Hi,
I would like to thank the programmers for the professional piece of
software and for the founders of the iD project.
And I would like to apologize for the oversceptic and rude style of
some of the participants in this mailing list.
Yours, Stefan
2013/5/25 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
RB
Russ Nelson wrote:
This is ridiculous. I tried ID, and it didn't make my penis bigger
OR harder, my breasts didn't get bigger, I didn't get six-pack
abs, and I didn't get shaplier thighs in just six weeks.
You should submit an issue on github. I believe there's a Math.abs function
in JS so
The worst editor ewer. With this will result many damages and
incompatibilities. From newbies ofcourse. Potlatch is the best blend for
advanced users and for new ones with alot of info and very friendly
interface. This is a joke. Take it down before destroyed the existent maps
with alot of hard
2013/5/8 razor74 radulescu.raz...@gmail.com
The worst editor ewer. With this will result many damages and
incompatibilities. From newbies ofcourse. Potlatch is the best blend for
advanced users and for new ones with alot of info and very friendly
interface. This is a joke. Take it down before
, but do not slag it off on
a public mailing list!
Nick
-razor74 radulescu.raz...@gmail.com wrote: -
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From: razor74 radulescu.raz...@gmail.com
Date: 24/05/2013 09:36AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
The worst editor ewer. With this will result
Am 08.05.2013 17:10, schrieb razor74:
The worst editor ewer.
There is still (deleted) data in the database from an editor that got
lat/lon confused what was the name again
JOSM
Simon
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ID is a wonderful editor, simple and intuitive. Although I am mostly a
JOSN user, I know at least 2 beginners who feel confident enough to edit
the map since there is ID.
Thanks very much for it. It is helping OSM a lot.
Ruben
Le 24 mai 2013 15:05, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch a écrit :
Am
As one of people who raised issue of iD being slow on Firefox more than
week ago, I must say that I tested it right now on Firefox 20 (on same
system, just Firefox upgrade) and it is much much faster. Thanks for
improvements to iD dev team and keep up good work! :)
Respectfully,
Peteris
it to your friends in private,
change the code, but do not slag it off on a public mailing list!
Nick
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From: razor74 radulescu.raz...@gmail.com
Date: 24/05/2013 09:36AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM, John F. Eldredge
So, you feel that non-programmers, who have justified reasons to complain
about the design, such as the silent removal of highway tags, should not be
able to let their opinion of the bad design be made known?
That's what programmers love (I'm
On 24/05/2013 12:15, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
I don't regularly use iD myself (JOSM user), but, on behalf of its
developers: negative comments like this are unhelpful and denigrate
the vast amount of hard work that has gone into producing the editor.
If you don't like it, complain about it to
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 24/05/2013 12:15, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
I don't regularly use iD myself (JOSM user), but, on behalf of its
developers: negative comments like this are unhelpful and denigrate the
vast amount of hard work that has
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
You think the developers are above criticism?
They shouldn't be, but there's no need to criticize the developers for
what's going on here. The problems with iD so far aren't fundamental fatal
flaws, but simply bugs or
:34PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
On 05/24/2013 06:15 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
I don't regularly use iD myself (JOSM user), but, on behalf of
its developers: negative comments like this are unhelpful
+1. Amen to that ;-)
Nick
-Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: -
From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com
Date: 24/05/2013 04:07PM
Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Dave F. dave
Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM, John F. Eldredge
So, you feel that non-programmers, who have justified reasons to
complain
about the design, such as the silent removal of highway tags, should
not be
able to let their opinion of the bad design be made
RB writes:
ID is a wonderful editor, simple and intuitive. Although I am mostly a
JOSN user, I know at least 2 beginners who feel confident enough to edit
the map since there is ID.
Thanks very much for it. It is helping OSM a lot.
This is ridiculous. I tried ID, and it didn't make my
Alex Barth wrote:
Please report any issues you find with iD directly to the issue queue [2]. As
always, reproducible bug descriptions and specific feature requests are more
than welcome.
I think part of the problem here is/was that there are many support lists
covering packages used by
7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
On 14/05/2013 21:05, Mikel Maron wrote:
Um, yea, I'm going to start moderating individuals. I'm sure github is there
for any further technical bug reports.
Off topic:
I'm extremely surprised partially annoyed by your attempt
Dave F. wrote
Off topic:
I'm extremely surprised partially annoyed by your attempt at sudden
censure. Lots of threads have been much more vitriolic gone much
further off course than this one. It's appears some are embarrassed
about the situation with ID want to sweep it under the
So...
This thread went on some tangents, but nevertheless, thank you for your
feedback. John Firebaugh just posted a new roadmap for the next release of
iD [1] and it focuses on the key issues discussed here: relations support
and suboptimal performance on Firefox.
Please report any issues you
On 12 May 2013, at 18:41, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 05/12/2013 03:41 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
No, but I am saying that we have a history of not necessarily allowing
the complaints of the people creating crazily complicated systems of
relations to have a veto on what editors are or
On 14/05/2013 00:25, Janko Mihelić wrote:
Officialy releasing projects like these moves the web forward. It
comes at a cost, but if nobody ever used HTML vector graphics,
browsers would never perfect it. I think this is a big step for OSM as
well as the HTML standard.
Using the end user's
Dave F. wrote:
On 08/05/2013 14:37, Douglas Musaazi wrote:
Great work!! let's go ahead and use it.
I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF, the
walk-through help keeps hanging the pop-ups appear over the area I
want to edit
One advantage of it being slower than P2
On Tuesday 14 May 2013, Dave F. wrote:
Using the end user's inconvenience to strong arm/embarrass the likes of
Mozilla into making changes is not the way to design software. This
should have been sorted out in Beta, or, as it appears to be a well
known problem - Alpha.
We would be alpha
On 14 May 2013 11:43, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
We would be alpha all the way into 2016 then.
Really, we've been told that HTML5 SVG are taking over vector graphics
for the web for nearly 5 years now. There are still painful holes in the
implementations. Without things like
On 14/05/13 13:14, Kevin Peat wrote:
I would imagine that most OSMers would have (at least) Firefox and
Chrome/Chromium installed. If iD doesn't work so well on Firefox yet
then why not put up a dialog at the start of a session on Firefox
telling them they would be better off using Chrome?
Tom Hughes wrote:
I would imagine that most OSMers would have (at least) Firefox and
Chrome/Chromium installed. If iD doesn't work so well on Firefox yet
then why not put up a dialog at the start of a session on Firefox
telling them they would be better off using Chrome?
Because that makes for
A fallback to flash is not the best option for mobiles without flash
support, for operating systems without non-free software (like... flash).
And: Flash often is a performance killer itself. Less for the single
flash movie inside the browser, but for the overall operating system.
This it not in
On 14 May 2013 13:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 14/05/13 13:14, Kevin Peat wrote:
I would imagine that most OSMers would have (at least) Firefox and
Chrome/Chromium installed. If iD doesn't work so well on Firefox yet
then why not put up a dialog at the start of a session on
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
If we want to make it the default before FF seems to be up to the job then
we'll just make FF fall back to PL2 as we will already be doing for IE.
I think it's the best solution. Newcomers are very sensitive to any
issue on
On 14/05/13 13:48, Peter Wendorff wrote:
A fallback to flash is not the best option for mobiles without flash
support, for operating systems without non-free software (like... flash).
And: Flash often is a performance killer itself. Less for the single
flash movie inside the browser, but for
On 14 May 2013 13:36, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
And some of us find the conditions G$ put on chrome is a reason NOT to
have anything to do with it. It's bad enough the pressure to change for
spurious reasons without having OPEN projects like OSM making the same
demands :(
Use
Kevin Peat wrote:
On 14 May 2013 13:36, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
And some of us find the conditions G$ put on chrome is a reason NOT to have
anything to do with it. It's bad enough the pressure to change for spurious
reasons without having
Lester,
On 14 May 2013 14:30, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But I'm have been more than happy with seamonkey for many years so why
would I switch to something else just because someone thinks they know
better :( When they get proper email support back ... there may be a reason
to
It might be a good idea to give user a choice to select an editor he wants,
but add some recommendations based on browser/platform. Something like
putting big red Recommended label near iD on Chrome or on systems without
flash player installed, and the same label to P2 on Firefox, IE, Opera and
...@k3v.eu
To: Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
Lester,
On 14 May 2013 14:30, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
But I'm have been more than happy with seamonkey
On Tuesday 14 May 2013, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 14/05/13 13:14, Kevin Peat wrote:
I would imagine that most OSMers would have (at least) Firefox and
Chrome/Chromium installed. If iD doesn't work so well on Firefox yet
then why not put up a dialog at the start of a session on Firefox
Also, let's not all assume that performance under FF is so much better for PL2.
I've found that while iD is indeed slower on FF than on Chrome, it's
still faster than PL2 is on my laptop.
The issues that Firefox has with iD are the same issues Firefox has
with Leaflet when using vector graphics.
Hi Folks,
I'm going to repeat Mikel and gently encourage us to close out the
conversation on Firefox and browsers in general. These certainly aren't
invalid points, but I think your points have been made and heard.
For my own part, I've really enjoyed using iD-- it's been much more
accessible
Dave F. schrieb:
I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF
This is at least partially a Firefox issue, actually, and something that
will need to be worked on there, see the investigations and explanations
in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=837985 (two of the
There are ongoing discussions in the German boards about iD easily and/or
inadvertently breaking data [1].
It appears to run with very bad performance in FF and not at all in IE [2].
This issues should probably better be resolved before making it the default
editor.
bye, Nop
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The missing sources to my last mail
[1]
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ID-Editor-zerstort-mit-einem-Klick-tagelange-Arbeit-td5760346.html
[2] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=21102
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Hi!
Tom Hughes-3 wrote
There are ongoing discussions in the German boards about iD easily and/or
inadvertently breaking data [1].
Just like they've been saying about Potlatch for the last N years you
mean?
Are you implying that any comments on iD are to be discarded
indiscriminately
Tom Hughes wrote:
The pending pull request to make it the default deliberately leaves Potlatch as
the default for IE. We're not complete idiots you know...
So how do we leave potlatch as a default on other browsers?
A consensus on this sort of impositions wou1d be nice ... having to find one's
Hi,
On 12.05.2013 14:24, NopMap wrote:
There are ongoing discussions in the German boards about iD easily and/or
inadvertently breaking data [1].
Just like they've been saying about Potlatch for the last N years you
mean?
Are you implying that any comments on iD are to be discarded
Lester,
On 12.05.2013 15:22, Lester Caine wrote:
So how do we leave potlatch as a default on other browsers?
A consensus on this sort of impositions wou1d be nice ... having to find
one's way around a new editor when one is used to the idiosyncrasies of
the existing one is just going to mean I
On 12/05/13 13:24, NopMap wrote:
Tom Hughes-3 wrote
There are ongoing discussions in the German boards about iD easily and/or
inadvertently breaking data [1].
Just like they've been saying about Potlatch for the last N years you
mean?
Are you implying that any comments on iD are to be
On 08/05/2013 14:37, Douglas Musaazi wrote:
Great work!! let's go ahead and use it.
I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF, the
walk-through help keeps hanging the pop-ups appear over the area I
want to edit
Has an on-line help page been written yet?
How do I
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 08/05/2013 14:37, Douglas Musaazi wrote:
Great work!! let's go ahead and use it.
I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF, the
walk-through help keeps hanging the pop-ups appear over the
On 05/12/2013 03:41 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
No, but I am saying that we have a history of not necessarily allowing
the complaints of the people creating crazily complicated systems of
relations to have a veto on what editors are or are not allowed to do.
Simple cycle and hiking route relations
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 05/12/2013 03:41 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
No, but I am saying that we have a history of not necessarily allowing
the complaints of the people creating crazily complicated systems of
relations to have a veto on what
On 05/12/2013 08:35 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
Simple route relations are handled correctly by iD.
Correction: Some aspects of simple route relations are handled correctly
by iD.
The basic fact remains that you don't even see that something is part of
a relation. So if a crossroads is turned into a
Tom MacWright tom at macwright.org writes:
Filed an issue for that idea at https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1472
- in the future, please file issues on GitHub rather than posting to the
mailing list, so that they're seen and actionable by developers.
Hi,
If ideas are filed directly
Great work!! let's go ahead and use it.
Without selecting an option from the edit tab, potlatch 2 is the default
editor, still.
Yours Truly
Douglas Ssebaggala Musaazi
Mobile: +256-772-422524
http://www.mountbatten.net/
http://www.pamoya.com/node/13275
http://www.mappingday.com/
.
Cheers!
Eugene
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From: tmcw t...@macwright.org
Date: Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:41 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
To: t...@openstreetmap.org
Hi all!
Today, we've tagged iD editor v1.0.0 and integrated it into
openstreetmap.org, thanks
Hi all!
Today, we've tagged iD editor v1.0.0 and integrated it into
openstreetmap.org, thanks to Tom Hughes, Ansis Brammanis, John Firebaugh,
Saman Bemel-Benrud, Richard Fairhurst, Alex Barth, and many many others.
It's been a long 7 months of development which we've chronicled on
Congratulations to all of the developers and contributors to iD!
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, tmcw t...@macwright.org wrote:
Hi all!
Today, we've tagged iD editor v1.0.0 and integrated it into
openstreetmap.org, thanks to Tom Hughes, Ansis Brammanis, John Firebaugh,
Saman Bemel-Benrud,
Congratulations and many thanks to everyone who has put in countless
hours developing and testing and deploying! I've watched this project
grow and it has come a long, long way.
Some reads:
http://mashable.com/2013/05/07/openstreetmap/
On 7 May 2013 18:06, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Congratulations and many thanks to everyone who has put in countless
hours developing and testing and deploying! I've watched this project
grow and it has come a long, long way.
Some reads:
No, I left that one to you :)
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
On 7 May 2013 18:06, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Congratulations and many thanks to everyone who has put in countless
hours developing and testing and deploying! I've
Hi!
Unfortunately, iD starts with a misleading greeting. It says: ...for more
information, visit ideditor.com.
But all you find there is another instance of the editor, none of the
promised information.
bye, Nop
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Should there be a mailing list for iD, as there are mailing lists for
Potlatch, JOSM, and Merkaartor?
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Hi,
As discussed this month on the #dev mailing list:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2013-May/thread.html - iD
doesn't have a mailing list of its own at this point, and I think that's
fine: 'talk discussion' of the editor can live in the #dev mailing list, and
technical discussion -
On May 7, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Grant Slater wrote:
You forgot the most important blog ;-)
http://blog.openstreetmap.org/2013/05/07/openstreetmap-launches-all-new-easy-map-editor-and-announces-funding-appeal/
/ Grant
Ha!
Congratulations, guys. It's a fantastic piece of work.
-mike.
tmcw wrote
As discussed this month on the #dev mailing list:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2013-May/thread.html - iD
doesn't have a mailing list of its own at this point, and I think that's
fine: 'talk discussion' of the editor can live in the #dev mailing list,
and technical
NopMap wrote:
And putting a simple general or how to question into an
issue tracker is rather weird.
help.openstreetmap.org is the commonly used and expected method of asking
simple general and how to questions. :)
cheers
Richard
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This looks very nice.
Cheers!
Pierre
De : tmcw t...@macwright.org
À : talk@openstreetmap.org
Envoyé le : Mardi 7 mai 2013 12h41
Objet : [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap
Hi all!
Today, we've tagged iD editor v1.0.0 and integrated
Richard Fairhurst wrote
NopMap wrote:
And putting a simple general or how to question into an
issue tracker is rather weird.
help.openstreetmap.org is the commonly used and expected method of asking
simple general and how to questions. :)
Then I really wonder why we have the josm-dev,
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