Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways Yeah, a healthy chunk of the interstates in Kansas are

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 15/12/2011 12:40, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:47 AM User moonwashed created this way by splitting it from a TIGER way. He made several more edits to it but the last 20 versions have been by

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways On 15/12/2011 12:40, David Groom wrote: - Original

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 15/12/2011 13:17, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:59 AM But what if the source changes ? When I use high-resolution imagery to improve areas formerly mapped from

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread 80n
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: On 15/12/2011 13:17, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:59 AM But what if the source changes ?

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread Mikel Maron
Please continue any detailed discussion of this topic to legal-talk ... that's what it's for. -Mikel Moderators   == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: 80n 80n...@gmail.com To: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/15/2011 02:11 PM, 80n wrote: Joint ownership is an important principle to understand. If someone edits a way then they are making a derivative of that way and inheriting *all* of the joint copyright ownerships. Provided that a way is a work - maybe it isn't; maybe the whole of OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-15 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 12/15/2011 8:21 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: Please continue any detailed discussion of this topic to legal-talk ... that's what it's for. The question is not what's legally true, but what conditions the OSMF will require an object to satisfy to not be reverted. So it actually belongs on

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/15/2011 02:58 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: So what here will be reverted by the OSMF? Obviously node 250413743 needs to be replaced by another node in the same general location. But other than that, is everything tainted because it was split from a tainted way? Or is nothing else

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 12/14/2011 9:45 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: It has been explained already but I'll repeat it - OSMF/LWG has not yet decided what they will do with regards to the finer points of complex object relicensing. This means that none of your questions above has an answer. And OSMF is not going to

Re: [OSM-talk] An example of the complications inherent in determining tainted ways

2011-12-14 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah, a healthy chunk of the interstates in Kansas are the same way. I didn't go quite as deep as Nathan but this way is a relevant example: http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=33576021 User moonwashed created this way by splitting it from a TIGER way. He made several more edits to it but the