Re: [OSM-talk] api www down
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xin Zheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also experiencing the outage. No you're not, you're experiencing a different outage ;-) How much extra load from Slashdot are we talking about here? It's a pitty they can't see OSM at it's best. The current problem is not slashdot - that was pretty much resolved when I posted last night. Unfortunately a few hours later the network our machines are on at UCL appears to have ceased functioning... Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon [x-post]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Harris schrieb: the mapnik layer and the openstreetmap page are both affected by a network outage at our hosting sponsor. http://informationfreeway.org with the osmarender layer still does work first the slashdot effect may have it backlogged and stuff timedout second the tile may not have been regenerated third (least likely) the data may be missing/corrupt Dirk, Jon, thanks for the suggestions, however this problem was apparent late last week - before the slashdotting and network outage. When zoomed into the area around Rangoon http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=16.799943421803306lon=96.16298921515303zoom=14layers=B000F000F or http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.796lon=96.1546zoom=13layers=B0FT it is apparent that there is a nasty gap where there used to be some very good data. The editing tools I have access to (Potlatch and JOSM) both rely on the osm server, so I can't check those, but there does appear to be a problem here, so is there a way to roll back or check an old version of a whole area? http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/info.php?x=3141y=1854z=12 That tile has had data changed on 2008-02-25 (the changedTiles requester caught it) this was quite possibly a delete. The osmarender layer is rendered directly from api output, so basically reflects the current state of affairs, if no rendering problems arise. the better you can narrow in the area, and maybe more importantly the time of the deletion there is a way. If the area is not too big you can use potlatch's undelete (zoom to area, press U) to resurrect ways one-by-one. - -- Dirk-Lüder Deelkar Kreie Bremen - 53.0952°N 8.8652°E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxTZ1FUbODdpRVDwRApqXAJ4qiCPcyzbLoRS3eK/nl8JFvpxPYgCggumw drgq1iJQPLdzO1pqLWlJK7Y= =Ejow -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. 2. The show gps tracks button looks like eraser. I think it's supposed to look like a gps receiver. This would need a better button, maybe a few dotted lines crossing or so. 3. There should be a way to remove a key-value pair without clearing the fields. E.g. there could be a small minus sign next to a pair to remove that pair. 4. There should be a way to show all possible options in the preset type menu (the button with image left to the actual presets). This could be done, for example, by showing all the possibilities if the user clicks and holds it. 5. I don't know how easy this would be but I'd like to see Nasa's Landsat images besides OpenAerial's as Nasa's seem to have better colours around here. -- Lauri Hahne ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Lauri Hahne wrote: There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D Some good suggestions, thanks! 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. Ha, I'm never sure what to do with this one. Tab is standard for people who are used to *nix shells. On Windows and OS X, IME, tab jumps from field to field. Enter/Return selects from an auto-complete menu (e.g. Safari, Excel). (The behaviour of tab in auto-complete apps is inconsistent, on OS X at least.) Potlatch is following Windows/OS X behaviour rather than *nix shell behaviour. It's important that there's a keypress for move to next field without auto-complete, so that you can type high=very as well as highway=primary. (I will for the moment ignore those who feel there should be RULES to PREVENT non-standard tags being USED.) As to whether this is Tab or Enter, I'm not greatly fussed, but it seems more logical to me that Enter should stick with its general sense of accept choice. 5. I don't know how easy this would be but I'd like to see Nasa's Landsat images besides OpenAerial's as Nasa's seem to have better colours around here. Potlatch will accept any tile source in the standard spherical Mercator (like-Google/900913) projection/tile system used by OSM and a zillion others. I don't know of anyone offering standard-issue NASA Landsat in such a form (and who'd be willing to let us leach their bandwidth), but let me know if you do! cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] DIY DSLR GPS - The more handy of you might like this
Found this via the Make: Blog. http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] i-gotU GPS logger and Linux: bad news
During the recent Perugia Mapping Party, Cristiano Givando bought us a batch of [1] i-gotU GPS logger. I tried to use them in Linux, but with no luck till now. I tried to add the USB ID to the pl2303 and to the ftdi_sio kernel modules, but I got a segmentation fault whenever a program tries to open the /dev/ttyUSB0 device. The i-gotU Desktop Windows program does not work in Wine. Also the device did not work into Qemu+Windows98 environment. I wrote to [2] Mobile Action Technology, asking for help. [1] http://www.i-gotu.com/product/BT_GPS.html [2] http://global.mobileaction.com/ -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Matt White wrote: The alternative to the above (although it would be good in its own right) would be a change to the way a t junction is made. every time I connect a way that is perpendicular to an existing stright way, it creates the joining node, but it often shifts the new node a little bit, making the previous straight road kinked. It's a right pain.Same thing often happens when I create a node in the middle of a way - the node isn't created in the same line - it gets a little offset. You're quite right. That annoys me too. (As you've probably guessed, it puts the new point at the mouse-click rather than on the exact point on the line near the mouse-click.) I don't know why I've not fixed it already... cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Couple of ideas for potlatch A make this way straight button would be handy. I know this is available in JOSM, but I like Potlatch better (mostly cos I do a lot of country road work and it's just easier to use potlatch to edit, scroll a bit edit etc than keep downloading new sections in JOSM) The alternative to the above (although it would be good in its own right) would be a change to the way a t junction is made. every time I connect a way that is perpendicular to an existing stright way, it creates the joining node, but it often shifts the new node a little bit, making the previous straight road kinked. It's a right pain.Same thing often happens when I create a node in the middle of a way - the node isn't created in the same line - it gets a little offset. Hoepfully that's clear-ish Matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] i-gotU GPS logger and Linux: bad news
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Niccolo Rigacci schrieb: On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 01:01:47PM +0100, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: I suggest you use the BT connection with /dev/rfcomm0 The i-gotU model GT-100 does not have BT, the larger GT-200 does. At least as far I know! Sorry I only skimmed the webpage. - -- Dirk-Lüder Deelkar Kreie Bremen - 53.0952°N 8.8652°E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxVgiFUbODdpRVDwRAikoAKDOq4gaSAuO0GspcMIBOIpL/7vbdwCgwrDz mZeGhkeXN/6LM4FSY55PnX4= =2gxT -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Good practice [was: Parking symbols: YUCK!]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Grüner schrieb: Lester Caine wrote: And a simple definition of good practice will remove the need for any discussion when we start getting similar conflicts with church icons, or any other POI. Voilà: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Good_practice +1 - -- Dirk-Lüder Deelkar Kreie Bremen - 53.0952°N 8.8652°E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxWQYFUbODdpRVDwRAi1DAJ9c2BFM4uQqfXubsvnptR4GA7ukVACgnsuI tcEb1Hy6msuQ5bXQF120tcU= =sHUJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: There are few quirks currently with Potlatch. I hope somebody could fix these :D Some good suggestions, thanks! 1. The auto complete is great but its behaviour is a bit non-standard. Currently only enter chooses the currently highlighted item and jumps to the next box. Usually tab does this too, and it must be dozens of times I've hit tab and then had to return to complete the tag name. Ha, I'm never sure what to do with this one. Tab is standard for people who are used to *nix shells. On Windows and OS X, IME, tab jumps from field to field. Enter/Return selects from an auto-complete menu (e.g. Safari, Excel). (The behaviour of tab in auto-complete apps is inconsistent, on OS X at least.) Potlatch is following Windows/OS X behaviour rather than *nix shell behaviour. It's important that there's a keypress for move to next field without auto-complete, so that you can type high=very as well as highway=primary. (I will for the moment ignore those who feel there should be RULES to PREVENT non-standard tags being USED.) As to whether this is Tab or Enter, I'm not greatly fussed, but it seems more logical to me that Enter should stick with its general sense of accept choice. I wouldn't mind if you reverse them. I'm also used to jump from field to field using tab and it bites me as well quite often that I use tab when I mean enter. Polyglot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lester Caine wrote: | Mark Williams wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Lester Caine wrote: | J.D. Schmidt wrote: | Lester Caine skrev: | [big snip] | | LOGICALLY - there should never have been a problem created. A POI element | should consist of a single entity which may have additional area information. | Even those tags that are currently only defined as 'node' in many cases WILL | be expanded to include area information at some point. So PLEASE can we have | some sensible method of identifying PAIRS of tags so we can THEN decide what | to do with them !!! | | Is this not a job for relations? If the pair were related, then we have | no problem? | | Correct - but how do you identify elements uniquely so you can create the | relation? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but to try to bring this back onto topic, if you mean How do we find amenity=parking nodes that are duplicates of areas? the answer is that we find all the nodes inside areas. If there are any that are just outside, we will miss them, whici is annoying, but not the end of the world. In order to find them, we can use a Simple postGIS query as suggested by Dave Stubbs (which I have attempted to reformat a bit): select p.osm_id ~ from planet_osm_point as p, ~ planet_osm_polygon as a where a.osm_id!=p.osm_id ~ and a.osm_id in ( ~select a.osm_id from planet_osm_point as p, planet_osm_polygon as a ~where a.amenity='parking' ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way, p.way) ~group by a.osm_id ~having count(p.osm_id) 1 ~ ) ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way,p.way); This will only work for the specific case where there is a single matching node that goes with the area, and I believe it will be time intensive when processing a large area. I don't believe there is any mechanism to create a.osm_id = p.osm_id - these will always have different id's? If they HAD matching id's them there would not be a problem. See proposed good practice ideas for fast consistent solution. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: [autocomplete] Tab works in JOSM and Excel. I'll take your word for it on JOSM, I don't use it - though people got cross enough when JOSM borrowed modeless operation from Potlatch that I'm a bit wary of UI cross-fertilisation. ;) Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from the menu first: if you just press Tab it doesn't autocomplete on the first entry. Effectively, in Excel, the cursor keys do the autocomplete (as they do in Potlatch). The difference is that Potlatch _also_ autocompletes on Enter. To echo Excel's behaviour in Potlatch, this would have to be removed, therefore requiring an extra keypress to autocomplete the default entry - a retrograde step IMO. [...] Excel under Windows suggests values as selected text as you type, it auto-completes when you move out of the cell, i.e. by using any of the 3 noted keys. However, it does not show a list of options to select from, it only suggests auto-completion when you have typed enough for there to be only one auto-complete option. (Not that this would be good behaviour in potlatch) -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lester Caine wrote: | Mark Williams wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Lester Caine wrote: | J.D. Schmidt wrote: | Lester Caine skrev: | [big snip] | | LOGICALLY - there should never have been a problem created. A POI element | should consist of a single entity which may have additional area information. | Even those tags that are currently only defined as 'node' in many cases WILL | be expanded to include area information at some point. So PLEASE can we have | some sensible method of identifying PAIRS of tags so we can THEN decide what | to do with them !!! | | Is this not a job for relations? If the pair were related, then we have | no problem? | | Correct - but how do you identify elements uniquely so you can create the | relation? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but to try to bring this back onto topic, if you mean How do we find amenity=parking nodes that are duplicates of areas? the answer is that we find all the nodes inside areas. If there are any that are just outside, we will miss them, whici is annoying, but not the end of the world. In order to find them, we can use a Simple postGIS query as suggested by Dave Stubbs (which I have attempted to reformat a bit): select p.osm_id ~ from planet_osm_point as p, ~ planet_osm_polygon as a where a.osm_id!=p.osm_id ~ and a.osm_id in ( ~select a.osm_id from planet_osm_point as p, planet_osm_polygon as a ~where a.amenity='parking' ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way, p.way) ~group by a.osm_id ~having count(p.osm_id) 1 ~ ) ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way,p.way); This will only work for the specific case where there is a single matching node that goes with the area, and I believe it will be time intensive when processing a large area. I don't believe there is any mechanism to create a.osm_id = p.osm_id - these will always have different id's? If they HAD matching id's them there would not be a problem. Oh, and it takes about 30 seconds for the entire imported planet. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lester Caine wrote: | Mark Williams wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Lester Caine wrote: | J.D. Schmidt wrote: | Lester Caine skrev: | [big snip] | | LOGICALLY - there should never have been a problem created. A POI element | should consist of a single entity which may have additional area information. | Even those tags that are currently only defined as 'node' in many cases WILL | be expanded to include area information at some point. So PLEASE can we have | some sensible method of identifying PAIRS of tags so we can THEN decide what | to do with them !!! | | Is this not a job for relations? If the pair were related, then we have | no problem? | | Correct - but how do you identify elements uniquely so you can create the | relation? I'm not quite sure what you mean, but to try to bring this back onto topic, if you mean How do we find amenity=parking nodes that are duplicates of areas? the answer is that we find all the nodes inside areas. If there are any that are just outside, we will miss them, whici is annoying, but not the end of the world. In order to find them, we can use a Simple postGIS query as suggested by Dave Stubbs (which I have attempted to reformat a bit): select p.osm_id ~ from planet_osm_point as p, ~ planet_osm_polygon as a where a.osm_id!=p.osm_id ~ and a.osm_id in ( ~select a.osm_id from planet_osm_point as p, planet_osm_polygon as a ~where a.amenity='parking' ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way, p.way) ~group by a.osm_id ~having count(p.osm_id) 1 ~ ) ~ and p.amenity='parking' ~ and a.way p.way ~ and intersects(a.way,p.way); This will only work for the specific case where there is a single matching node that goes with the area, and I believe it will be time intensive when processing a large area. I don't believe there is any mechanism to create a.osm_id = p.osm_id - these will always have different id's? If they HAD matching id's them there would not be a problem. You're failing to understand the database contents. This query is designed to act on the data output from osm2pgsql. osm2pgsql automatically inserts a node into the database for every parking area (and doesn't check to see if there is one already) with the osm_id of the parking area way. So what this query does is find all the parking areas with more than 1 node (ie: it has non-autogenerated ones), then extracts the nodes which are in those areas and aren't the autogenerated ones (osm_id's are different). Obviously it fails in the unlikely event that a node does actually have the same ID as the area it's contained in but I really don't care about that case. So the query does work. And matches in excess of 5000 nodes. Dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Planned Server Maintenance - 28/02/08 13:30-15:00
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ray Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarding to talk. Because Grant never thought of sending it there Oh wait, he did send it there, didn't he... Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Mapping Effort: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Hello, This is just a note to let any interested parties in a new mapping effort that is being organized by me. There is a lack of data for the York Region area of southern Ontario. I figured we could start in Aurora, since is where I live. I have details outlined at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Aurora Anyone who can help contribute should contact me. Thanks! Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Planned Server Maintenance - 28/02/08 13:30-15:00
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ray Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarding to talk. Because Grant never thought of sending it there Oh wait, he did send it there, didn't he... Tom Ummm, didn't get it in talk so I thought I would forward out of interest to the talk list? Not had your coffee today yet? ;) -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Ray Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Trouble in Rangoon [x-post]
Dirk, That tile has had data changed on 2008-02-25 (the changedTiles requester caught it) this was quite possibly a delete. the damage had been done by then - the activity was possibly me making a couple of minor alterations in the hope of getting potlatch to show stuff that wasn't being shown on mapnik/osmarenderer. The osmarender layer is rendered directly from api output, so basically reflects the current state of affairs, if no rendering problems arise. the better you can narrow in the area, and maybe more importantly the time of the deletion there is a way. If the area is not too big you can use potlatch's undelete (zoom to area, press U) to resurrect ways one-by-one. The area is pretty obvious when you view the location. http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.796lon=96.1546zoom=13layers=B0FT ... what should be a fairly complex city, is an empty space covering several square kilometers. As I remember, there were many hundreds of ways, so undeleting would be an impractical and haphazard approach, even if I could get it to work (which I can't!). I don't know what is supposed to happen when pressing 'U'. Potlatch seems to start fetching data from OSM but nothing ever displays for me. The time of 'disappearance' is less certain. I am sure it's in the last month, probably the last fortnight, but closer than that, I can't say. I certainly hope there is a way of retrieving this lost data - makes me nervous about investing substantial time and effort into creating ways that can be 'blown away' like this. Andrew Harris 37.7638°S 144.9411°E___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapping Effort: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Is there a need for a canadian mailing list? On 27 Feb 2008, at 19:21, Blake Crosby wrote: Hello, This is just a note to let any interested parties in a new mapping effort that is being organized by me. There is a lack of data for the York Region area of southern Ontario. I figured we could start in Aurora, since is where I live. I have details outlined at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Aurora Anyone who can help contribute should contact me. Thanks! Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
On 27 Feb 2008, at 10:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Lauri Hahne wrote: [autocomplete] Tab works in JOSM and Excel. I'll take your word for it on JOSM, I don't use it - though people got cross enough when JOSM borrowed modeless operation from Potlatch that I'm a bit wary of UI cross-fertilisation. ;) Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from What, you don't use Numbers? the menu first: if you just press Tab it doesn't autocomplete on the first entry. Effectively, in Excel, the cursor keys do the autocomplete (as they do in Potlatch). The difference is that Potlatch _also_ autocompletes on Enter. To echo Excel's behaviour in Potlatch, this would have to be removed, therefore requiring an extra keypress to autocomplete the default entry - a retrograde step IMO. [...] I don't know what server JOSM uses for its Landsat though it probably is in UTM. I believe the JOSM plugin talks to a WMS server. I don't have any plans to add WMS client capability to Potlatch - it's an old technology on its way out and there's things I'd rather spend my time on. Of course, that doesn't stop anyone else doing so. What about the other ideas? All sensible, didn't feel they needed debating. :) cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapping Effort: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
SteveC wrote: Is there a need for a canadian mailing list? On 27 Feb 2008, at 19:21, Blake Crosby wrote: Hello, This is just a note to let any interested parties in a new mapping effort that is being organized by me. There is a lack of data for the York Region area of southern Ontario. I figured we could start in Aurora, since is where I live. I have details outlined at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Aurora Anyone who can help contribute should contact me. Thanks! Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk It may be an idea, theres a couple dozen Canadian users that I know of, though most are fairly inactive. It would be nice to try to get a bit more interaction between everyone since Canada has relatively sparse coverage beyond the main highways and a couple larger cities. I'm starting some initial work on some mapping parties this spring/summer as well as an initial starting point towards some more interaction. -Jason Reid ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapping Effort: Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Anyone want to volunteer to maintain it? Tom would you mind doing the honours when someone volunteers? On 27 Feb 2008, at 23:01, Blake Crosby wrote: Steve, I think so. --Original Message-- From: SteveC To: Blake Crosby Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Feb 27, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapping Effort: Aurora, Ontario, Canada Is there a need for a canadian mailing list? On 27 Feb 2008, at 19:21, Blake Crosby wrote: Hello, This is just a note to let any interested parties in a new mapping effort that is being organized by me. There is a lack of data for the York Region area of southern Ontario. I figured we could start in Aurora, since is where I live. I have details outlined at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Aurora Anyone who can help contribute should contact me. Thanks! Blake ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] have fun, SteveC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.asklater.com/steve/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for Potlatch
SteveC wrote: On 27 Feb 2008, at 10:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Excel's not the same. Excel doesn't autocomplete at all (at least on the OS X 2001 version) unless you press the cursor keys to select from What, you don't use Numbers? Only just got iWork '08 and started playing. Pages is _lovely_. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New in JOSM: Paste Tags
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:22:36 + David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/02/2008 14:02, David Earl wrote: On 26/02/2008 09:43, Martijn Verwijmeren wrote: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:41:20 + David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have added a new operation on the JOSM Edit menu: Paste Tags (CTRL+SHIFT+V). This will be in tomorrow's build. I had some trouble with this new operation. See: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/631 Sorry about that. I'll investigate. OK, I've fixed it. I'm afraid I was thinking how something works in PHP rather than Java, and it wasn't quite equivalent. Unfortunately it wasn't a consequence of actually doing the Paste Tags itself: it would happen whenever the selection changes in certain ways. However, it would only happen if you have previously used Edit Copy, so it isn't a total show stopper. Nevertheless it is serious crash which this might justify Frederick starting a build manually. David Thank you, It works fine now m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[Talk-de] Mappen von Bächen (war: Re: Pa rkplätze)
Hi! Hanno Böck schrieb: Am Dienstag 26 Februar 2008 schrieb Christoph Eckert: Murrhardt sieht ja echt nett aus. Die Murr und den Trauzenbach müsste man allerdings nochmal ein schwimmfähiges GPS 'runterschwimmen lassen :) . Wir haben wasserfeste mapper, die das by foot machen sobald das wetter schöner wird :-) Habe mir das ja auch schon überlegt, insbesondere, nachdem ich gestern einen kleinen Bach ziemlich umständlich durch diverse Wohnanlagen verfolgt habe, an jeder Ecke wieder das Wasser gesucht und dabei wohl einige Verkehrs- und Zugangsregeln gebrochen habe. Aber: darf/will man das denn? Ich meine, das könnte ja für die Vegetation/Fische/sonstwas nicht so ideal sein, wenn da mehrere Leute mit Gummistiefeln durchlaufen und alles zertreten, oder? -- Gernot ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Reminder: OSM Treffen in Fürth am D onnerstag (übermorgen) um 19 Uhr!
Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 28.08.2008 ^^ s/8/2/ nehm ich mal an :) Sven -- linux is evolution, not intelligent design (Linus Torvalds) /me is [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Navit
2008/2/26, Christopher Dyrlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ich habs bis jetzt nur mal mit nen Ausschnit der Täglichen planet.osm von Frederick probiert, was ich aber sagen muss ist, das er Manuell Routen tut. Also wenn ich ihn sage wo Start und wo Ziel ist, allerdings verweigert navit generell die Benutzung von Autobahnen, genau wie pyroute... Und das fand ich schon etwas heftig, wenn man 20km über normale Straßen fahren soll, wenn direkt neben an, ne Autobahn auf und Abfahrt ist :D Bei navit _oder_ pyroute(weiß nicht mehr, welches) hatte ich das Problem auch schon - die Lösung war, motorway_link in der .osm zu motorway zu ändern. Motorway_link wurde schlicht nicht berücksichtigt... ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Reminder: OSM Treffen in Fürth am Donn erstag (übermorgen) um 19 Uhr!
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:25:44 + (UTC) Sven Geggus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 28.08.2008 ^^ s/8/2/ nehm ich mal an :) Sven Dann wird's der 22. ;-) Christian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Parkplätze
BroadwayLamb: Christoph Eckert schrieb: Also ich hab jetzt schon 2 stellen, wo mich folgendes stört: Ein Parkplatz, in der mitte ein gebäude, in der regel ein supermarkt (nicht gerade selten, unser penny und unser rewe in murrhardt sind so). osmarender macht hier jetzt das P auf das Gebäude, auch wenn daneben genug platz wäre. osmerender setzt das Icon gna-den-los in die Mitte der BoundingBox. Mehr Intelligenz gibt es gerade nicht. Nicht nur das... Ich habe mal angefangen, einige meiner Parkplätze umzubauen. Die Beschriftung wird jetzt nicht mehr etwas versetzt über dem P, sondern mitten drauf gesetzt. Das kann's ja wohl nicht sein! Ich verstehe die Empörung über die vom Renderer falsch gesetzten Parkplatzsymbole aber aus Entwicklersicht muss die Antwort auf dieses Problem doch nicht heissen Wir mappen wieder Nodes, damit es in einem bestimmten Renderer gut aussieht, sondern vielmehr Lasst uns den Plazierungsalgorithmus so optimieren, dass das P-Symbol samt Beschriftung richtig gesetzt wird. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Reminder: OSM Treffen in Fürth am Do nnerstag (übermorgen) um 19 Uhr!
Christian Koerner schrieb: On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:25:44 + (UTC) Sven Geggus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ulf Lamping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 28.08.2008 ^^ s/8/2/ nehm ich mal an :) Sven Dann wird's der 22. ;-) Und jetzt im ganzen Satz: Donnerstag 28.02.2008 um 19 Uhr ;-) Gruß ULFL ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Darstellung von GPS-Tracks mitOpenStreetMap und RouteConverter
Hallo,
dieses Thema hatte schon einmal am 20.02. gepostet.
Eine Antwort habe ich bisher leider noch nicht erhalten. Vielleicht habe
ich auch die falsche Mailingliste angesprochen oder die
Problemdarstellung ist nicht verständlich.
Hier also nochmals das Problem
Zur Konvertierung der GPS-Tracks (bei mir Gopal trk-Dateien des PNA
4410)) in gpx-Format benutze ich den RouteConverter www.routeconverter.de.
Mit diesem Programm kann der Verlauf der Tracks mittels GoogleMaps
dargestellt werden (siehe Screenshot auf www.routeconverter.de).
Ich habe den Entwickler des RouteConverter gebeten, einmal zu prüfen, ob
sich nicht OpenStreetMaps statt GoogleMaps einbinden lässt.
So könnte man gleich bei der Konvertierung der GPS-Tracks sehen, was in
OpenStreetMaps schon realisiert is (ja, ich weis schon, dass das auch
mit JOSM geht).
Vielleicht gibt es schon einen ähnlichen Weg bei OpenStreetMap oder
einen ganz anderen, so dass man es statt GoogleMaps in das Programm
einbinden kann
Der Entwickler vom RouteConverter hat mir die nachfolgende Information
zur Verfügung gestellt:
Was vorhanden ist, ist ein in RouteConverter
eingebetteter Internet Explorer, dem man
a) HTML-Dateien vorsetzen kann
b) JavaScript übergeben kann, was er dann ausführt
Für Google Maps übergebe ich dem Internet Explorer zunächste eine statische
HTML-Datei, die die Google Maps Java-Script Bibliothek lädt, etwas HTML und
etwas JavaScript enthält:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
xmlns:v=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml
head
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
script src=http://maps.google.com/maps?file=apiamp;v=2amp;key=X;
type=text/javascript/script
style type=text/css
.nomargin { margin: 0; padding: 0 }
/style
/head
body onunload=unload() class=nomargin
ondragstart=return false onselectstart=return false
ondragenter=return false ondragover=return false
ondrop=return false
div id=map/div
script type=text/javascript
!--
//![CDATA[
function isLoaded() {
return window.GBrowserIsCompatible;
}
function isCompatible() {
return isLoaded() GBrowserIsCompatible();
}
function unload() {
if (isLoaded())
GUnload();
}
function resize(x, y) {
var div = document.getElementById(map);
div.style.width = x + px;
div.style.height = y + px;
}
if (isLoaded()) {
if (GBrowserIsCompatible()) {
var map = new GMap2(document.getElementById(map));
map.addControl(new GLargeMapControl());
map.addControl(new GMapTypeControl());
map.setCenter(new GLatLng(35.0, -30.0), 2);
map.enableScrollWheelZoom();
} else {
setError(pSorry, Google Maps is not
compatible/ppwith this browser./p);
}
}
//]]
//--
/script
/body
/html
Das initialisiert die Karte und nachher erzeuge ich in RouteConverter
JavaScript, das wiederum die Google Maps-Bibliothek über das GMap2-Objekt
benutzt.
--
Hoffe, es kann geholfen werden.
MfG
Dieter Jasper
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Re: [Talk-de] Suezkanal in Mannheim
Nun, die Weinheimer, etwas östlich davon haben schließlich auch einen Suezkanalweg, vermutlich besteht da eien Zusammenhang. Stephan. Direkt nordwestlich des Mannheimer Hauptbahnhofes ist ein Tunnel, der im Mapnik als Suezkanal erscheint!? Google mit Suezkanal und Mannheim ergibt u.a.: http://www.stadtarchiv.mannheim.de/strassen/index.php?table_name=Stra%DFenfunction=detailswhere_field=IDwhere_value=156 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Kiesgruben
Hallo! Wie tragt ihr Kiesgruben (Baggerlöcher) ein? Ich meine solche, bei denen noch Nassauskiesung betrieben wird: also einen See mit großen Baggern, Förderbändern und Halden drumherum. Hier im Rheinland gibt es davon recht viele - ich habe sie jetzt meißt einfach als landuse=industrial eingetragen. landuse=quarry scheint mir irgendwie nicht zu passen, obwohl die Industrie drumherum natürlich ähnlich ist. Sollte man da ein Proposol landuse=gravel_pit angehen? Gruß, Stefan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Suezkanal in Mannheim
Zitat von Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Direkt nordwestlich des Mannheimer Hauptbahnhofes ist ein Tunnel, der im Mapnik als Suezkanal erscheint!? Google mit Suezkanal und Mannheim ergibt u.a.: http://www.stadtarchiv.mannheim.de/strassen/index.php?table_name=Stra%DFenfunction=detailswhere_field=IDwhere_value=1566 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Suezkanal in Mannheim
Direkt nordwestlich des Mannheimer Hauptbahnhofes ist ein Tunnel, der im Mapnik als Suezkanal erscheint!? Jochen -- Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Suezkanal in Mannheim
Der heißt wirklich so - zumindest im Volksmund. Wahrscheinlich wirst Du kaum einen Mannheimer finden, der weiß wovon du redest wenn Du ihm von der Tunnelstraße erzählst. Peter Jochen Topf schrieb: Direkt nordwestlich des Mannheimer Hauptbahnhofes ist ein Tunnel, der im Mapnik als Suezkanal erscheint!? Jochen ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Suezkanal in Mannheim
Am Mittwoch 27 Februar 2008 schrieb Peter: Der heißt wirklich so - zumindest im Volksmund. Wahrscheinlich wirst Du kaum einen Mannheimer finden, der weiß wovon du redest wenn Du ihm von der Tunnelstraße erzählst. Das ist dann ein Fall für loc_name oder reg_name (den unterschied müsste mir mal jemand erklären). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/De%3AMap_Features#Namen -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber/Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Darstellung von GPS-Tracks mitOpenStreetMap und RouteConverter
Hallo Dieter, ich habe den RouteConverter erst kürzlich durch den Artikel in der c't entdeckt und mir dieselbe Frage gestellt. Durch Deinen Hinweis mit dem eingebetteten html ist das recht einfach, zumindest mit der .jar Version (keine Ahnung ob das so ähnlich mit der .exe geht): 1.) RouteConverter.jar in RouteConverter.zip umbenennen. 2.) Im .zip Archiv die Datei routeconverter.html durch die version im Anhang dieser e-mail ersetzen. Achtung: auf den korrekten Pfad achten! 3.) RouteConverter.zip wieder in RouteConverter.jar umbenennen. Du kannst die Datei gerne an den Autor vom RouteConverter weiterleiten. Viel Spass damit, Helmut - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Mapping Beginner
Hallo, ich bin neu dabei und habe angefangen in meiner Region (Idar-Oberstein) zu Mappen. Aller Anfang ist Schwer. Nach einer Woche Arbeit möchte ich euch Fragen, ob das was ich gemacht habe Hand und Fuß hat. Nicht, dass ich falsch weiter mache. Ich bitte euch also, mir Resonanz und den einen oder anderen Tipp zu geben. Die B41 und die Bahnstrecke waren schon da, musste ich jedoch stark anpassen (Brücken, Tunnel, 4 Spurige Nahehochstraße, usw.). Die Straßen habe ich mit Hilfe von GPS Punkten, die ich hochgeladen habe, eingezeichnet. Den Fluss „Nahe“ habe ich mit Hilfe von Landsat eingefügt. Es ist auch sehr viel regionales Wissen dabei. Bounding Box (In JOSM laden): http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=49.71512859474089mlon=7.3668067521026375zoom=11 Noch eine Frage: Wie kann ich in JOSM in einer Strecke Punkte hinzufügen, um zum Beispiel eine Rundung schöner zu machen? Der Befehl mit dem Shortcut „J“ Funktioniert irgendwie nicht. PS: Eine Besonderheit ist die Nahe-Überbauung (Nahehochstraße) in Idar-Oberstein – Eine Brücke längs des Flusses :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] EOF beim uploaden von tilesAtHome
Ich hab hier ein kleines Problem, ich lasse ja gerne und oft tilesAtHome laufen, aber ich bekommen in letzter Zeit manchmal beim uploaden einen EOF error. Danach gehts aber weiter mit dem nächsten Task. Ist das normal oder geht es jemandem genauso wie mir ? Hier mal ein Ausschnitt aus dem Log, ich habe versucht es so übersichtlich wie möglich zu halten, leider hat es rechts immer etwas abgeschnitten. [#145 100% maplint] Finished 1206,1502 for layer maplint [#145 100% captionless] Finished 1206,1502 for layer captionless [#146 0% jobinit] Doing tileset 2074,1409 (zoom 12) (area around 48.835789,2.329102) [#146 0% Preproc] Downloading: Map data for default,maplint,captionless to /t [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204012319_16697_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204012319_16697_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 9 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013046_19756_1_maplint_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013046_19756_1_maplint_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 8 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013650_23455_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013650_23455_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 7 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013817_24697_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013817_24697_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 6 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013817_24697_1_maplint_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204013817_24697_1_maplint_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 5 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014072_26209_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014072_26209_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 4 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014309_27148_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014309_27148_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 3 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014588_28248_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014588_28248_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#145 0% upload1] 2 zip files left to upload... [#145 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014588_28248_1_maplint_tiles [#145 10% upload1] uploaded 1204014588_28248_1_maplint_tileset.zip, sleeping f [#145 10% upload1] 1 zip files left to upload... [#145 10% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204014588_28248_2_captionless_t [#145 20% upload1] uploaded 1204014588_28248_2_captionless_tileset.zip, sleepi [#145 20% upload1] 0 zip files left to upload... [...] [#155 100% captionless] Finished 2198,980 for layer captionless [#155 0% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204018336_31969_0_tile_tileset.[#156 0% jobinit] Doing tileset 2599,1654 (zoom 12) (area around 32.657868,48.471680) [#156 0% Preproc] Downloading: Map data for default,maplint,captionless to /t [#156 0% Preproc] Checking for UTF-8 errors in /tmp/data-28531.osm... [#155 17% upload1] uploaded 1204018336_31969_0_tile_tileset.zip, sleeping for [#155 17% upload1] 5 zip files left to upload... [#155 17% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204018454_32565_0_tile_tileset. [#155 33% upload1] uploaded 1204018454_32565_0_tile_tileset.zip, sleeping for [#155 33% upload1] 4 zip files left to upload... [#155 33% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204018711_1966_0_tile_tileset.z [#155 50% upload1] uploaded 1204018711_1966_0_tile_tileset.zip, sleeping for 4 [#155 50% upload1] 3 zip files left to upload... [#155 50% upload1] Uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204018850_2823_0_tile_tileset.zip... ERROR Error uploading /tmp//uploadable/1204018850_2823_0_tile_tileset.zip to http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Upload/tile2.php: 500 EOF [#155 50% upload1] 2 zip files left to upload... [#155 50% upload1] Uploading
Re: [Talk-de] Mapping Beginner
Hallo Timo, schön, dass sich wieder jemand neues beteiligt, herzlich willkommen ! Dein Mapping sieht schon sehr vielversprechend aus, das einzige was mir jetzt aufgefallen ist, ist dass du viele einzelne Segmente als einzelne Ways erstellt hast mit unterschiedlichen Attributen. Du solltest vor allem bei deinen LEVEL Attributen eine einheitlichere Lösung suchen, da ich sehe, dass die Bahn Level=1 hat und ein paar hundert Meter weider Level=-1 . Natürlich kann es auch nicht anders möglich sein, ich kenne deine architekturellen Begebenheiten nicht, aber sie sehen sehr interessant aus ;) Andere Mapper können dir bestimmt noch andere Tipps geben ! Zu deiner Frage: mehr Punkte kannst du einfügen, in dem du nichts auswählst (alles unselektierst: Shortcut U), dann das dritte Tool von oben aufrufst (Shortcut A) und dann an die entsprechende Stelle klickst, wo du eine Node setzen willst. Danach wieder U und erneut klicken für eine weitere Node Immer das U dazwischen nicht vergessen, sonst wird es gleich ein neues Segment, da die zwei Nodes verbunden werden ! Hoffe ich konnte dir helfen, Viel Spaß bei Openstreetmap ! MfG Sebastian Timo Schmitt schrieb: Hallo, ich bin neu dabei und habe angefangen in meiner Region (Idar-Oberstein) zu Mappen. Aller Anfang ist Schwer. Nach einer Woche Arbeit möchte ich euch Fragen, ob das was ich gemacht habe Hand und Fuß hat. Nicht, dass ich falsch weiter mache. Ich bitte euch also, mir Resonanz und den einen oder anderen Tipp zu geben. Die B41 und die Bahnstrecke waren schon da, musste ich jedoch stark anpassen (Brücken, Tunnel, 4 Spurige Nahehochstraße, usw.). Die Straßen habe ich mit Hilfe von GPS Punkten, die ich hochgeladen habe, eingezeichnet. Den Fluss „Nahe“ habe ich mit Hilfe von Landsat eingefügt. Es ist auch sehr viel regionales Wissen dabei. Bounding Box (In JOSM laden): http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=49.71512859474089mlon=7.3668067521026375zoom=11 Noch eine Frage: Wie kann ich in JOSM in einer Strecke Punkte hinzufügen, um zum Beispiel eine Rundung schöner zu machen? Der Befehl mit dem Shortcut „J“ Funktioniert irgendwie nicht. PS: Eine Besonderheit ist die Nahe-Überbauung (Nahehochstraße) in Idar-Oberstein – Eine Brücke längs des Flusses :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mapping Beginner
Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 23:32 schrieb Sebastian Gebhard: Hallo Timo, schön, dass sich wieder jemand neues beteiligt, herzlich willkommen ! Dein Mapping sieht schon sehr vielversprechend aus, das einzige was mir jetzt aufgefallen ist, ist dass du viele einzelne Segmente als einzelne Ways erstellt hast mit unterschiedlichen Attributen. Du solltest vor allem bei deinen LEVEL Attributen eine einheitlichere Lösung suchen, da ich sehe, dass die Bahn Level=1 hat und ein paar hundert Meter weider Level=-1 . Natürlich kann es auch nicht anders möglich sein, ich kenne deine architekturellen Begebenheiten nicht, aber sie sehen sehr interessant aus ;) Andere Mapper können dir bestimmt noch andere Tipps geben ! Zu deiner Frage: mehr Punkte kannst du einfügen, in dem du nichts auswählst (alles unselektierst: Shortcut U), dann das dritte Tool von oben aufrufst (Shortcut A) und dann an die entsprechende Stelle klickst, wo du eine Node setzen willst. Danach wieder U und erneut klicken für eine weitere Node Immer das U dazwischen nicht vergessen, sonst wird es gleich ein neues Segment, da die zwei Nodes verbunden werden ! ... oder einfach beim Einfügen SHIFT drücken (in der Status-Leiste am unteren Fensterrand sind noch mehr solche Tastenkombinationen beschrieben, abhängig vom aktuellen Modus). Hoffe ich konnte dir helfen, Viel Spaß bei Openstreetmap ! MfG Sebastian Grüße, Marc pgpvFvasJZFbq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Reminder: OSM Treffen in Fürth am Donnerstag (übermorgen) um 19 Uhr!
Und wo ist der OSM-Link dazu? ;-) Denke ich werde auch vorbeischauen nach der Messe - hoffe es gibt was zu Essen ausser Kaffee und Kuchen... Garry ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mapping Beginner
Hi, Danach wieder U und erneut klicken für eine weitere Node Immer das U dazwischen nicht vergessen, sonst wird es gleich ein neues Segment, da die zwei Nodes verbunden werden ! man kann auch einfach Shift gedrückt halten, das ist noch etwas streßfreier. Gruß, ce ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] EOF beim uploaden von tilesAtHome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Gebhard schrieb: Ich hab hier ein kleines Problem, ich lasse ja gerne und oft tilesAtHome laufen, aber ich bekommen in letzter Zeit manchmal beim uploaden einen EOF error. Danach gehts aber weiter mit dem nächsten Task. Ist das normal oder geht es jemandem genauso wie mir ? Hier mal ein Ausschnitt aus dem Log, ich habe versucht es so übersichtlich wie möglich zu halten, leider hat es rechts immer etwas abgeschnitten. Bitte mal überprüfen ob das Dateigrößenabhängig ist. Der Fehler 500 deutet meist auf einen (Unsichtbaren Zwangs-)Proxy hin, der POST Requests nach einer gewissen Länge abschneidet. Falls Du einen Einfluss auf die Proxykonfiguration hast, POST Requests sollten für [EMAIL PROTECTED] mindestens 25MB groß werden dürfen. - -- Dirk-Lüder Deelkar Kreie Bremen - 53.0952°N 8.8652°E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHxeelFUbODdpRVDwRAjwHAJ93IrFnx9il+blEi0Ebc35bL4wLlwCfQDxc 82AOj6aOG89Rl/mfmXUEpm0= =FAVo -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Parallele ways
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Bevor ich anfange, Subroutinen Klassen und Befehle Methoden zu nennen, gebe ich mir... äh... nehme ich lieber die Kugel. Programmiersprachen-Chauvinismus ist in diesem Projekt fehl am Platz. Leute, denen Java nicht behagt, koennen auch in MUMPS an Osmxapi mitarbeiten ;-) Schon komisch, das diese Sprache ausgerechnet dem Gesundheitswesen entspringt. Ob sich die Urheber wohl der deutschen Bedeutung des Wortes bewusst waren... Vielen Dank für die Flyer! Sind heute gekommen und machen ja wirklich einiges her. Ausgezeichnet! Grüße, Sven ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] EOF beim uploaden von tilesAtHome
Dirk-Lüder Kreie schrieb: Sebastian Gebhard schrieb: Ich hab hier ein kleines Problem, ich lasse ja gerne und oft tilesAtHome laufen, aber ich bekommen in letzter Zeit manchmal beim uploaden einen EOF error. Danach gehts aber weiter mit dem nächsten Task. Ist das normal oder geht es jemandem genauso wie mir ? Hier mal ein Ausschnitt aus dem Log, ich habe versucht es so übersichtlich wie möglich zu halten, leider hat es rechts immer etwas abgeschnitten. Bitte mal überprüfen ob das Dateigrößenabhängig ist. Der Fehler 500 deutet meist auf einen (Unsichtbaren Zwangs-)Proxy hin, der POST Requests nach einer gewissen Länge abschneidet. Falls Du einen Einfluss auf die Proxykonfiguration hast, POST Requests sollten für [EMAIL PROTECTED] mindestens 25MB groß werden dürfen. Danke für die Antwort, daran kann es aber nicht liegen. Ich habe die Dateigrößen von zwei aktuell gescheiterten Zip-Dateien überprüft. die eine war um die 800Kb, die andere ca. 1,8Mb. Ich verwende auch mit ziemlicher Sicherheit keinen Zwangsproxy, da ich meine ganze Internetkonfiguration selbst gebaut habe. Sollte dennoch ein Zwangsproxy vorhanden sein liegt dieser außerhalb meines Machtbereichs und gibt mir sehr zu denken ! MfG sege ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-cz] renderovani cyklotras
Tak to ja taky pridam svoje experimenty: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~martin/misc/osm/frydlant.png http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~martin/misc/osm/ Celkem trivialni bylo zmenit barvu jednosmerne sipky z bile na cervenou. Druha uprava spociva ve vykreslovani cyklotras, v prototypu zatim jen typu RCN, a to vcetne cisla trasy. SVG vubec neumim, tak jsem to nejak odhadnul a na prvni pokus to ujde. Skript generic-osmarender mi prijde celkem obecny, tak ho doporucuju ozkouset. Budete samozrejme potrebovat adresar osmarender6 ze SVN. Nejvetsi opruz je sehnat si bounding box ve spravnem formatu. Ja na to pouzivam mapy.cz a prepocitam si sedesatkove vyjadreni do desitkoveho... :-/ Martin ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
Nojo, ale proc je takovej problem ten link dat? To je dneska nejaka moda? :) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa Michal Kovar napsal(a): A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
Protoze adresa a parametry v linku se muzou zmenit s vyssi pravdepodobnosti nez adresa v OSM. Navic mi to prijde jako duplikovani informaci, ktere jsou navic na jedne hromade. Ono je na te strance vic uzitecnych veci. A kdyby odkaz prestal fungovat, tak se to uzivatel na strance docte, kdezto v tomhle mailu ne. Jinak tuhle modu vymyslel TBL uz v osmdesatych letech kvuli tomu, aby informace byly pristupne vsem a nemuseli si je uchovavat v hlave nebo v mailu. Priste az budu linej neco hledat v googlu, tak Ti poslu mail, abys mi poslal link na stranku . Asi z toho taky nebudes nadsenej. K Michal Kovar napsal(a): Nojo, ale proc je takovej problem ten link dat? To je dneska nejaka moda? :) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa Michal Kovar napsal(a): A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
...navic jsem tu adresu mel uz na BNHELP a ani jsem o tom nevedel. Trapne, omlouvam se :) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa Michal Kovar napsal(a): A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
Stále je na wiki políčko na hledání, je vlevo pod menu. Pouzite vyrazy : WMS UHUL Vysledek: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=WMS+UHULgo=Go ## Původní zpráva ## Od: Michal Kovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free ## Datum: 27.2.2008 12:22:58 ## ## Zkus se vzit do role nekoho, kdo nezna osm wiki zpameti pozpatku. Mozna ## jsem mimo, ale pro me najit informaci na osm wiki je probirani se tunou ## informaci kterejm ne vzdy rozumim. A to hlavne proto, ze kdyz se chci ## dobrat podstaty veci, tak jen klikam na dalsi a dalsi odkazy. Pokud to ma ## bejt opravdu otevreny, melo by to bejt min for geeks only. Nebo jestli ## je to primarne urceny pro hi-level usery, tak prosim, ale na me to pusobi ## jako uzavrena komunita, ktera vzdycky prska, kdyz se nekdo na neco zepta ## primo a ocekava primou odpoved. Ne, ze bych za ten odkaz nebyl rad. ## ## No offense ## Lhotas ## ## On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:17 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## ## Protoze adresa a parametry v linku se muzou zmenit s vyssi ## pravdepodobnosti nez adresa v OSM. Navic mi to prijde jako duplikovani ## informaci, ktere jsou navic na jedne hromade. Ono je na te strance vic ## uzitecnych veci. A kdyby odkaz prestal fungovat, tak se to uzivatel na ## strance docte, kdezto v tomhle mailu ne. ## ## Jinak tuhle modu vymyslel TBL uz v osmdesatych letech kvuli tomu, aby ## informace byly pristupne vsem a nemuseli si je uchovavat v hlave nebo v ## mailu. ## ## Priste az budu linej neco hledat v googlu, tak Ti poslu mail, abys mi ## poslal link na stranku . Asi z toho taky nebudes nadsenej. ## ## K ## ## Michal Kovar napsal(a): ## Nojo, ale proc je takovej problem ten link dat? To je dneska nejaka ## moda? ## :) ## ## On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## ## ## Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... ## ## ## http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa ## ## Michal Kovar napsal(a): ## ## A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. ## Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. ## Co ## funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. ## ## On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ## ## ## ## Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem ## skoro ## vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. ## Pokud ## mate ## problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci ## EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. ## ## ## *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To ## co ## se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem ## zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). ## Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: ## *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, ## jednotky... ## *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu ## zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, ## plochy). ## ## Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a ## neni ## na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 ## z: ## http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar ## a tu zatim pouzivejte. ## ## PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v ## EPSG:4326 ## ## hanoj ## ## ___ ## Talk-cz mailing list ## Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org ## http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz ## ## __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ ## ## Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. ## http://www.nod32.cz ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ___ ## Talk-cz mailing list ## Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org ## http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz ## ## __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ ## ## Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. ## http://www.nod32.cz ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ___ ## Talk-cz mailing list ## Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org ## http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz ## ## __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ ## ## Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. ## http://www.nod32.cz ## ## ## ## ## ## -- ## Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ## ## ___ ## Talk-cz mailing list ## Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org ## http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz ## ## ## S pozdravem Petr Schonmann Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
Pokud mas napad jak zjednodusit stranky na wiki, radi jej tu uslysime. Pokud bych chtel, aby ses musel prohrabovat celou wiki, pak bych arogantne poslal odkaz na wiki.openstreetmap.org. Ja jsem poslal odkaz, kde jsou i doplnujici informace a odkaz byl mezi nimi. Nevim, co je na tom principu pro geeky. K Michal Kovar napsal(a): Zkus se vzit do role nekoho, kdo nezna osm wiki zpameti pozpatku. Mozna jsem mimo, ale pro me najit informaci na osm wiki je probirani se tunou informaci kterejm ne vzdy rozumim. A to hlavne proto, ze kdyz se chci dobrat podstaty veci, tak jen klikam na dalsi a dalsi odkazy. Pokud to ma bejt opravdu otevreny, melo by to bejt min for geeks only. Nebo jestli je to primarne urceny pro hi-level usery, tak prosim, ale na me to pusobi jako uzavrena komunita, ktera vzdycky prska, kdyz se nekdo na neco zepta primo a ocekava primou odpoved. Ne, ze bych za ten odkaz nebyl rad. No offense Lhotas On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:17 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Protoze adresa a parametry v linku se muzou zmenit s vyssi pravdepodobnosti nez adresa v OSM. Navic mi to prijde jako duplikovani informaci, ktere jsou navic na jedne hromade. Ono je na te strance vic uzitecnych veci. A kdyby odkaz prestal fungovat, tak se to uzivatel na strance docte, kdezto v tomhle mailu ne. Jinak tuhle modu vymyslel TBL uz v osmdesatych letech kvuli tomu, aby informace byly pristupne vsem a nemuseli si je uchovavat v hlave nebo v mailu. Priste az budu linej neco hledat v googlu, tak Ti poslu mail, abys mi poslal link na stranku . Asi z toho taky nebudes nadsenej. K Michal Kovar napsal(a): Nojo, ale proc je takovej problem ten link dat? To je dneska nejaka moda? :) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa Michal Kovar napsal(a): A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Geodis a Ortofoto Free
O to ani tak nejde, jako spis o to, ze ma clovek pomalu strach se zeptat, aby ho nekdo neoznacil pomalu za debila, ze se zeptal. A jak jsem psal - za odkaz jsem rad. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:42:59 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pokud mas napad jak zjednodusit stranky na wiki, radi jej tu uslysime. Pokud bych chtel, aby ses musel prohrabovat celou wiki, pak bych arogantne poslal odkaz na wiki.openstreetmap.org. Ja jsem poslal odkaz, kde jsou i doplnujici informace a odkaz byl mezi nimi. Nevim, co je na tom principu pro geeky. K Michal Kovar napsal(a): Zkus se vzit do role nekoho, kdo nezna osm wiki zpameti pozpatku. Mozna jsem mimo, ale pro me najit informaci na osm wiki je probirani se tunou informaci kterejm ne vzdy rozumim. A to hlavne proto, ze kdyz se chci dobrat podstaty veci, tak jen klikam na dalsi a dalsi odkazy. Pokud to ma bejt opravdu otevreny, melo by to bejt min for geeks only. Nebo jestli je to primarne urceny pro hi-level usery, tak prosim, ale na me to pusobi jako uzavrena komunita, ktera vzdycky prska, kdyz se nekdo na neco zepta primo a ocekava primou odpoved. Ne, ze bych za ten odkaz nebyl rad. No offense Lhotas On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:38:17 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Protoze adresa a parametry v linku se muzou zmenit s vyssi pravdepodobnosti nez adresa v OSM. Navic mi to prijde jako duplikovani informaci, ktere jsou navic na jedne hromade. Ono je na te strance vic uzitecnych veci. A kdyby odkaz prestal fungovat, tak se to uzivatel na strance docte, kdezto v tomhle mailu ne. Jinak tuhle modu vymyslel TBL uz v osmdesatych letech kvuli tomu, aby informace byly pristupne vsem a nemuseli si je uchovavat v hlave nebo v mailu. Priste az budu linej neco hledat v googlu, tak Ti poslu mail, abys mi poslal link na stranku . Asi z toho taky nebudes nadsenej. K Michal Kovar napsal(a): Nojo, ale proc je takovej problem ten link dat? To je dneska nejaka moda? :) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:52:34 +0100, Kubajz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ale no tak - nezabere to ani pul minuty... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Czechia/free_map2osm#WMS_Cenia_-_ortofotomapa Michal Kovar napsal(a): A nejakej link na BNHELP by nebyl, at to nemusime zase hodinu guglit. Jinak od doby, co jsem JOSM nainstaloval jsem pro jistotu neupdatoval. Co funguje, do toho se nema vrtat. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:27:04 +0100, hanoj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mam Windows a JOSM a barevna CENIA mi jede uplne krasne. Uz jsem skoro vsechny svoje GPX trasy porovnal a zanesl do OSM - fakt parada. Pokud mate problem s projekci, mate zrejme jeste z UHULU nastavenou projekci EPSG:4326. Prepnul jsem to na Mercator a je to jak p*del na hrnec. *** vsechna WMS funguji s geodetickym datumem EPSG:4326 (WGS84). To co se nastavuje v JOSM je projekce, kterou jsou jen ruznym zpusobem zobrazenim datumu EPSG:4326 (WGS84). Ta terminologie je v JOSM trochu nestastna, ale zjednodusene: *datum* - popisuje pouzity elipsoid, souradnice, vychozi body, jednotky... *projekce* - popisuje jak data definovana podle geodetickeho datumu zobrazit, (obvykle je volime co maji zkreslovat: delky, uhly, plochy). Nynejsi problem je IMHO zpusoben posledni verzi pluginu WMS 3.0 a neni na platforme zavisly. Stahnete si predposledni verzi WMS pluginu 6788 z: http://gis.templ.net/wmsplugin.jar a tu zatim pouzivejte. PS: neuzivejte server CENIA ale BNHELP. CENIA nema korektni vystup v EPSG:4326 hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-cz __ Informace od NOD32 2904 (20080227) __ Tato zprava byla proverena antivirovym systemem NOD32. http://www.nod32.cz -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
[Talk-GB] Solent area pub meet
Hello everyone, It's been a while since the last Solent area pub meet, so it's about time for another one :-) I'm fairly free in March so can do more or less anytime but would like to initially suggest the evening of Tuesday March 11th, 8pm at the Crown, Highfield, Southampton. Please let me know if you can make it, or if you'd like to come but can't make that day. I'd particularly like to get the Southampton area (plus Eastleigh and Winchester) done too so the pub meet will also cover the possibility of micro mapping events as we go into the long light evenings of April and onwards Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb
