places
decide
Just noticed it's starting to roll across the Big Empty now.
http://imgur.com/a/od9sr
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been
> released and rolled out to the
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> Am 31.10.2015 um 00:22 schrieb Philip Barnes :
>
> Pharmacists don't technically sell medicines they dispense it and sometimes
> collect a flat rate fee, if you are of working age and live in England.
>
> They do sell some stuff as well, but so do
W dniu 31.10.2015 9:45, Max napisał(a):
On 2015년 10월 31일 06:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
* Dropped rendering of the following tags:
- amenity=car_sharing (not relevant for the general public)
I disagree. Car sharing stations are a vital part of mobility
infrastructure and as more and more
Nice work, looking really good.
In "empty quarters", it does make for difficult-to-spot tertiary roads, e.g.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/-18.7409/-65.9396
But let's not force osm-carto to do everything. There's always umap to play
around with different styles and overpass-turbo to
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> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:32 schrieb Greg Troxel :
>
> It's quite different in the US. Besides paying for prescription
> medication (often with insurance, but still) a place called a pharmacy
> will have a variety of non-prescription medication and various
>
Dear all,
Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been
released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might
still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering.
Changes include:
* Major rewrite of road and railway rendering, as part of Mateusz
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Dear al
On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
- shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy)
This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of course.
No. In a perfect world it should be
On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> - shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy)
This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of course.
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On Fri Oct 30 22:01:04 2015 GMT, Warin wrote:
> On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> > On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen
> > wrote:
> >>- shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy)
> > This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of
On 30/10/15 21:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> * Major rewrite of road and railway rendering, as part of Mateusz
> Konieczny's Google Summer of Code project. See
BUGGER I still haven’t got the backup system working and now all my UK
stuff is screwed up :(
This really does not work!
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Lester
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Subject: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0
Dear all,
Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been
released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might
still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering.
Changes include:
* Major r
g and colors. Please see the following
> announcement for details.
>
>
>
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> From: Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl>
> Date: Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:01 AM
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto
Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has
> been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org
> servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles
> show the new rendering.
Congratulations to all involved - real dedication to the cause
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