On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Mario Salvini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you mean:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed
Exactly ! Great job.
My point is that:
- such tables should
Pieren schrieb:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Mario Salvini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you mean:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed
Exactly ! Great job.
My point
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Mario Salvini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you mean:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 06 November 2008, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
I like this idea of having country specific presets in the editors
instead of having renderers to be country sprecific.
It's way too late for that for tags like
On Friday 07 November 2008, Nic Roets wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thursday 06 November 2008, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
I like this idea of having country specific presets in the
editors instead of having renderers to be country sprecific.
highway=pedestrian ; bicycle=yes/no = see [[Country specific default
values]]
I'll move my discussion to this page since we might me bothering people on
this list.
I still don't have the perfect counter example, but there are some voices
that tells me don't disconnect an object from it's
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps, to avoid the creation of millions tags with motorcar=yes/no,
bicycle=yes/no, pedestrian=yes/no (and so on) in dozen of millions of
ways, it should be more clever to have a set of default values defined
per country and
On Thursday 06 November 2008, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
JOSM could be extended to ask in the install : are you mapping in
Germany or in Italy ?
If germany, a track could be recorded as :
highway=track
motorcar=no
In Italy, a track could be recorded as :
highway=track
motocar=yes
I
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:30 PM, sylvain letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
highway=pedestrian ; bicycle=yes/no = see [[Country specific default
values]]
Well, the wiki page didn't exist - it was just an idea/suggestion ...
highway=pedestrian ; bicycle=yes/no = see [[Country specific default
values]]
Well, the wiki page didn't exist - it was just an idea/suggestion ...
Well, now it does exist ;-)
If
later, we see that many, many countries allows bicycles on pedestrian
highways then we might decide to
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
only... does that mean you're going to revisit all 30 tracks in
Germany to check whether they allow cars or not? The project of
No. A German track without a motorcar key will get motorcar=no added,
assuming the original
Hi Ben,
Am Freitag, 7. November 2008 schrieben Sie:
On Thursday 06 November 2008, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
JOSM could be extended to ask in the install : are you mapping in
Germany or in Italy ?
If germany, a track could be recorded as :
highway=track
motorcar=no
In Italy, a
Hi Nic,
Am Freitag, 7. November 2008 schrieb Nic Roets:
only... does that mean you're going to revisit all 30 tracks in
Germany to check whether they allow cars or not? The project of
No. A German track without a motorcar key will get motorcar=no added,
assuming the original survey was
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe:
It may be better to let each country decide for itself in the end I
guess.
Well, I'm not so sure of that.
I would prefere the editors to have the defaults defined depending on the
country and record in the database a world wide
Hi,
Rainer Dorsch wrote:
I like this idea of having country specific presets in the editors instead of
having renderers to be country sprecific.
The editor presets can be stored in a local file. They can even come
from a http URL. So it would only need someone in each country to make a
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2008 schrieben Sie:
If the closest way to click (tlat/tlon for yournavigation) falls next to an
access=destination way, gosmore will assume that you have permission / will
obtain permission at the appropriate time.
So if the business park with the 2 entrances only
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Ben Laenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be better to let each country decide for itself in the end I
guess.
Ben
In addition to my previous objections, namely that newbies don't follow
standards, and that it make things difficult for OSM members traveling
I always assumed highway=track allows cars,
Me too
and we have highway=path now
for where they're not allowed...
Well, there, no, I still tag a track a track + add the appropriate access tag
It may be better to let each country decide for itself in the end I
guess.
Well, I'm not so
But a highway=path is good for ways where cars are not allowed by the
laws of physics :)
We are not talking about a physical possibility, but about an access right
motorcar=no implies that cars are not allowed, but not that tractors or
emergency vehiculs aren't
path implies access
Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe:
But a highway=path is good for ways where cars are not allowed by the
laws of physics :)
We are not talking about a physical possibility, but about an access right
motorcar=no implies that cars are not allowed, but not that tractors or
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What is the difference between access restriction and are not allowed ?
None.
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Using the script below I found 219469 tracks of which 202630 did not have a
motorcar= tag.
My reasoning behind gosmore was that tracks not suitable for vehicles should
be tagged as footway. It's flawed because we so many unsurfaced way types.
Perhaps we can adopt the following scheme ?
Sascha,
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2008 schrieb Sascha Silbe:
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 09:04:06PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
In Germany (Switzerland and Austria as well?) there are probably a
very low fraction of tracks on which motorcars are allowed.
That depends on the state (Bundesland).
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2008 schrieb Nic Roets:
Using the script below I found 219469 tracks of which 202630 did not have a
motorcar= tag.
My reasoning behind gosmore was that tracks not suitable for vehicles
should be tagged as footway.
I think many tracks here could technically be used
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(except for some special cases like if you own land
which is accessible only using such a track or if you have special
permission).
Then it should be tagged with access=destination
It's not yet supported in gosmore, but
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2008 schrieb Nic Roets:
(except for some special cases like if you own land
which is accessible only using such a track or if you have special
permission).
Then it should be tagged with access=destination
It's not yet supported in gosmore, but I've though about
Hi,
Nic Roets wrote:
(IMHO surface=paved should not be assumed for highway=track either.)
The contrary is the case. Before the advent of tracktype=..., tracks
were defined as unpaved (anything paved would have been a
highway=service or such); nowadays, tracktype=grade1 is used to
designate a
Am Dienstag, 4. November 2008 schrieben Sie:
surface paved /cobblestone /unpaved way
Apply to all types of highways. If the tag is not present, it is assumed
surface=paved, excepted for highway=footway. (sealed/unsealed outside
UK).
(IMHO surface=paved should not be assumed for
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do I have a way to tell gosmore that I have a permission or would it also
route me there when I want to do a short leissure walk there (maybe by
selecting the destination with a click)?
If the closest way to click
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:52:57PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
That depends on the state (Bundesland). So there cannot be a global
default, only a local one.
I am just curious: which Bundesländer do typically allow motorcars on
tracks?
Sorry, don't know that off the top of my head, but one was
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Nic Roets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My reasoning behind gosmore was that tracks not suitable for vehicles should
be tagged as footway.
tracks that are not suitable for any kind of vehicle, yes
but I believe that most tracks are suitable for at least some kind of
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