On 11/08/18 07:02, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual
generalization ;)
Yes, but you're mapping the road centerline, which isn't a
generalization but a real world feature.
Mapping the path of a highway as a 'way' is a generalization.
On Saturday 11 August 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >
> > The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should have a
> > good discussion about what we want from it.
>
> I don’t know since when you are following the wiki development, but
> from my point of view, there is nothing that
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> On 11. Aug 2018, at 07:56, Andrew Hain wrote:
>
> The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should have a good
> discussion about what we want from it.
I don’t know since when you are following the wiki development, but from my
point of view, there is
and we should have a good
> discussion about what we want from it.
>
> --
> Andrew
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> *From:* Paul Johnson
> *Sent:* 10 August 2018 18:13:36
> *To:* Tomasz Wójcik
> *Cc:* Talk Openstreetmap
> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs
The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should have a good
discussion about what we want from it.
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Andrew
From: Paul Johnson
Sent: 10 August 2018 18:13:36
To: Tomasz Wójcik
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs
Sounds fine by me. Seems there's a decent sized contingency working the
wiki independently of how things are actually tagged anymore, it's been
getting hard to point to the wiki as a usable reference for a couple years
now.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 05:08 Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
> So basing on your
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> On 10. Aug 2018, at 12:02, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
>
> So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't
> incorrect, it's just not documented.
I believe it is documented. It means a traffic area (omnidirectional) as
opposed to a street (linear). It
highway=* with area=yes are already most often for highway=pedestrian, but
actually renderers already apply consistant representations whe nthese are
used for other types of highways: the typical use is the representation of
residential highways without exit: instead of a terminal node with a
@djakk all object are area but that don't make sens use it in database
because data are an abstraction.
area is documented!
highway are in model linestring but in other context it is as an area so
highway area are forced with area=yes to map this object. there is no other
solution to set an
On 10.08.2018 13:20, djakk djakk wrote:
No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization
;)
1., yes. 2., no, it is a mental abstraction, necessary to apply the mathematical graph theory for
routing.
On 10.08.2018 12:02, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
> ... it looks
No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual
generalization ;)
djakk
Le ven. 10 août 2018 à 12:15, Andy Townsend a écrit :
>
> > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't
> incorrect, it's just not documented.
>
> I'd suggest that it depends
So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't
incorrect, it's just not documented. What do you guys think about adding
a better documentation of combination with area=yes to some of highway=*
Wiki pages?
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> On 8. Aug 2018, at 18:17, Tobias Knerr wrote:
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> Linear roads/paths are mapped as highway=* ways, optionally with an
> additional area:highway=* polygon.
>
> Plazas/squares are mapped as highway=* + area=yes polygons.
+1
it isn’t clear though, whether area:highway can
area:highway= to highway= is what waterway=riverbank to waterway=river.
The first is area used to understand the curvature of the edge, the second
is a routable way. They denote different things and aren't interchangeable.
As with rivers, it's expected that lines are mapped first, and on top of
On 08.08.2018 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
> Due to our rules, that we shouldn't have 2 active tagging
> schemes for the same feature
These tagging schemes are for 2 different real-world features:
* roads/paths (i.e. linear features with a direction)
* plazas/squares (i.e. open areas where people
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> On 8. Aug 2018, at 14:40, djakk djakk wrote:
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> I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging !
because an area is not a “way”, a way implies linearity.
cheers,
Martin
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> On 8. Aug 2018, at 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
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> Due to our rules, that we shouldn't have 2 active tagging schemes for the
> same feature, so we should discuss this topic.
can you point me to this rule? Is it documented somewhere? While I agree it is
preferable to
On 08.08.2018 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on Wiki, and mapping them in
combination with area=yes is not documented at all and considered as wrong tagging by part of users,
there is a key "area:highway=*" (133k uses at the
Then I still don't understand the problem. A closed way tagged with
highway=* will by default route. A closed way with area:highway=* will
not. You'll have to introduce logic in the router to do so.
Regards,
Maarten
On 2018-08-08 14:49, john whelan wrote:
I don’t get why highway=footway +
> I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging
!
The problem is consistency. If the renderers and routers don't understand
your tagging then it is less visible.
Cheerio John
On 8 August 2018 at 08:40, djakk djakk wrote:
> I don’t get why highway=footway +
I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging !
djakk
Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 12:52, Tomasz Wójcik a écrit :
> As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on
> Wiki, and mapping them in combination with area=yes is not documented at
> all
As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on
Wiki, and mapping them in combination with area=yes is not documented at
all and considered as wrong tagging by part of users, there is a key
"area:highway=*" (133k uses at the moment). Part of users still map
footway
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