Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-04-30 Thread malenki
Wuzzy wrote: >I see Slack as this: >* Another proprietary solution which flies directly in the face of > OSM's spirit It seems that at least some parts of Slack are not completely proprietary and closed:

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-04-03 Thread Wuzzy
> Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty > good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. “Ok so look, Google Maps took over the world. And it turns out it's pretty good and useful. Let's all officially stop OSM and start working for Google.” Whaaat? This does

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-04-01 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great > for some but it’s hardly inclusive. I like Slack and started using it early > on. We set up an OSM US Slack, initially just for the board to coordinate, > but we

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-31 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Michal, The client code is proprietary, and the browser is just a platform from which to execute the code. It's similar to running Skype's proprietary binary on Debian. Running a proprietary application on a Free operating system does not change the freedom of the application. -Serge

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Charlotte Wolter writes: > Really nice discussion of the issues around using for-profit tools > in an open-source organization. The for-profit point isn't really the core issue. IMHO the big issues are the use of non-Free software on servers the use of

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Martijn, I think your approach on this issue is spot on. I personally think that when a project like OSM supports non-Free software, especially ones run by external entities, it sends absolutely the wrong message. Worse still is if we force users to use these gatekeepers to interface with our

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Rihards
On 2016.03.30. 10:40, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 10:36 +0300, Rihards wrote: this might be a bit of a clash of "why are we mapping" reasons. for some people means are not important. for others, osm is one bit in a more open, collaborating world. osm using slack is like

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 10:36 +0300, Rihards wrote: > this might be a bit of a clash of "why are we mapping" reasons. > for some people means are not important. > for others, osm is one bit in a more open, collaborating world. > > osm using slack is like wikipedia using google maps. because they

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Rihards
On 2016.03.30. 10:31, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Sun, 2016-03-27 at 00:07 -0700, Steve Coast wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software) And on this page: License Proprietary Until and unless there is an alternative client that is free software (ideally GPL licensed, but BSD/MIT

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2016-03-27 at 00:07 -0700, Steve Coast wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software) And on this page: > License Proprietary Until and unless there is an alternative client that is free software (ideally GPL licensed, but BSD/MIT licensed would also be okay), I would prefer

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martijn van Exel wrote: > The web site has always been about the map primarily, > not the people. I am curious if there are any ideas out > there to change that. Groups! cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Slack-tp5870718p5870933.html Sent from

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Dave F wrote: > > On 29/03/2016 21:20, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> On 29/03/16 20:52, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great >>> for some but it’s hardly inclusive. >>> >> >>

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > IRC is still great for some but it’s hardly inclusive. ​Some projects have a web-portal to make IRC inclusive of those who can't even configure Pipsin for IRC. -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Martijn van Exel
I find this a really worthwhile conversation to have. IRC is still great for some but it’s hardly inclusive. I like Slack and started using it early on. We set up an OSM US Slack, initially just for the board to coordinate, but we extended it to be open for all soon. They even give us free

[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Charlotte Wolter
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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/29/2016 07:33 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > +1 to this. OSM should be seeking to broaden the base of potential > mappers, and that means making sure that gateways to the community are > user-friendly - which these days includes good UX/onboarding experience > and mobile apps. Slack is a clear

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Luis Villa
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:25 AM Bill Ricker wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > >> Slack offers an irc gateway if you'd prefer to connect to slack from your >> irc client. Just sign up for the slack team and look in the

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > Slack offers an irc gateway if you'd prefer to connect to slack from your > irc client. Just sign up for the slack team and look in the "integrations" > section for information about how to connect your irc client. > ​Our

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Ian Dees
Slack offers an irc gateway if you'd prefer to connect to slack from your irc client. Just sign up for the slack team and look in the "integrations" section for information about how to connect your irc client. On Mar 29, 2016 11:33 AM, "Toby Murray" wrote: > I have set up

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-29 Thread Toby Murray
I have set up a Slack bot using some software[1] that relays messages between a slack channel and an IRC channel. It is listening in #osm on OFTC and the #irc slack channel in Steve's team. I love my irssi+screen IRC setup however it kind of breaks down when it comes to a phone-friendly

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Max
Public supergroup link: https://telegram.me/OpenStreetMapOrg https://telegram.me/OpenStreetMap already was taken and I see there is some arabic talk going on about OSM.. On 2016년 03월 28일 14:21, Max wrote: > On 2016년 03월 27일 06:37, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: >> 2016-03-26 16:59 GMT-03:00 Steve Coast

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Max
On 2016년 03월 27일 06:37, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > 2016-03-26 16:59 GMT-03:00 Steve Coast : >> Ok so look, Slack took over the world. > > It may have taken over the internal-corporate-communication world maybe. > > Slack has a million active users, Telegram gets 350.000 new

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Simon Poole
YEAH so lets run a http://www.mattermost.org/ service too. Am 27.03.2016 um 00:26 schrieb Dave F: > Yeay! Another communication forum. Just what OSM needs. > > On 26/03/2016 19:59, Steve Coast wrote: >> Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty >> good and useful.

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/27/2016 12:26 AM, Dave F wrote: > Yeay! Another communication forum. Just what OSM needs. Have we even completed our implementation of UserVoice yet, before we start with other big new stuff. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Steve Coast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software) > On Mar 27, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > > On 2016-03-26 20:59, Steve Coast wrote: >> Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty >> good and

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Steve Coast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_(software) > On Mar 27, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > > On 2016-03-26 20:59, Steve Coast wrote: >> Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty >> good and

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-27 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2016-03-26 20:59, Steve Coast wrote: Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. Maybe I'm living under a rock, but I only know Slack as a short for Slackware, a Linux distribution. What is this and why do I need

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Coast
I’d love to. I have been looking and found the basic xmpp gateway, I’d appreciate help if you’re interested? I also love what tmcw did with the bot too. Best Steve > On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:14 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > > I believe there are slack bots that can connect

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Toby Murray
I believe there are slack bots that can connect slack and IRC. Not sure how well they work when there is a lot of traffic on both sides. But is it something we would want to look at? Toby On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Steve Coast wrote: > Thanks I added it to the wiki. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Coast
Thanks I added it to the wiki. Steve > On Mar 26, 2016, at 2:07 PM, althio wrote: > > Created a few days ago for SotM-WG: > https://osmfoundation.slack.com/ > - althio > On mobile, please excuse brevity. > > On Mar 26, 2016 9:05 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Dave F
Yeay! Another communication forum. Just what OSM needs. On 26/03/2016 19:59, Steve Coast wrote: Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. — Due Diligence: https://www.google.com/#q=slack+site:wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2016-03-26 16:59 GMT-03:00 Steve Coast : > Ok so look, Slack took over the world. It may have taken over the internal-corporate-communication world maybe. Slack has a million active users, Telegram gets 350.000 new users every day. Telegram took over the world more than Slack

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread althio
Created a few days ago for SotM-WG: https://osmfoundation.slack.com/ - althio On mobile, please excuse brevity. On Mar 26, 2016 9:05 PM, "Steve Coast" wrote: > Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good > and useful. Let’s have an official OSM

[OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 Thread Steve Coast
Ok so look, Slack took over the world. And it turns out it’s pretty good and useful. Let’s have an official OSM slack. — Due Diligence: https://www.google.com/#q=slack+site:wiki.openstreetmap.org