Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert (Jamie) Munro schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulf Lamping wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to go

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to go from the Google API to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-06 Thread Ulf Lamping
Serge Wroclawski schrieb: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Ulf Lampingulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to

[OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Liz
SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml If we can duplicate these functions, then I'd suggest a polite discussion with SFD suggesting OSM for

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml If we can duplicate these functions, then I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Liz
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, David Paleino wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml If we

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:08:04 +1000, Liz wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, David Paleino wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:59:59 +1000, Liz wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already?

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
Liz wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread John Smith
2009/9/5 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Liz wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Someoneelse
Tobias Knerr wrote: How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just experiment with them) and we are only about data. If that's still the

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Tobias Knerr wrote: How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just experiment with them) and we are only about data. If that's still the

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Jonathan Bennett schrieb: Tobias Knerr wrote: How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't just experiment with them) and we are only about

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk To put it another way: We will have succeeded not when the public uses openstreetmap.org instead of Google Maps, but when Google Maps uses OpenStreetMap data instead of Navteq, Teleatlas, or other proprietary data

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already? http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/2009/map.shtml If we can duplicate these functions,

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Jonathan Bennett schrieb: Tobias Knerr wrote: How about offer reliable service with good uptimes? After the recent maintenance weekend it was stated that our services are not really intended for the public (at least if they need them and don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection hosted free by UCL, or somebody else wants to offer reliable and free hosting). Since it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough connection hosted free by UCL, or somebody else wants to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 5 Sep 2009, at 8:40 , andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: I agree, maybe it's worth to have a fundraiser for a separate, official mapnik server + super speedy hosting (unless the people involved with UCL think that we can have a reliable enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because when you go to their website you get

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: 2009/9/5 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: For any external use like SFD it makes sense to stay with a commercial solution where they can get paid support and customization if needed. My only issue with this is that it places OSM behind Google, because when

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Ian Dees wrote: On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: SFD is using a well known proprietary map on their web site. Is there anything in this which OSM or one of its derivatives can't do already?

Re: [OSM-talk] Software Freedom Day

2009-09-05 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulf Lamping wrote: Please also note, that it's really easy to switch from OSM to Google maps (and back) if you're using openlayers. But you have to rewrite your javascript code (completely?) if you want to go from the Google API to OSM. In