Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:39 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer I agree to this, but the name isolated_dwelling was the translation I finally found (neither in wikipedia nor in the dictionary) for the German scientific term Einzelsiedlung, which describes the smallest entity of human settlements (below

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria -Original Message- From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:13:32 To: m...@koppenhoefer.com Cc: osmtalk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open 2010/5/5 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: - Zitierten Text anzeigen - 2010/5/5 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Sub-hamlet? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=subhamletmeta=aq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= 9,600 hits

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/5 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: In English usage, a dwelling is a residence.  So, a farmhouse would be an isolated dwelling; a building not used as a residence, such as a restaurant or train station, would be an isolated building, but not an isolated dwelling. sorry, I wasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/5 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Since the English language defines a dwelling as a place where someone dwells, I suspect that the UK government is using the term to mean structures used as residences.  The proposed tag, on the other hand, would classify any isolated building

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:56 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/5 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Sub-hamlet? http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=subhamletmeta=aq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= 9,600 hits

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread Simon Biber
From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Cool, did you notice the first link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_hierarchy That kind of settles it, really. Note that when the Wikipedia article was first created, the lowest-level settlement was called Lone Farmhouse. It was changed

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Note that when the Wikipedia article was first created, the lowest-level settlement was called Lone Farmhouse. It was changed to Isolated dwelling on 14 September, 2006. See the comparison of the contents before and

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/4 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Towns and hamlets are usually incorporated in one form or another, isolated buildings aren't, in any case you can tell how isolated a building is by comparing features around it, you don't need to explicitly say it's isolated. I agree to this,

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: please vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/isolated_dwelling Err... Aren't those called houses? No. Houses don't generally have names, they have numbers. This proposal is

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 May 2010 13:52, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: No. Houses don't generally have names, they have numbers. This Rural properties in Australia, even those close to towns, often have names... Even if the rural renumbering scheme has also given these places numbers... Houses located

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-02 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: yes, it could be houses. It could also be a cave or a tent, but mostly it will be houses. This is a term for settlement classification, not about building types. Well, OK, but you did use the term 'households' Why not use the standard landuse=residential?

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-05-02 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/3 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Well, OK, but you did use the term 'households' Why not use the standard landuse=residential? Because this is about place and not about landuse. I understand place as a tag for human settlements which vary from very small

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-04-29 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: please vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/isolated_dwelling Err... Aren't those called houses? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting for place=isolated_dwelling is open

2010-04-29 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/29 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: please vote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/isolated_dwelling Err... Aren't those called houses? yes, it could be houses. It could also be a cave or a tent, but mostly it will be houses. This is a