Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread matthew-osm
Hi, On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 06:13:39PM +0100, David Earl wrote: They are universally rural. They are tracks, yes, but formally public whereas a track will typically be associated with a farm ore similar. Mostly rural, but not all. There are two in Loughborough that I am aware of - one Cross

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread Pieren
Thanks for all replies. After a parallel discussion in the french ML, I would say that we will probably not use it as it sounds too much UK specific. Perhaps it's also a misunderstanding from my part that the wiki Map Features is the international wiki page but, in fact, is the UK map features

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Perhaps it's also a misunderstanding from my part that the wiki Map Features is the international wiki page but, in fact, is the UK map features page. No, that is a misunderstanding also. The Map Features page is where *all* widely used tags get documented (plus a few others). If you

[OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread elvin ibbotson
From: Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 18 July 2008 22:14:32 BDT To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? Dear talk, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between highway=path and highway=byway recently introduced in map features ? The description

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
What exactly are we trying to achieve with highway=byway? I can think of two possible uses but both seem to have unresolved issues. The first is simply to record that a particular way exists and has certain access rights. In this instance I don't see highway=byway being any different to

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Sent: 21 July 2008 10:29 AM To: Andy Street Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? What exactly are we trying to achieve with highway=byway? I can think of two possible uses but both seem to have unresolved issues. The first is simply to record

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-21 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 01:48 +0100, 80n wrote: In the case of the OSM definition of highway=byway, it corresponds exactly to the UK definition of a byway (or more precisely Byway Open to All Traffic). More technically, it's an English and Welsh thing. AFAIK, Scotland doesn't have these (we

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Pieren
I forgot the discussion in December (which was more about voting or not voting ;-). It's clear when I read the following description from Nick W. [1]: - Byway (highway=byway) is an unsurfaced track oops. highway=unsurfaced has been removed from Map Features. It has been replaced by highway=track

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Richard Bullock
Message: 9 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:54:51 -0500 From: Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ? To: talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Pieren wrote: Dear talk, Could some native

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
What is the limit between highway=byway and highway=track ? Byway is an official byway (a certain class of right of way in the UK), or, if motorcar=no added, a restricted byway. A highway=track is any other type of track - you can use the foot/horse/bicycle tags to describe precisely what sort

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread David Earl
There's the informal word byway as in the English phrase highways and byways which you would indeed say is a minor road as per wikipedia, but there are also formal byways. In many parts of England these are actually signposted with a finger post which simply says Byway or Public byway. e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-19 Thread Andy Street
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 16:35 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: What is the limit between highway=byway and highway=track ? Byway is an official byway (a certain class of right of way in the UK), or, if motorcar=no added, a restricted byway. A highway=track is any other type of track - you can use

[OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Pieren
Dear talk, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between highway=path and highway=byway recently introduced in map features ? The description is not obvious. Is it unpaved / paved ? Where is the limit between path-byway and byway-unclassified ? regards Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Alex Mauer
Pieren wrote: Dear talk, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between highway=path and highway=byway recently introduced in map features ? For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, but instead just plopped into map features. So I guess no

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Could some native english speaker explain the difference between highway=path and highway=byway recently introduced in map features ? For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, but instead just plopped into map features. Just like them darn

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread Alex Mauer
Frederik Ramm wrote: For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, but instead just plopped into map features. Just like them darn motorways... nobody ever put them to vote, it's a shame ;-) Except that motorways were there on the very first rev (ok, second) of Map

Re: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?

2008-07-18 Thread 80n
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: For one, byway was never proposed or described or otherwise documented, but instead just plopped into map features. Just like them darn motorways... nobody ever put them to vote, it's a shame ;-)